im basing it off fighting not boxing, not mma. purely fighting. if Cotto or Alvarez got into a street fight, it wouldnt be a boxing match, itd be a fight. of course Alvarez and Cotto would default to what they train. assuming dude on the street aint some college wrestler or some drunk mma fighter, Cotto and Alvarez would both be able to keep the fight standing and impose their will. its not a boxing match cus theres no rounds or rules. one licensed boxer involved. thats where im starting. your starting at the word boxing. i dont give a fuck about his power. thats not something i boast and its not something unique he brings to the table within modern boxing. i never said glove size was an advantage for Conor. thats a boxing advantage, regardless of size. i never said he was the fastest guy. but he does have speed and reaction time. thats why he counters. the match is a different pace but its still 1 minute rest break. champion mma fights have 5 rounds, champion boxing has 12. mma 25 minutes, boxing 36. mma rounds 5 minutes. boxing 3. number of mma breaks, 4. 11 breaks for boxing. 1 minute break for everybody. i dont see those types of rules being an issue more than the pace of the rounds, but one fighters gonna dictate that regardless. i dont give a fuck about the Paulie video. all i know is a retired out of shape modern ex champ who had nice ring iq got some black eyes from a guy the boxing community said would never have a chance with even a decent amateur. thats funny. other than that, i take nothing from it. i base my belief about Conor cus of his stance/style. i didnt really see any of that in his video so all i really saw was 2 guys fuckin around.
the southpaw aspect moreso than switching to attack from orthodox. how many southpaws has Canelo (a ko artist) fought professionally? out of those, how many did he ko? how many did he go the distance? how many were close decisions? this is basic boxing theory. stand up fight theory in general, but professionally trained boxing theory since the beginning. there's less left handed people in the world, which then means there's less left handed boxers. which means you dont professionally fight (or train for) too many left handers, thats why its always an aspect up for discussion within upcoming boxing matches. you understand this typa shit already.
Canelo isnt aggressive like Cotto was but he still plays aggressor and leaves him self open to counters. its not like he brings his glove back hella fast to cover whats exposed and he puts a lot into his punches. Conor would be a sitting duck to any professional boxer. look at his stance. thats not a sitting duck to a boxer? any boxer who wouldnt almost immediately attack would be a boxer who doesnt understand what he's lookin at and doesnt want an L. the boxers who immediately attack dont respect and dont think an L or any damage is possible.
power is power. your puttin too much on it. Canelo probably has god givin power by nature. he could probably ko somebody without proper torque. him with proper torque is obviously extra powerful. its not about from mma or mma gloves to boxing. its about power by nature and torqe to boost it. Canelo and Cotto aside, you cant just say boxer A has a more powerful hook then Conor cus of the torque technique. it doesnt guarantee you're going to have more power then Conor, it just guarantees your offering the maximum you can offer.
i never said Conor's wide boxing stance. i never even said Conor has a boxing stance. i said Conor would be fighting a boxing stance, Cotto. Cotto's stance (boxing) allows for certain shots to certain areas. examples? Cotto's shot selection from his career.
i believe Conor's style would be effective, you believe it would be exploited. ok. thats that. who said he was a defensive wizard tho? Floyd aside, name someone on the highest level of boxing who hasnt been hit. non sense. are you going to say "well they got hit by professional boxers"? non sense.
i know its a massive weapon. personally i think its underutilized in mma but its getting there. i didnt mention it cus to have an effective jab you have to understand your distance. from Conor's lead foot to chest position is a different distance than what Canelo and Cotto are used to training for. they have to cover more distance tryna jab Conor who has good reaction time and can hit counter angles boxers dont hit cus his foot position and all the touchbutt shit he does. Nate doesnt have a jab like Canelo and Cotto. look at all 3 from stance to pop. Canelo and Cotto looks way more alike from stance to pop than Nate. thats cus a Nate stance is he puts his lead foot hella forward and slouches over hella. he also has a big ass reach and calculates distance hella good. the only stance/distance/style that ever gave Nate an issue was Conor. Nate been hit way harder, but no style ever gave him more issues. Nate's used to going against professional boxing stances and different types of mma stances. so yeah, their jabs are nothing alike. i didnt mention them for a reason.
its not just about stance. its how you use it. Conor might say he has a karate stance, but he doesnt attack off it like a karate champ. barely any of his actual attacks would be classified as karate. he built himself to be the fighter he thinks is the best, thats all. he likes that stance. im makin as big assumptions as you are. but boxing fans like you are just like older mma fans who hate anything under 155 lbs and hate womens mma. your stuck on what your were brought up with and wont see past it.
