Jive-talking twin Transformers raise race issues
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it is portrayed because it is funny. maybee not to you and that is fine. you have a right to an opinion like us all. no harm in disagreement. it is a stereotype but not a rallying cry for other racist organizations to blow it out of proportion and think someone is taking a jab at african americans. shea summed it up above.
And those who use it as a rallying cry are also entitled to their opinion.
Maybe they see an accumulation of stuff like this and they feel they need to say something. Why they may chose THIS particular movie to kick off their argument should be questioned if anything.
Like I said earlier (might be in this or another thread), the biggest problem to me is that those who view these characters as perpetuating a stereotype, assume they are automatically immitating black folks.
Maybe they see an accumulation of stuff like this and they feel they need to say something. Why they may chose THIS particular movie to kick off their argument should be questioned if anything.
Like I said earlier (might be in this or another thread), the biggest problem to me is that those who view these characters as perpetuating a stereotype, assume they are automatically immitating black folks.
you are right. i'm not disagreeing. my point is that some minority individuals/organization stir the pot every chance they get. promoting the same racist behavior they supposedly oppose. i am color blind and have folks of all races. i am not blind to the oppression one time promoted in this country but that is generations ago. now it's an economic divide more than anything. minorities havent recovered completely from those racist times and now our government should reach out when economically feasible and provide resources and more importantly HOPE to those communities they seemingly left to fend for themselves. a movie is entertainment. nothing more, nothing less.
Native Americans and Asians do complain they just aren't the leading minorities// whites can be portrayed negatively but since there are so many positive depictions of white people out there, a negative attributed white person/character is looked at as an individual, not so much minority groups.
It's funny cuz some of the same shit you are saying SHEA, white folks were saying about blacks complaining, back in the day, about being portrayed as mammys, shuckin and jivin, blackface, and stuff that you would consider to be really racist. It's not hard to balance shit out, you say Optimus Prime sounds like a corny white dude, wel almost all the other transformers have white voices and they don't have corny white voices. There's one black transformer and he's all talking some jive bullshit.
You guys are even missing the irony that the film makers pointed out unknowingly... they said, if a transformer were to actually scan human media this would be the depiction of gangstas, urban culture, etc. (coding: black people- because there are other kind of gangsters who don't talk ebonics). You know what that means, the media acknowledges there is one kind of overwhelming depiction of blacks, and it's not a normal, or intelligent one.
It's funny cuz some of the same shit you are saying SHEA, white folks were saying about blacks complaining, back in the day, about being portrayed as mammys, shuckin and jivin, blackface, and stuff that you would consider to be really racist. It's not hard to balance shit out, you say Optimus Prime sounds like a corny white dude, wel almost all the other transformers have white voices and they don't have corny white voices. There's one black transformer and he's all talking some jive bullshit.
You guys are even missing the irony that the film makers pointed out unknowingly... they said, if a transformer were to actually scan human media this would be the depiction of gangstas, urban culture, etc. (coding: black people- because there are other kind of gangsters who don't talk ebonics). You know what that means, the media acknowledges there is one kind of overwhelming depiction of blacks, and it's not a normal, or intelligent one.