MMA FIGHTERS AND BOXERS GIVE THEIR PREDICTIONS/OPINIONS ON "COUTURE VS TONEY"
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Which MMA fans get furious? I think it's the way you interpret what people are saying. I could easily say "MMA fighters are way better than boxers", get a bunch of responses from boxing fans and say, "Haha, you guys are all getting so mad". It's just a difference of opinions. I don't think anyone [on here] really cares.
It's like saying Kobe Bryant is better than Alex Rodriguez.
And ANYONE beating a guy who is nearing a half-century in age is not a "huge blow" to MMA. Shit, it's not like they're starting the fight on the ground. If he beat a HW contender on the otherhand, that would look pretty bad.
I am of the opinion that this means NOTHING in terms of MMA vs. Boxing given the two fighters. But considering the fight is starting with both men on their feet, Toney has a chance. We all saw what happened to Slyvia when he fought Mercer.
That was a clean shot from Ray Mercer that KO'D Slyvia... whew, he was out cold. That punch wouldn't have hurt as much if they had bigger gloves. Since the gloves are smaller that favors the boxer, that's why Tim got dropped like that. It looks like James Toney and other boxers do have a chance in MMA...... All it takes is one timed well punch and it's over.
I don't agree with the gloves being smaller favoring the boxer. You have to change a lot of the basic fundamentals due to the smaller gloves. On defense especially, but even when throwing punches. Angles are a lot different because of the size of the gloves.
I know you mean though, the shots will do more damage, but I think the person who has been training with the 4oz. gloves for longer is the one with the advantage.
I know you mean though, the shots will do more damage, but I think the person who has been training with the 4oz. gloves for longer is the one with the advantage.
Mercer looked like he was out of shape compared to how he looked when he was boxing. Remember when he whooped on Tommy Morrison? That just proves that boxers do have a chance at beating MMA fighters in the UFC. That punch that Mercer landed was perfectly timed and that was from an experienced boxer.
Read my post.
And boxers punches aren't automatically faster just because he's a boxer. LOL, what kind of dumb ass logic is that.
The point you were trying to make was that boxer's had the advantage with the smaller gloves. I said, I don't think they do because they have to adjust things due to the size of the gloves.
The size of the gloves makes the biggest difference, in this case. Not the weight.
And boxers punches aren't automatically faster just because he's a boxer. LOL, what kind of dumb ass logic is that.
The point you were trying to make was that boxer's had the advantage with the smaller gloves. I said, I don't think they do because they have to adjust things due to the size of the gloves.
The size of the gloves makes the biggest difference, in this case. Not the weight.
Ya I used to post on sherdog and mma(dot)tv (before they changed the layout) back when there were about 3 UFC's a year or so. So there wasn't much to talk about other than Pride and Boxing. The biggest argument was what if a boxer learned to sprawl? I think people have moved on from the MMA vs Boxing concept but all the new guys will always bite.
Basically if Tony KO's Couture standing up, with punches, then we can safely assume he is a better boxer - and we're right back where we've always been. The only way a Tony victory will have any barring on the integrity of MMA is if he effectively uses mixed martial arts; kicks, knees, grappling, etc. to win the fight. Otherwise, we have a once great boxer essentially outboxing a former great mixed martial artist.
