LeBron James wins MVP

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This series is kind of a flashback to the 80's. I say good call on the refs part for not ejecting Haslem. This is the playoffs, shit is supposed to get tough. Besides, the Pacers decided to get tough first. On the other end, Hansborough made a hard play on Wade, and Haslem was just sticking up for his teammate. Even though I'm rooting for the Heat, I agree with Larry Bird...I'm disappointed that no one on the Pacers stood up for Hansborough on the other end.
 
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Is this a joke???? ok well let me start by saying he had no idea he would be facing the pacers this year when he made a decision 2 years ago. him, bosh and wade plotted this shit out for it to be an easy route. it has been far from easy but he tried to make it as easy as he could and thats not a true competitor if you ask me. also how he left his team hanging with no answer until we all knew is beeyond wrong and the complete stupid way to handle things. sure he made a decision he felt was best, but what he saw it as was a fastlane to a title which is why he took it.

Sure his stats were good but people looking at that is like looking at a blueprint right? i mean it's like a house, sure on paper it can look amazing but it takes good people to truly make it a house. well this kid has all the talent in the world and proved what he was capable of as a competitor when he won his 1st 2 MVPS. he led his team to being a great team and it showed. now that he took this easy route he has fallen off as a competitor when it really counts. he shys away from tough shots and when he takes them he usually misses them. a true MVP wants the ball at the end and thrives on having it. that has nothing to do with bluprinting because it can only be felt and is rarely shown in it's true form on paper. watching him play he doesnt play like a True competitor anymore.

Also to compare a game to everyday life is sort of dumb if you ask me. he has to compete at his job to gain accolades and we dont when we drive to work. i guess a way to compare is if you got yourself a management job at you're job and you worked your ass off to get to the top then you just shut down and stop caring because you're where you want to be. if that happens then you should be demoted or even fired since you aint worthy of being management and thats how i feel with Lebron .
^^^^^^^^^ question. How do u know that Bosh,Lebron and wade plotted and said that its gonna be easy for them to win a title? Were u in the room with them when they had this convo? Lol. How about them beliveing that it would be a great opportunity to win. Boston has the big 3 and rondo. The lakers have bynum, kobe and gasol. OKC has Durant,Westbrook and Harden. Spurs have Tim,Ginobli and parker. Did those players I listed think that getting a title would be easy?. Great teams win championships not just 1 individual. Lebron had another great game he other day 30pts and almost a triple double. U wana tell me that Lebron doesn't care? Cmon man. U are not making sense.
 
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^^^^^^^^^ question. How do u know that Bosh,Lebron and wade plotted and said that its gonna be easy for them to win a title? Were u in the room with them when they had this convo? Lol. How about them beliveing that it would be a great opportunity to win. Boston has the big 3 and rondo. The lakers have bynum, kobe and gasol. OKC has Durant,Westbrook and Harden. Spurs have Tim,Ginobli and parker. Did those players I listed think that getting a title would be easy?. Great teams win championships not just 1 individual. Lebron had another great game he other day 30pts and almost a triple double. U wana tell me that Lebron doesn't care? Cmon man. U are not making sense.
He knows LeBron, Wade and Bosh thought it was gonna be "easy" to win a title because LeBron told the millions of onlookers that he was gonna win 8+ titles in Miami. That's how.

Also there is a huge difference between taking 3 established elite players and putting them on the same team, and a team drafting players and coaching them to elite status. OKC drafted Durant, Westbrook and Harden and coahed them to where they're at today. Duncan, Ginobli and Parker were all drafted by the Spurs and coached to elite status. The Lakers drafted Kobe (for all intents and purposes) and Bynum and coached them. They did, however, trade for Gasol. That is the difference between how the Heat formed and how those other teams formed. Not saying it's wrong, I'm just clarifying what actually happened.
 
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actually okc didnt draft durant, seattle did lol

theres people who will always have lebrons dick deep in there mouths and wont change there mind about him

and theres others who hate him like if he fucked theyre baby mama and gave her teh aids who in turn burned them]

these arguments are going no where
 
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^^^^^^^^^ question. How do u know that Bosh,Lebron and wade plotted and said that its gonna be easy for them to win a title? Were u in the room with them when they had this convo? Lol. How about them beliveing that it would be a great opportunity to win. Boston has the big 3 and rondo. The lakers have bynum, kobe and gasol. OKC has Durant,Westbrook and Harden. Spurs have Tim,Ginobli and parker. Did those players I listed think that getting a title would be easy?. Great teams win championships not just 1 individual. Lebron had another great game he other day 30pts and almost a triple double. U wana tell me that Lebron doesn't care? Cmon man. U are not making sense.
because they teamed up in free agency to do so. none of the other teams you mentioned did anything like that. Bosh was the 1st to announce then they had videos of him and wade rallying for lebron to join them n shit and he did. then when he did they all said they felt it would be the easiest way to win it all. so what i'm saying has everything to do with what i witnessed when all this shit happened. and like i said there's nothing wrong with that, but i will never consider you a legend of the sport if you do what you can to make it easier for yourself to win a chip. how LeBron handled it was wrong IMO and he lost alot of credit IMO for doing it how he did. you have your opinion and i have mine.
 
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oh yeah and theres were people from the olympic team that said lebron bosh and wade would joke about teaming up in free agency. and now that it actually happened maybe it wasnt a joke afterall.
 
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He knows LeBron, Wade and Bosh thought it was gonna be "easy" to win a title because LeBron told the millions of onlookers that he was gonna win 8+ titles in Miami. That's how.

Also there is a huge difference between taking 3 established elite players and putting them on the same team, and a team drafting players and coaching them to elite status. OKC drafted Durant, Westbrook and Harden and coahed them to where they're at today. Duncan, Ginobli and Parker were all drafted by the Spurs and coached to elite status. The Lakers drafted Kobe (for all intents and purposes) and Bynum and coached them. They did, however, trade for Gasol. That is the difference between how the Heat formed and how those other teams formed. Not saying it's wrong, I'm just clarifying what actually happened.
^^^^^^^ I know the difference on how those teams were formed. Regardless of the difference teams want the most talent to win. Bottom like. People are mad at Lebron and Bosh because they bossed up and made their own moves without managment controlling them. People get mad at people that control their own destinies
 
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if every player had the mentality that lebron had then there would only be about 6-7 teams worth watching, the other teams would be just average and those teams would be elite elite to the point it would be worthless to watch the nba
 

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He knows LeBron, Wade and Bosh thought it was gonna be "easy" to win a title because LeBron told the millions of onlookers that he was gonna win 8+ titles in Miami. That's how.

Also there is a huge difference between taking 3 established elite players and putting them on the same team, and a team drafting players and coaching them to elite status. OKC drafted Durant, Westbrook and Harden and coahed them to where they're at today. Duncan, Ginobli and Parker were all drafted by the Spurs and coached to elite status. The Lakers drafted Kobe (for all intents and purposes) and Bynum and coached them. They did, however, trade for Gasol. That is the difference between how the Heat formed and how those other teams formed. Not saying it's wrong, I'm just clarifying what actually happened.
The Hornets drafted Kobe and he refused to play for them and demanded a trade to the Lakers before he ever played a game. Which is way gayer than waiting for your contract to expire, becoming a free agent and signing where ever you want to.
 

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The Hornets drafted Kobe and he refused to play for them and demanded a trade to the Lakers before he ever played a game. Which is way gayer than waiting for your contract to expire, becoming a free agent and signing where ever you want to.
Exactly. Props. I can't prop you because I'm posting from tapatalk while taking a shit at work, but ill prop u later.
 
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if every player had the mentality that lebron had then there would only be about 6-7 teams worth watching, the other teams would be just average and those teams would be elite elite to the point it would be worthless to watch the nba
^^^^^^ the leaugue is already like that as it is. Over half of the teams are horrible. All GMs would love 3 stars on their teams. The reason why they don't have 3 stars is because. 1. All teams don't make the same revenue 2. Most teams can't attract a big free agent 3. Most teams georgraphiclly can't attaract a big star. Who the eff wants to play in cleveland? I don't understand how many of u blame Lebron for wanting to go to a better team/situation in oreder to have a better opportunity to win. Was he upposed to stay in cleveland to satisfy other people? Its called going to the best situation in order to win? Did people blame phil jackson when he went to the Lakers after he coached the Bulls? Did people say he was takin the easy way to a championship? He went on to coach Shaq, Kobe D. Fisher and Robbert Horry. Why can't y'all criticize phil jackson for joinin up with superstars. U think Hil Jackson would have coached the Wizards or the T wolves? Lol. Hell no. Name 1 player that wants to be on a bad team with no help around him. U see what happened to Dan Marino, Barry Sanders, Barkley, Domonique Wilkins, Ewing, Thurman Thomas etc all great players bu didn't have enuf talent around them to win a ring. Lebron said fuck that. He's gonna go to another team with better players to up his chances of winning. What could be wwrong with that? That's like the US marines or special forces.When they went to kill Osama Bin Laden they chose a team of the most elite soldiers to carry out the mission. Why would u want to complete a mission with bums around u? I wana go to war with the best soldiers and so did Lebron