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May 11, 2002
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"we didn't have any economic knowledge"... exactly, these kids dont know how good they have it. Europeans have it way better when it comes to getting school and health care paid for. A 15% increase isn't that much, im comparison to what Americans pay.
 

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im glad shits poppin off n i hope it starts here next. tare down the fuckin government. i served em n saw first had how fucked it is. i think once shitreally hits the fan, alot of r soldiers will b right there w us. the people r gettin sicka all the bs
 
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. A 15% increase isn't that much, im comparison to what Americans pay.
yeah, it doesnt even come close to school prices in the US...

I am taking the SATs in a few weeks, you should see all the fees that come with that shit. College is a huge scam, i have 0 interest in it
 
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"we didn't have any economic knowledge"... exactly, these kids dont know how good they have it. Europeans have it way better when it comes to getting school and health care paid for. A 15% increase isn't that much, im comparison to what Americans pay.
Totally irrelevant, they don't live in America. Further, their system is different they have higher taxes, etc etc etc.

In addition, the point is Europeans understand how to rise up and demand change and they regularly get it, while Americans sit back and do nothing.

All throughout Europe you see this. Massive protests/strikes that cripple the country in order for the workers/students to get what THEY want. They fight back against things they believe unfair or unjust. They understand they collectively have that power. Americans lack this understanding and unity.

Also, you can use the same argument - they or we don't know how good we have it compared to Somalia or Uganda. Just because there are worse places in the world doesn't mean they/we shouldn't demand/ask for improvements.
 
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then move to Europe faggot, seriously, all you do is talk shit. I know that when my European ancestors from my moms side moved here in the 50's they kissed the fucking ground. If you work for a living in a country like England dont expect to have a good life. My dad moved here in 1984 and never looked back. You talk like you're about socialism and communism but you wouldn't last a week in soviet Poland
 
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Totally irrelevant, they don't live in America. Further, their system is different they have higher taxes, etc etc etc.

In addition, the point is Europeans understand how to rise up and demand change and they regularly get it, while Americans sit back and do nothing.

All throughout Europe you see this. Massive protests/strikes that cripple the country in order for the workers/students to get what THEY want. They fight back against things they believe unfair or unjust. They understand they collectively have that power. Americans lack this understanding and unity.

Also, you can use the same argument - they or we don't know how good we have it compared to Somalia or Uganda. Just because there are worse places in the world doesn't mean they/we shouldn't demand/ask for improvements.
I think its just a different political culture. The United States never had a monarchy or a socialist party. Plus all the immagrants that have poured into America give a different sense of what role the government is suppose to play in their lives. Most immigrants brave enough to travel accross the Atlantic and endure the hardships are willing to work for that "American Dream". There is a idea, that in America that if you work hard you will eventually get what you need and not to rely on the government. Plus Americans are hesitant to shake up the status quo because there is a belief that one day I might be that person.

The two are just simply different political cultures of which are much different then each other because of their histories. I applaud the students protesting and standing up for what they feel they disserve, this doesnt hide the fact that they are privilaged.
 
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I think its just a different political culture. The United States never had a monarchy or a socialist party.
The socialist party was pretty massive at various times in american history, not to mention played critical roles in fighting for what became our workers rights...


Plus all the immagrants that have poured into America give a different sense of what role the government is suppose to play in their lives. Most immigrants brave enough to travel accross the Atlantic and endure the hardships are willing to work for that "American Dream". There is a idea, that in America that if you work hard you will eventually get what you need and not to rely on the government. Plus Americans are hesitant to shake up the status quo because there is a belief that one day I might be that person.

The two are just simply different political cultures of which are much different then each other because of their histories. I applaud the students protesting and standing up for what they feel they disserve, this doesnt hide the fact that they are privilaged.

I disagree. In the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's (as well as the 60's and 70's (although the 60's/70's were more civil rights and anti war)) Americans had a tremendous understanding of fighting for workers rights. America was also much more unionized back then, compared to how embarrassingly tiny the public sector is now (something like 7% compared to say france which is over 70%). Workers would constantly strike, take over factories, shut shit completely down, etc.

It has taken decades of anti labor policies, as well as very advanced propaganda to get where we are today.