Look how far we've come from the past...
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Emphasis mine. That is an excerpt from your link.
Now let us look at "black humour"
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/encyclopaedia/hutchinson/m0040437.html
You can't escape it. Black (or dark things) are usually frowned upon or painted in a negative light. Black Magick, Black Sunday, Black monday, etc. And as far as the crocs thanks for proving my point. Not all crocs have the desire to eat you--just like not all whites have the desire to promote racism.
Now let us look at "black humour"
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/encyclopaedia/hutchinson/m0040437.html
You can't escape it. Black (or dark things) are usually frowned upon or painted in a negative light. Black Magick, Black Sunday, Black monday, etc. And as far as the crocs thanks for proving my point. Not all crocs have the desire to eat you--just like not all whites have the desire to promote racism.
I'm listening. Go ahead and explain yourself.
??????? I didn't add anything to what you said. Go back and read it again.
I know "it is what it is" which is why I said you would do exactly what you are doing right now. I gave up? No, YOU gave up and you proved me correct when I said, "you're already on your way to avoiding the majority of questions posed to you"
Go to bed son.
??????? I didn't add anything to what you said. Go back and read it again.
I know "it is what it is" which is why I said you would do exactly what you are doing right now. I gave up? No, YOU gave up and you proved me correct when I said, "you're already on your way to avoiding the majority of questions posed to you"
Go to bed son.
Precisely. Another word for generalization in todays society is ignorance. Sure, ignorance may be the metaphorical 'bliss', but it merely equates to stupidity and lack of learning - I guarantee that if you measured the IQ of all the KKK members and white supremecists, the average quotient would be several point below the population mean.
Exactly. The documentary highlights the fact that nothing much has changed during the last fifty years with regards to the colour of a childs doll selection. However, this doesn't automatically mean that children are soaked in the same racial stigmata that those of yesteryear were. I'm not saying that their doll selection wasn't based on insecurities bought about by racial discrimination (as long as there are people, there will always be racists), but perhaps a significant contributing factor is the history of racism. The concepts 'black flag', 'black knight', bad luck if a 'black cat' crosses your path, dark equating to dirty whilst white equating to clean etc. are as old as the hills. These derogatory terms existed fifty years ago as they do today - perhaps the lack of change in the childrens doll selection has something to do with this 'background' racism of the past diffusing through to the present?
when i think of "black people" i dont think of morbid grotesque people.
when i think "black magic" - i think witches, "black cats" - bad luck, "black sunday" - sadness. black in front of a word doesnt make things bad because people associate it with "black people" Maybe i dont understand what the fuck is going on. black could be bad because of the color, the night is black, you cant see in the night, therefore, what you cant see scares a lot of people. Hell, "black people" arent even black, haha, they're a range of brown. White people, shades of tan, haha... I just think that is funny. I dont think the term "black people" was coined to make "black people" sound like morbid grotesque people, but because it was easier to say than dark brown... who the fuck knows, it could have been, but i am white, so i probably am too stupid to know whats really going on because i am so castrated or conformist... but then again, the term white is right came up, and it seems like many people think this shit...
Go about all your business, black, white, brown, dark brown... and be who you want to be, show respect to people of every color... If i made up this shit, color wouldnt even be a fucking factor, i think racism, on all parts is stupid shit...
Heres a crazy thing... i had a spanish teacher from peru, and he said when he was young, which was quite sometime ago (hes in his 70's), in Peru, when he played soccer with his friends, everyone, no matter who it was, called each other by there skin colors if they didnt know their name, no racism involved, just plain and simple, what you see, a white guy was blanco (white in spanish for the smart ones), and a black guy was negro(black in spanish),, and a brown guy was moreno(brown in spanish),... He didnt call a black guy black because he though the dude looked fucked up or because he was about to die(grotesque & morbid), he just said it because it was a color...sad to see nowadays that people are so ignorant to build this shit up like it is today...
when i think "black magic" - i think witches, "black cats" - bad luck, "black sunday" - sadness. black in front of a word doesnt make things bad because people associate it with "black people" Maybe i dont understand what the fuck is going on. black could be bad because of the color, the night is black, you cant see in the night, therefore, what you cant see scares a lot of people. Hell, "black people" arent even black, haha, they're a range of brown. White people, shades of tan, haha... I just think that is funny. I dont think the term "black people" was coined to make "black people" sound like morbid grotesque people, but because it was easier to say than dark brown... who the fuck knows, it could have been, but i am white, so i probably am too stupid to know whats really going on because i am so castrated or conformist... but then again, the term white is right came up, and it seems like many people think this shit...
Go about all your business, black, white, brown, dark brown... and be who you want to be, show respect to people of every color... If i made up this shit, color wouldnt even be a fucking factor, i think racism, on all parts is stupid shit...
Heres a crazy thing... i had a spanish teacher from peru, and he said when he was young, which was quite sometime ago (hes in his 70's), in Peru, when he played soccer with his friends, everyone, no matter who it was, called each other by there skin colors if they didnt know their name, no racism involved, just plain and simple, what you see, a white guy was blanco (white in spanish for the smart ones), and a black guy was negro(black in spanish),, and a brown guy was moreno(brown in spanish),... He didnt call a black guy black because he though the dude looked fucked up or because he was about to die(grotesque & morbid), he just said it because it was a color...sad to see nowadays that people are so ignorant to build this shit up like it is today...
This must be a world wide perception then, what is it exactly that designates these people(whites) as "the smart ones"?... That seems like a clear distinction to me, and that is not separating people solely on the basis of skin color, but by intellect also. Might be a sub-conscious thing but obviously it's there.. I'm curious as to what they call the asian people then, lol.. Stereotypes are bullshit, and it makes me laugh how people can easily conform to ideas of the general populous and not once think to question the fallibility of these ideologies(not talking about the kids). I actually don't look too deep into things like this because I'm familiar with history, these aren't new concepts, people in power dictate the flow of culture, "He who has the gold, makes the rules"(Murphy's golden rule). Everybody can address these issues, but they are meaningless and simply a topic for discussion unless someone can come up with some type of solution.. For starters, us Black people need a better sense of unity and of history. The fact that we are all a part of the same history, search for knowledge and stop accepting general truths. Use logic and find your own truths, parents indeed play a role, yet there is only so much that parents can do when they themselves are conditioned, so therefore it has to start with a particular generation. As of now, I must admit that it doesn't look very promising for this one, but I am seeing a certain elevation in consciousness that can propel the next. My proposal for the people is to simply live your life and be patient. Nothing lasts forever and all things shall come to pass. What was there first shall be there last, and the meek shall inherit the earth(no, I'm not quoting the Bible). So for me to concentrate on today when I can clearly see the future, would be unacceptable on my part at least.
So what are they soaked in, Hutch?
But wouldn't the history of racism also be a part of the same racial stigmata that you referenced earlier?
However, the fact that they existed fifty years ago and still exist today does not change the connotation. Black is still associated with most things wrong and evil, and no matter how you spin the bottle these concepts play a major role in american society.
If you call it internalized racism yes.
But wouldn't the history of racism also be a part of the same racial stigmata that you referenced earlier?
However, the fact that they existed fifty years ago and still exist today does not change the connotation. Black is still associated with most things wrong and evil, and no matter how you spin the bottle these concepts play a major role in american society.
If you call it internalized racism yes.
so, parkboyz, i didnt say the white ones were smart, u dumb fuck, i meant for those who dont know any spanish, the translation is for the smart ones...
i guess you cant get sarcasm...fuck it
p.s. i didnt even read the rest of yuor post because you just sound like a fuckin idiot... taking shit out of context
i guess you cant get sarcasm...fuck it
p.s. i didnt even read the rest of yuor post because you just sound like a fuckin idiot... taking shit out of context
You said generalizations have a place, I was disagreeing with you. And sure, every FOLLOWER of something is NOT as smart as the LEADER.
That's not rocket science brethren. The leader picks people that are ignorant because they can train those people to do what the leader wants. But that doesn't mean that every single last member is a fucking retarded douche mouth. It simply means, just like in other situations, that SOME people are not as smart as others, but you can't say that one group is stupid...plus, stupidity is left up to each individual's personal definition.
We will NEVER fully be able to communicate our ideas, because what you read, you fit to your perspective, and I think most people do the same thing, including me. I'm reading this book called "The Politics of Experience," and it basically says that you will never experience what it's like to be me (that's obvious) but in turn, you won't know where I'm coming from, or how I mean things because you haven't experienced like exactly as I have....anyway, I'm done rambling for now...been on a research kick for school and needed a break...
That's not rocket science brethren. The leader picks people that are ignorant because they can train those people to do what the leader wants. But that doesn't mean that every single last member is a fucking retarded douche mouth. It simply means, just like in other situations, that SOME people are not as smart as others, but you can't say that one group is stupid...plus, stupidity is left up to each individual's personal definition.
We will NEVER fully be able to communicate our ideas, because what you read, you fit to your perspective, and I think most people do the same thing, including me. I'm reading this book called "The Politics of Experience," and it basically says that you will never experience what it's like to be me (that's obvious) but in turn, you won't know where I'm coming from, or how I mean things because you haven't experienced like exactly as I have....anyway, I'm done rambling for now...been on a research kick for school and needed a break...
I think that's a good point, it would be interesting if someone actually did a documentary on this....
Racism isn't just a problem here, it's a problem everywhere....although, it might not be "racism," it might just be another form of severe discrimination...
kinda like jews/palastine, the 'civil war' (yeah fucking right, nice public relations ploy) in Iraq....etc etc...
Maybe I'm wrong, but that was just something that came to mind.
Racism isn't just a problem here, it's a problem everywhere....although, it might not be "racism," it might just be another form of severe discrimination...
kinda like jews/palastine, the 'civil war' (yeah fucking right, nice public relations ploy) in Iraq....etc etc...
Maybe I'm wrong, but that was just something that came to mind.
its pretty cute to watch you guys "discover" the inferences of this groundbreaking "documentary" and fulfilling my stereotypes of you by attributing them to...big surprise here...the white man.
the intial question is terribly loaded which makes me wonder why any of you even give merit to these supposed results. "which is the good doll" is the same as asking "which is not the bad doll". giving a child a choice of two dolls implies one is good and one is bad. now lets use heresys regurrgitation of what he learned last night in his cc sociology course while remembering that this "experiment" involved black children:
" Now, if you are from the ghetto, the only MALE role models you've saw are pimps, pushers, and preachers lying their ass off, what will be the usual outcome before you hit 21? "
based on this, the children seem to have made the correct choice, given their limit of having to choose one. more than likely the only people they have been directly victimized by also happened to look like them. thank you.
the intial question is terribly loaded which makes me wonder why any of you even give merit to these supposed results. "which is the good doll" is the same as asking "which is not the bad doll". giving a child a choice of two dolls implies one is good and one is bad. now lets use heresys regurrgitation of what he learned last night in his cc sociology course while remembering that this "experiment" involved black children:
" Now, if you are from the ghetto, the only MALE role models you've saw are pimps, pushers, and preachers lying their ass off, what will be the usual outcome before you hit 21? "
based on this, the children seem to have made the correct choice, given their limit of having to choose one. more than likely the only people they have been directly victimized by also happened to look like them. thank you.
As usual you make no sense.
The original results carried a lot of merit. However, I wouldn't expect you to know this considering you have no insight pertaining to Brown vs Board of Education. :dead:
In some circles.
Again, refer to the original test and how it played a role in Brown vs Board of Education.
1. Refer to the original test.
2. I am on vacation, school doesn't start yet.
3. What school do you go to?
4. Due to your many typo's and run on sentences, I think you should at LEAST take a basic entry level english course at your local CC.
You are grasping for straws and misinterprenting what has been stated. You are obviously comparing two different instances in hopes of somehow validating your wacky beliefs. The main question to ask here is do I need to go in depth and explain why you are a dummy for trying to compare two completely different scenarios?
The original results carried a lot of merit. However, I wouldn't expect you to know this considering you have no insight pertaining to Brown vs Board of Education. :dead:
In some circles.
Again, refer to the original test and how it played a role in Brown vs Board of Education.
1. Refer to the original test.
2. I am on vacation, school doesn't start yet.
3. What school do you go to?
4. Due to your many typo's and run on sentences, I think you should at LEAST take a basic entry level english course at your local CC.
You are grasping for straws and misinterprenting what has been stated. You are obviously comparing two different instances in hopes of somehow validating your wacky beliefs. The main question to ask here is do I need to go in depth and explain why you are a dummy for trying to compare two completely different scenarios?