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interestin'.. i would have liked to hear why the kids picked that one.. obviously someone put it into there head. but who?.. the parents?.. friends?.. television?.. society?
 
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i believe parents can teach all the rights that society wrongs.. even if they themselves feel worthless... they should not put that onto there kids.. it's easy to have kids.. it's even easier to let someone else raise them.

no wooden african sculptures in your living room?.. you got that jenny jones shit on youtube?.. HA

i just thought of a joke.. h.. your just like a bible.. black on the outside.. white on the inside.
 

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i believe parents can teach all the rights that society wrongs.. even if they themselves feel worthless... they should not put that onto there kids.. it's easy to have kids.. it's even easier to let someone else raise them.
If you had any sort of knowledge pertaining to sociology you wouldn't have wasted this sites bandwidth, junior. Who is to say that the parents raised their kids to pick a certain doll? Why can't it be because of the mental castration and "white is right" mentality that is promoted every day of the year by the white majority? In this country white IS right, and anything that does not coincide or compliment this ideaology is frowned upon, ostracized and trampled over.

no wooden african sculptures in your living room?.. you got that jenny jones shit on youtube?.. HA
I keep books written by Afrikan and African american authors in my living room. As far as the tv show piece that will PALE IN COMPARISON to what I am going to do in a couple months, and whats odd about that is EVERYONE who approached me on the street about it agreed with it.
i just thought of a joke.. h.. your just like a bible.. black on the outside.. white on the inside.
That is one dumb joke, because not all bibles are black on the outside. I am critical of the black race, and I will remain critical of the black race as long as african american haters such as yourself continue to dominate the world. See, you never see me endorsing the white majority when I DO criticize my people. In addition, I suggest you take a crash course on sarcasm and wit before you respond. What is the constant theme in the experiment (both the one conducted in the past and the one recently)? You guessed it WHITE IS RIGHT.

Now please, go and do whatever it is that you do to ease yourself and relax, because you CAN'T match wits with me. I am SUPERIOR to you in ALL aspects of life, but since this is the truth, I probably wasted several minutes typing all of this (because it will all fly over your head.) However, even God walked amongst mortals and reduced himself to a commoner, so I guess my role isn't that bad.

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YA I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE CHILDRENS REASON FOR WHY THEY CHOSE TO CONSISTANTLY PIC THE WHITE DOLL OVER THE BLACK DOLL, AND WHY THEY CONSIDER THE BLACK DOLL "THE BAD DOLL". SINCE THOSE CHILDREN WERE SO YOUNG, I AM WONDERING HOW THESE THOUGHTS WERE LEARNED OR BY WHAT MEANS THE DECISION STEMMED FROM.
 

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HERESY said:
If you had any sort of knowledge pertaining to sociology you wouldn't have wasted this sites bandwidth, junior. Who is to say that the parents raised their kids to pick a certain doll? Why can't it be because of the mental castration and "white is right" mentality that is promoted every day of the year by the white majority? In this country white IS right, and anything that does not coincide or compliment this ideaology is frowned upon, ostracized and trampled over.
I completely agree. Society is structured a certain way, by the dominating class or race, in this country they usually coincide.

Your education, is an ACCULTURATION. We are given a "white" education whether any of you fucking realize that or not. Realize, there is probably 1 WEEK out of the year that any class studies someone who's NOT white. You study slavery while you learn about the Civil War and that's it. Yet in High School, I sat through 2 weeks of Genocide Education about WW2 and the Jewish population. Not to mention, the number of people killed/murdered was exaggerated beyond belief, not saying it's justified, any murder is fucked up...point being, the "system" wants you to think a certain way, EDUCATION=TRAINING TO BE A SLAVE TO THE SYSTEM.

The same problems exist in education TODAY, as did when it first BEGAN in the 1800's. Anyone that wasn't white, didn't get an education for awhile, for the most part that is. The Native Americans "got" to go to school, if you define "got" as being dragged out of their fucking homes and forced to go to schools that were across the country...and they were cross country because when they were close to home, they would "ESCAPE" from school to be with their FAMILIES so they could live THEIR OWN LIVES. Also, the reason was to keep them from speaking their native language and practicing their traditional religions...I thought that was the reason people came here, to escape religious persecution? Oh wait, that's right, they only give a fuck about what THEY (white protestants and other sects of Christianity) want, not anyone else.

Every institution in this country is dominated by whites, and sports leagues don't fucking count. I'm talking about presidents, teachers, judges, police, et cetera.

WE ARE ALL TAUGHT THE SAME INFORMATION BECAUSE THE GOAL IS TO REPRODUCE THE SAME SOCIETY OVER AND OVER SO YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE SAME TYPES OF PEOPLE.
 

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I completely agree. Society is structured a certain way, by the dominating class or race, in this country they usually coincide.

Your education, is an ACCULTURATION. We are given a "white" education whether any of you fucking realize that or not. Realize, there is probably 1 WEEK out of the year that any class studies someone who's NOT white (excluding MLK Jr, Rosa Parks, and probably Ghandi)...

The same problems exist in education TODAY, as did when it first BEGAN in the 1800's. Anyone that wasn't white, didn't get an education for awhile, for the most part that is. The Native Americans "got" to go to school, if you define "got" as being dragged out of their fucking homes and forced to go to schools that were across the country...and they were cross country because when they were close to home, they would "ESCAPE" from school to be with their FAMILIES so they could live THEIR OWN LIVES.

Every institution in this country is dominated by whites, and sports leagues don't fucking count. I'm talking about presidents, teachers, judges, police, et cetera.

WE ARE ALL TAUGHT THE SAME INFORMATION BECAUSE THE GOAL IS TO REPRODUCE THE SAME SOCIETY OVER AND OVER SO YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE SAME TYPES OF PEOPLE.

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first you need to stop thinkin' you're almighty anything.. and once you realize that.. the truth will set you free.... the only thing that could impress me about your future is if you were runnin' for president... it's sad you can let white america drag you down.. what's sadder is that you had nobody around to lift you back up.. in this day and age.. where black is "in".. we got all other races actin' black.. you would think children would pride themselves more.. i agree people like beyonce set bad examples for today's youth with the wigs and all to conform to this society's take on beautiful.. but if your not strong enough as a person.. to just let society as you say mentally castrate you.. then that's on you..

p.s. i never said parent's taught there kids to pick a certain doll.. with your mentality all your doin' is keepin' yourself down.. no one ever taught you to be proud of yourself... you conformist.

p.s.s.. it was a terrible joke.. but it popped in my head.. and i went with it.
 
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"which one is the good doll?". Wouldn't the children interpret that as which doll do you prefer? It doesn't necessarily mean that they believe these dolls are actually 'good' or 'bad' - the film-maker is putting words into their mouths. If I approached a small child and asked him "where is your pedophilic daddy?", he would more than likely approach his father and say "here he is". Does the child honestly mean that his dad's a pedophile? I doubt it.

Also, every child is taught not to go outside when it's dark because bad things can happen to you. They lie awake at night and cry when they think someone is lurking behind the curtain, or under the bed, or that a monster is in the cupboard, who's eyes will blaze back from the darkness when they open the door. Darkness is associated with death, light with life. Darkness is also associated with being dirty, light with being clean, or pure.

In other words, perhaps these children might not have been simply saying "dark skinned people are bad, light skinned people are good". Perhaps there could be a deeper psychological basis for their selections. Pardon the pun, but nothings ever black and white.
 

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Who decided that darkness was associated with being dirty, and that light was being clean and/or pure? Can you answer that one?

My finger tends to point towards ORGANIZED RELIGION...as well as poets who's words are used out of context.

Kids know "good" as being nice and friendly and "bad" as being mean and hurtful, for the most part, doesn't matter what race you are, again, "the system" is training us to be the same (for profits, not necessarily money).

Oh yeah, Jomodo, thank you for posting this, it shocked the hell out of me.
 

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first you need to stop thinkin' you're almighty anything
No. In fact, I actually need to turn it up a notch if people such as yourself are willing to go back and forth with me.

and once you realize that.. the truth will set you free
The day I opened a book and read for myself is the day I became free. Understand what I am saying and you'll be free.

the only thing that could impress me about your future is if you were runnin' for president
Why would that impress you? I need a good laugh, go ahead and explain why that would impress you. I'm all ears (eyes.)

it's sad you can let white america drag you down..
White america is not dragging me down, junior. The only way white america does drag me down is when status quo implements a law/rule/regulation/policy that affects me in a negative way. I know how to get around white america and the obvious traps laid before me.

what's sadder is that you had nobody around to lift you back up
Whats more sad is your far-fetched belief that white america has dragged me down and that I don't have anyone around to lift me up. How you come to this assessment is far from logical, and any attempts at requesting you to elaborate are futile.

in this day and age.. where black is "in"..
Black is NOT "in". Certain aspects of black culture (good and bad) are "in" because they generate $$$$$$, but make no mistake, BLACK is NOT in. You obviously know NOTHING about the current status quo, what they believe in, or what has been going on for the past hundreds of years. Hell, if black was in, I need you to explain to me why those children didn't pick the black dolls.

we got all other races actin' black
How does one act black? Shuck and jive like a coon? Dance a jig like a golliwog? Behave like amos & andy? Oh I get it, "actin black be lisnen ta dat der rap music like you be doin godzilla. actin black be werrin dem dam baggy closes, and puttin dat gol and platnum in yo grillz instead of inbestin dat money money money money in reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel tangibos" :dead:

Basically, acting black to you would be the acceptance of any stereotype (especially the brute negro image.) But please, feel free to AVOID the question of how one acts black.

you would think children would pride themselves more
No, YOU would think that. A person who understands the concepts of internalized racism wouldn't think such a thing. It really has nothing to do with the children themselves but more on what has been internalized and handed down from generation to generation.

i agree people like beyonce set bad examples for today's youth with the wigs and all to conform to this society's take on beautiful
And you think bad examples are limited to Beyonce? Godzilla, what type of music do you listen to?

but if your not strong enough as a person.. to just let society as you say mentally castrate you.. then that's on you..
But how can you expect a child to be strong enough? And mental castration can happen if you are NOT willing to change your way of living and mentality. Now, if you are from the ghetto, the only MALE role models you've saw are pimps, pushers, and preachers lying their ass off, what will be the usual outcome before you hit 21? You'll either be dead or in the prison system before you hit the age of 18. If you do not have the life chances and social mobility as whites what will happen? If you have no infrastructure to help you what happens? So you see, for some people, it isn't a simple case of "I'm strong, and I can avoid all the bullshit."

p.s. i never said parent's taught there kids to pick a certain doll.. with your mentality all your doin' is keepin' yourself down.. no one ever taught you to be proud of yourself... you conformist.
Your statement doesn't make sense, and asking you how I'm a conformist won't do a lick of good because you're already on your way to avoiding the majority of questions posed to you. However, no one said that you said parents taught their kids anything. Go back and read what you previously posted. Here, I'll do it for you.

interestin'.. i would have liked to hear why the kids picked that one.. obviously someone put it into there head. but who?.. the parents?.. friends?.. television?.. society?
bold emphasis mine.

Again, if you had any sort of knowledge pertaining to sociology you wouldn't have wasted this sites bandwidth, junior. Who is to say that the parents raised their kids to pick a certain doll? Why can't it be because of the mental castration and "white is right" mentality that is promoted every day of the year by the white majority? In this country white IS right, and anything that does not coincide or compliment this ideaology is frowned upon, ostracized and trampled over.

p.s.s.. it was a terrible joke.. but it popped in my head.. and i went with it.
Again, I don't mind the insults, but at LEAST make them somewhat amusing. :dead:
 

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Quick question, so Heresy and Input, what if things were switched around, black being good, and white being bad, what would you say?
As long as one group is considered "bad", instead of particular individuals within the group, the problem will persist. Also, you can switch things around (white is bad and black is good), but you still have a system that rooted in the euro power structure and promotes eurocentric values.
 

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Quick question, so Heresy and Input, what if things were switched around, black being good, and white being bad, what would you say?
You know I don't deal with "what if," but I'll entertain your question. I'd say, "FUCK THAT." Saying something is or is not ALWAYS a certain way, is a BOLD FACED LIE. The only people that tell you things like that, are people who are trying to get you to be just like them...which leads to the second half of what Heresy said about eurocentric values.

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As long as one group is considered "bad", instead of particular individuals within the group, the problem will persist. Also, you can switch things around (white is bad and black is good), but you still have a system that rooted in the euro power structure and promotes eurocentric values.
And I agree with everything Heresy said too.
 
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As long as one group is considered "bad", instead of particular individuals within the group, the problem will persist. Also, you can switch things around (white is bad and black is good), but you still have a system that rooted in the euro power structure and promotes eurocentric values.
Evolutionarily speaking, generalizations have their place. Don't jump into a river infested with crocodiles because you might be eaten. That doesn't mean that every crocodile would try to eat you - the smaller ones wouldn't risk it, some of the larger ones may have just had a big meal, and others could be focussed on mating. However, the generalization that 'crocodiles will eat you' is a very beneficial one to have.

I'm not justifying racism, or sexism, or any form of biast -ism, but our brains are prone to generalizations - it makes everything clearer for us. As I've said in previous posts, nothing is strictly black and white - there are infinite shades of grey. However, humans have an innate desire to categorize things and to generalize. For some strange reason, maybe it provides comfort to racists who think "black is bad, white is good and that's that". It would probably hurt their brains too much to accept the fact that life is a lot more complex than simple 'black and white'. Anyone who sports such thoughts, discriminating between equal groups based on cosmetic differences, are not very intelligent. Unfortunately, fuck-wits run the world (I am reading a book right now called 'Triumph of the Airheads and the Retreat of Commonsense' which deals with this topic, very interesting read - I recommend it. Here's a review if you're interested.)