KOBE SUSPENDED 1 GAME FOR BEIN A BITCH!!!!!!!
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The thing is, you don't notice this happening because there's no reason to notice it in the normal flow of the game. This incident shed light on that particular motion. It happens all of the time though.
Cats catch elbows under the basket goin for boards all of the time. It's the same kind of thing - it's a reflex. I got a scar above my left eye from a dude who elbowed me coming down from a rebound attempt. He was in the air, got under cut a little bit and started flailing his arms around trying to balance himself as he was coming down. Caught me in my eye. Shit happens
Correct, he got blocked from the side. Thing is, when you get your jumper blocked from the side, and not the front, you still feel like you can get the shot off because the ball isn't being shoved back in your face. Remember, the ball is still in Kobe's hands as Ginobili gets his hand on it. The second Kobe feels that the shot is impeded, muscle memory kicks in and wants to use as much force as possible to get that ball towards the rim just in case a foul is called. That's where I see that crazy follow through coming in.
This notion that Kobe did that shit on purpose is bullshit strictly on the grounds that if this was Tracy McGrady and not Kobe, no one would be calling him a bitch. Mufuckas want to make this shit about anything other than basketball and refuse to look at any other option other than Kobe Bryant being a "bitch".
It's a double standard. Bruce Bowen closes out on cats on jumpshots, they come down on his foot, sprain their ankle and Bowen is a dirty player. Shaq does the same thing and it's nothin. Same type of thing.
Cats catch elbows under the basket goin for boards all of the time. It's the same kind of thing - it's a reflex. I got a scar above my left eye from a dude who elbowed me coming down from a rebound attempt. He was in the air, got under cut a little bit and started flailing his arms around trying to balance himself as he was coming down. Caught me in my eye. Shit happens
Correct, he got blocked from the side. Thing is, when you get your jumper blocked from the side, and not the front, you still feel like you can get the shot off because the ball isn't being shoved back in your face. Remember, the ball is still in Kobe's hands as Ginobili gets his hand on it. The second Kobe feels that the shot is impeded, muscle memory kicks in and wants to use as much force as possible to get that ball towards the rim just in case a foul is called. That's where I see that crazy follow through coming in.
This notion that Kobe did that shit on purpose is bullshit strictly on the grounds that if this was Tracy McGrady and not Kobe, no one would be calling him a bitch. Mufuckas want to make this shit about anything other than basketball and refuse to look at any other option other than Kobe Bryant being a "bitch".
It's a double standard. Bruce Bowen closes out on cats on jumpshots, they come down on his foot, sprain their ankle and Bowen is a dirty player. Shaq does the same thing and it's nothin. Same type of thing.
MrPeete said:
You've never seen Tayshaun Prince shoot have you? 
If you watch enough basketball you'll see it happen pretty often.
I still find it funny that cats have nothing to say about Brian Cook NOT being suspended for doing the same thing.
Cats hate just because they think it's the thing to do.
If you watch enough basketball you'll see it happen pretty often.
I still find it funny that cats have nothing to say about Brian Cook NOT being suspended for doing the same thing.
Cats hate just because they think it's the thing to do.
When did cook do this? If cook did this it would look so out of place cause he has a quick release and any kind of out of place motion would be obvious. Now that I think about it, brain cook trying to draw a foul? i mean brian cook must avg a free throw every 10 games.
I just watched tha video about 20 times in a row, you can clearly see Kobe's intent after tha blocked shot with tha way his arm came back down full force and smacked Gino upside tha head.
Your arm will not follow through like his did after that block naturally, it just won't. Your arm would be goin upward like a shotput toss...There is noway your arm would motion down and out toward tha side of your body like that unless you wanted it to.
His arm doesnt even follow through after tha block, he basically threw Gino out of tha way to try and get a 2nd chance at tha loose ball. He was clearly shocked/frustrated that he came out of nowhere and blocked it.
Your arm will not follow through like his did after that block naturally, it just won't. Your arm would be goin upward like a shotput toss...There is noway your arm would motion down and out toward tha side of your body like that unless you wanted it to.
His arm doesnt even follow through after tha block, he basically threw Gino out of tha way to try and get a 2nd chance at tha loose ball. He was clearly shocked/frustrated that he came out of nowhere and blocked it.
trust me...i play plenty of ball, what you are sayin isnt makin much sense...when you talked about elbows and reflexs under tha basket goin for rebounds, blocks and blockin out and such I fully agree with you there...But your stance on tha Gino block doesnt at all...
I guess we do agree to disagree...
I guess we do agree to disagree...
The reason why I brought the rebounding scenario up was to show you that arms (sometimes legs) are always flying around regardless of the situation on the court. That's part of basketball.
You don't notice the ferocity at which body parts are flying around (pretty much every play) until somebody gets hit in the face though.
That's my point.
If this played out exactly the same way with the lone exception being Kobe didn't actually strike Manu in the face, nobody would have a problem with it because no one would have noticed it.
You don't notice the ferocity at which body parts are flying around (pretty much every play) until somebody gets hit in the face though.
That's my point.
If this played out exactly the same way with the lone exception being Kobe didn't actually strike Manu in the face, nobody would have a problem with it because no one would have noticed it.
Amongst some NBA players, Stu Jackson has a rep for being quick to overreact and blow things out of proportion.
A week and a half - two weeks ago, Baron Davis got suspended one game for attempting to block Quinton Ross' shot from behind.
If you saw that play, you'll see why some NBA players think Stu Jackson overreacts.
It will be interesting to see what he (Stu Jackson) does to LeBron after he accidentally clotheslined D. Wade in tonights game.
A week and a half - two weeks ago, Baron Davis got suspended one game for attempting to block Quinton Ross' shot from behind.
If you saw that play, you'll see why some NBA players think Stu Jackson overreacts.
It will be interesting to see what he (Stu Jackson) does to LeBron after he accidentally clotheslined D. Wade in tonights game.
Are you seriously saying BD "attempted to block" QRoss' shot? I doubt a hard swipe from behind without jumping and after getting elbowed in the mouth is attempting to block anything. He was reacting impulsively, QRoss didn't even try to shoot lol how is he trying to block a shot if he didn't even shoot?
Back to Kobe, I saw this on ESPN and when I saw that, I further disliked Kobe. That shit wasn't unintentional, please. If you got your shot blocked with the momentum of the ball going towards the right along with your arm, why the hell would his right arm flail back to the left? I think it was part intentional and part reactional. I don't think he meant to clobber Manu in the grill like that, I think he wanted to get separation from Manu so he could go for an interrupted shot, nonetheless a bitch move.
Back to Kobe, I saw this on ESPN and when I saw that, I further disliked Kobe. That shit wasn't unintentional, please. If you got your shot blocked with the momentum of the ball going towards the right along with your arm, why the hell would his right arm flail back to the left? I think it was part intentional and part reactional. I don't think he meant to clobber Manu in the grill like that, I think he wanted to get separation from Manu so he could go for an interrupted shot, nonetheless a bitch move.
smh...
Again, if you watch/play enough basketball, you'll understand that, yes he was attempting to block the shot (even if he was hoping he caught a lot of arm along the way ) Even though Stu Jackson watches waaaaaaaaaaay more ball than all of us combined, he might be a little out of touch when it comes to this type of play.
Example:
I'm guarding you, and you're in triple threat: You jab step right, and go left. I bite on the jab step and I'm beat.
In this case, if you (the ball handler) take an escape dribble and pull up for a jumper, I still got action at blocking the shot. If I time it (anticipate) correctly, and swipe like Baron did, I can catch the top of the ball as you're bringin it up for the shot and get a clean block.
It's a pretty common play. The fact that Baron took a shoulder to the grill and they went nose to nose afterwards caused Stu to assume it was a retaliatory thing and suspend him.
Watch the video, his right arm flailed to the RIGHT.
Your shooting motion goes outward. In this case Kobe is right handed; If your shot is blocked from the right side but you still have your hands on the ball, you're still trying to fling the ball outward. The only difference here is that you using more force because the momentum of the shot has been impeded. So you're fighting to get the ball towards the rim and the defender is fighting to keep you from doing that.
It's a strength battle at this point. Once the ball pops loose (considering it's the only thing keeping the hands and arms in one place), the added force turns into an exaggerated follow through.
I'm no physics expert, but it's kind of obvious (to me anyway).
Again, if you watch/play enough basketball, you'll understand that, yes he was attempting to block the shot (even if he was hoping he caught a lot of arm along the way
) Even though Stu Jackson watches waaaaaaaaaaay more ball than all of us combined, he might be a little out of touch when it comes to this type of play.Example:
I'm guarding you, and you're in triple threat: You jab step right, and go left. I bite on the jab step and I'm beat.
In this case, if you (the ball handler) take an escape dribble and pull up for a jumper, I still got action at blocking the shot. If I time it (anticipate) correctly, and swipe like Baron did, I can catch the top of the ball as you're bringin it up for the shot and get a clean block.
It's a pretty common play. The fact that Baron took a shoulder to the grill and they went nose to nose afterwards caused Stu to assume it was a retaliatory thing and suspend him.
Watch the video, his right arm flailed to the RIGHT.
Your shooting motion goes outward. In this case Kobe is right handed; If your shot is blocked from the right side but you still have your hands on the ball, you're still trying to fling the ball outward. The only difference here is that you using more force because the momentum of the shot has been impeded. So you're fighting to get the ball towards the rim and the defender is fighting to keep you from doing that.
It's a strength battle at this point. Once the ball pops loose (considering it's the only thing keeping the hands and arms in one place), the added force turns into an exaggerated follow through.
I'm no physics expert, but it's kind of obvious (to me anyway).
MrPeete said:
smh...
Again, if you watch/play enough basketball, you'll understand that, yes he was attempting to block the shot (even if he was hoping he caught a lot of arm along the way ) Even though Stu Jackson watches waaaaaaaaaaay more ball than all of us combined, he might be a little out of touch when it comes to this type of play.
Example:
I'm guarding you, and you're in triple threat: You jab step right, and go left. I bite on the jab step and I'm beat.
In this case, if you (the ball handler) take an escape dribble and pull up for a jumper, I still got action at blocking the shot. If I time it (anticipate) correctly, and swipe like Baron did, I can catch the top of the ball as you're bringin it up for the shot and get a clean block.
It's a pretty common play. The fact that Baron took a shoulder to the grill and they went nose to nose afterwards caused Stu to assume it was a retaliatory thing and suspend him.
Watch the video, his right arm flailed to the RIGHT.
Your shooting motion goes outward. In this case Kobe is right handed; If your shot is blocked from the right side but you still have your hands on the ball, you're still trying to fling the ball outward. The only difference here is that you using more force because the momentum of the shot has been impeded. So you're fighting to get the ball towards the rim and the defender is fighting to keep you from doing that.
It's a strength battle at this point. Once the ball pops loose (considering it's the only thing keeping the hands and arms in one place), the added force turns into an exaggerated follow through.
I'm no physics expert, but it's kind of obvious (to me anyway).
Again, if you watch/play enough basketball, you'll understand that, yes he was attempting to block the shot (even if he was hoping he caught a lot of arm along the way
) Even though Stu Jackson watches waaaaaaaaaaay more ball than all of us combined, he might be a little out of touch when it comes to this type of play.Example:
I'm guarding you, and you're in triple threat: You jab step right, and go left. I bite on the jab step and I'm beat.
In this case, if you (the ball handler) take an escape dribble and pull up for a jumper, I still got action at blocking the shot. If I time it (anticipate) correctly, and swipe like Baron did, I can catch the top of the ball as you're bringin it up for the shot and get a clean block.
It's a pretty common play. The fact that Baron took a shoulder to the grill and they went nose to nose afterwards caused Stu to assume it was a retaliatory thing and suspend him.
Watch the video, his right arm flailed to the RIGHT.
Your shooting motion goes outward. In this case Kobe is right handed; If your shot is blocked from the right side but you still have your hands on the ball, you're still trying to fling the ball outward. The only difference here is that you using more force because the momentum of the shot has been impeded. So you're fighting to get the ball towards the rim and the defender is fighting to keep you from doing that.
It's a strength battle at this point. Once the ball pops loose (considering it's the only thing keeping the hands and arms in one place), the added force turns into an exaggerated follow through.
I'm no physics expert, but it's kind of obvious (to me anyway).
Back to Kobe, my bad I messed up with my right and left with his. I see what your saying and I agree to a certain extent. Kobe knew he was there and I don't doubt he created the contact, but doubt he did it in a harmful manner. I still hate Kobe, and I really try and like the dude but he keeps pulling me back.
I know, I agree. Do I think Baron should have gotten suspended? No. Had he connected on a hard foul on a jump shot, I'd give him a flagrant or T. I understand hard fouls going into the paint but from behind on a jumpshot? That's unsportsmanlike conduct lol. I was thinking Baron was going to get suspended because I was keeping in mind the new league rules. I sure as hell thought LeBron was going to get suspended. He didn't even touch the ball and was no where near it. I guess Jackson didn't suspend LBJ because LeBron apologized but I don't know. Kobe apologized to Manu and still got suspended so I don't know.