Mayweather To Return May 5th Wants Pacquiao!! STEP UP MANNY!!
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Them videos show exactly what floyd was talking about. When a boxer career begins you usually know its something special about them. There was nothing special about manny at all when he first came out. He wasn't even an average fighter. From that to an elite boxer. There's always the exception but from a boxers stand point there is no exception. From a fan stand point there's always room for the exception.
He's not an American. His early career was fought EXCLUSIVELY in the Philippines, and when he was coming up there, he was pretty highly regarded as someone to watch for the future.
He didn't start making noise here until he beat Ledwaba, which was his first fight on US soil and first fight under Freddie Roach. That's where the transformation begun.
Oh, and I think you have to be at least "average" to beat the shit out of super bantamweight champion with only 1 defeat to his name. So, I think your argument is a little off base.
at the end of the day if u can't take a shot you can't take a shot manny was put down twice by some bus boys lol I don't care who trains you that factor never changes look amir khan is one of the best in the game and the only guy I actually think can figure out floyd but dude has a suspect chin great fighter but if he gets tagged his legs go weak and he's running for his life... now back to manny the juiceman so he gets put down from body shots from nobody's back in the day and as u can see manny was rolling around the mat like he was on fire dude was hurt lol fast forward a few years and he's letting much bigger and stronger guys like cotto & margarito pound away at him? there was times in those fights when pacquiao would let them pound his body while on the ropes come on now... mayweather sr knows what's up manny is coming off that juice that's why his legs are cramping and that's why he looked like shit against marquez I'm sure by the time he gets tested for mayweather he will be 100% clean everyone around him knows its time to cash out, get exposed and retire! lmao...
So being a teenager and fighting at 112 pounds had nothing to do with those losses?
Some very faulty logic man. Obviously pacquiao is nothing like he was waaay back then.
Sergio Martinez was knocked out 10 years ago by Margarito, he was getting knocked around like a rag doll, does that mean he can't take a shot now?
Henry Armstrong was KO'd in his first fight and lost 3 of his first 4 fights, but became one of the greatest fighters of all time. Does that mean he couldn't take a shot?
Fast forward a few years? You mean fast forward over 10 years...
lol so you stop juicing and you get leg cramps? thanks doctor!
This is why I know your boxing IQ is very low. If you don't know by now styles makes fights then you'll never know. The reason Pac looks great against guys who come forward versus counter punchers is obvious. It isn't rocket science, man.
Some very faulty logic man. Obviously pacquiao is nothing like he was waaay back then.
Sergio Martinez was knocked out 10 years ago by Margarito, he was getting knocked around like a rag doll, does that mean he can't take a shot now?
Henry Armstrong was KO'd in his first fight and lost 3 of his first 4 fights, but became one of the greatest fighters of all time. Does that mean he couldn't take a shot?
Fast forward a few years? You mean fast forward over 10 years...
lol so you stop juicing and you get leg cramps? thanks doctor!
This is why I know your boxing IQ is very low. If you don't know by now styles makes fights then you'll never know. The reason Pac looks great against guys who come forward versus counter punchers is obvious. It isn't rocket science, man.
this talk that pacquiao came out of nowhere is simply not true. Did you know at the age of 24 Pacquiao was already a 3 divisions champ, a 2 division lineal champ and a WBC champ at the age of 19?
Pacquaio was already more accomplished than Floyd was at the same age.
Floyd became a WBC champ at the age of 21, became a two division champ at the age of 25 and a three division champ at the age of 27.
Pacquaio was already more accomplished than Floyd was at the same age.
Floyd became a WBC champ at the age of 21, became a two division champ at the age of 25 and a three division champ at the age of 27.
some more examples of guys who were KO'd early in their careers or had bad starts.
Bernard hopkins lost his first pro fight, then about 20 fights later lost to Roy Jones. No one really thought that much of him. Of course he went on to become one of the greatest middleweights of all time.
Jimmy Young went 7-4 at the start of his career. Then ended up beating guys like George Foreman, Ron Lyle and went the distance against Ali.
Archie Moore suffered a first round KO against a little-known fighter midway through his career.
Joe Bugner was knocked out in his first pro fight by a journeyman.
Carlos Monzon lost 3 and drew 3 of his first 20 bouts, then went on an insane winning streak, never losing a notable fight in his career and of course becoming one of, if not the greatest middleweight of all time.
pipino cuevas had a record of 17-6 when he got a shot at the WBA welterwieght belt (everyone thought he would lose, he was handpicked by the champion) he won in an upset, and defended the title 11 times.
Israel Vazquez was TKO'd in his 10th professional fight by an unsung journeyman named Ulises Flores(9-6-0 at the time) who ended his career with a record of 14-12-1.
Wladimir Klitschko bounced back pretty well from his 3 TKO losses to Puritty, Sanders, and Brewster. Even his brother Vitali told him to retire. Hasn't lost since.
Bernard hopkins lost his first pro fight, then about 20 fights later lost to Roy Jones. No one really thought that much of him. Of course he went on to become one of the greatest middleweights of all time.
Jimmy Young went 7-4 at the start of his career. Then ended up beating guys like George Foreman, Ron Lyle and went the distance against Ali.
Archie Moore suffered a first round KO against a little-known fighter midway through his career.
Joe Bugner was knocked out in his first pro fight by a journeyman.
Carlos Monzon lost 3 and drew 3 of his first 20 bouts, then went on an insane winning streak, never losing a notable fight in his career and of course becoming one of, if not the greatest middleweight of all time.
pipino cuevas had a record of 17-6 when he got a shot at the WBA welterwieght belt (everyone thought he would lose, he was handpicked by the champion) he won in an upset, and defended the title 11 times.
Israel Vazquez was TKO'd in his 10th professional fight by an unsung journeyman named Ulises Flores(9-6-0 at the time) who ended his career with a record of 14-12-1.
Wladimir Klitschko bounced back pretty well from his 3 TKO losses to Puritty, Sanders, and Brewster. Even his brother Vitali told him to retire. Hasn't lost since.
