Israel is going to bomb Iran in the coming weeks . . . if . . .
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I really don't care if you agree with me or not, but I wouldn't know because you won't even answer basic questions relating to the topic at hand. If you can't do that, you don't participate, and intentionally try to disrupt the discussion you're going to be called a troll.
Matter of fact, the only reason I know I don't agree with you is because you spend so much time trolling telling people they don't agree with you rather than supplying substance.
Matter of fact, the only reason I know I don't agree with you is because you spend so much time trolling telling people they don't agree with you rather than supplying substance.
Fox is the only news i watch and it has the highest ratings with not only Neilson(beating out CNN, MSNBC, & HN combined), but also the ABA.
The good thing is whatever happens falls on Obama. Israel attacks and we look like traitors to the Islamic world. Israel doesn't and Iran gets a working reactor and Republicans take back office in November of this year and win the presidency in 2012.
The good thing is whatever happens falls on Obama. Israel attacks and we look like traitors to the Islamic world. Israel doesn't and Iran gets a working reactor and Republicans take back office in November of this year and win the presidency in 2012.
I try to see things both ways when looking at world issues and try not to let either party get in the way of thinking. I see nothing good coming out of either alternative. If isreal doesn't bomb then we will at least have to wonder for years to come if they will actually build a bomb. U.s. and isreal will lose face to most of the world (not like there is alot left to lose for either).
Now if they do bomb it, I think that there is most definitely going to be a war. No matter how big and bad israels military is. The country is tiny and will not be able to continue war with iran let alone any other arab nation that joins in. israel would cease to exist and that's what most arab nations want.
Either way its F.U.B.A.R. all i know is that the balance of power is swaying and could end up on either end. I don't even know if we should be supporting isreal. I know they are our only friend in the region but why would we blindly support a country which is obviously against many ideals of this country and constitution? Can someone explain why we have such a lopsided (monetary) relationship or any relationship at all with them without using God or anything from the bible in your answer? We are supposed to have seperation of church and state but it seems like that is the sole reasoning behind blindly supporting then.
Sorry to get off on a rant but I think times are changing and something big is going to happen soon with all the tension building in the world and history always repeats itself.
Now if they do bomb it, I think that there is most definitely going to be a war. No matter how big and bad israels military is. The country is tiny and will not be able to continue war with iran let alone any other arab nation that joins in. israel would cease to exist and that's what most arab nations want.
Either way its F.U.B.A.R. all i know is that the balance of power is swaying and could end up on either end. I don't even know if we should be supporting isreal. I know they are our only friend in the region but why would we blindly support a country which is obviously against many ideals of this country and constitution? Can someone explain why we have such a lopsided (monetary) relationship or any relationship at all with them without using God or anything from the bible in your answer? We are supposed to have seperation of church and state but it seems like that is the sole reasoning behind blindly supporting then.
Sorry to get off on a rant but I think times are changing and something big is going to happen soon with all the tension building in the world and history always repeats itself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
Plus they would have they help of America,,England, Germany, France, Japan, Italy, Canada, Australia and just about any other Judeo-Christian country with a military that matters would help Israel. China won't care and will keep truckin. They could go after Japan, but there isn't any real reason to. Russia would be the country in the biggest predicament, but I think they would lean to siding with Israel.
Even pussy France has said they would use nuclear force if Iran tried anything stupid sgainst Israel. That's some shit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
Plus they would have they help of America,,England, Germany, France, Japan, Italy, Canada, Australia and just about any other Judeo-Christian country with a military that matters would help Israel. China won't care and will keep truckin. They could go after Japan, but there isn't any real reason to. Russia would be the country in the biggest predicament, but I think they would lean to siding with Israel.
Even pussy France has said they would use nuclear force if Iran tried anything stupid sgainst Israel. That's some shit.
These Islamic states you so openly bash are just as identified with their beliefs as you are.. with just as much vigor, conviction and passion. As long as there is contrasting identification with beliefs there will never be peace... one side will never "win" over the other. The one thing you should always remember is that ideas are bulletproof... especially those with the magnitude of these religions. In your ignorance you actually believe one side is better than the other... that one side is right, and one is wrong. There is no right or wrong... it's all belief.. which is inseparable from opinion. These wars will never end... no side will ever prevail... no peace will ever be had... no one will ever get the point... no on will be converted... no one will get the picture... the only way this ends is when the whole of humanity erases itself off the face of the planet due to its unfathomable stupidity and ignorance identifying with these archaic belief systems.
Heres "these people" you speak of... born and bred into war.
Heres "these people" you speak of... born and bred into war.
True... not saying my statements are "right" either.. they are of course my opinion as well and any thought reference point i've attached to is by default a belief no doubt. But what it comes down to is finding the path of least resistance or the path that ends the seed of ignorance.. it's a view that serves to remove what that creates the separations and divisions that lead to conflict.
If you look at these "beliefs" and "belief systems" as cultural conditioning... strictly.. then the location of where you are born on the planet and who you are exposed to in your years of development have created who you take yourself to be. If Mr. Diamond or Timm were born in an Islamic country then they would be practicing Muslims..
we attach to ideas and concepts, turn them into beliefs and opinions.. and mistake them for ultimate truths. And then believing we know the truth we go out into the world and form relationships or disputes with others based on these reference points. These relationships are a mirror: If someone mirrors back your own beliefs and ideas you attach to them.. if someone doesn't mirror you then there's aversion. And depending on the subject matter cause and effect of the attachment or aversions escalate. And the escalation explodes when alot of people who mirror each other start to group together. With organized groups you now have huge masses of people representing the same formula inside yourself. Instead of person A and person B in dispute it becomes Group A and Group B in dispute.
And this goes back to seeking acceptance like that thread that was on here before. People want to reify their beliefs and feel they have the "right" idea or concept and having others who believe the same thing makes you feel good. People who attach to ideas that are less popular become outcasts and are persecuted.. made fun of.. you see that in school as a child. This is all human nature playing itself out. If you begin to break it all down it becomes almost comical.
But instead of looking at the whole formula playing out and trying to cut it from the root.. people try to come at it from "one side" of the separation believing they have the truth. It's like the idea of the mythical hydra head (and i'm sure the story of this creature represents this idea) you can't just try to cut off the heads of the hydra. The hydra has to be killed at its center. The problem has to be addressed at the root and cut at the root. If cut at the root the whole problem falls flat on its face... its a house of cards with a domino effect all the way through the whole spectrum. Coming at the problem from one side is likened to trying to solve a problem in a dream... you have to see that its a dream.. people have to wake up and until they do they'll keep dreaming they have the answer and dreaming they're finding solutions(which is making everyone think they way they think because they're weak minded fools and need everyone to mirror them so they feel validated). The tragedy is that its not a dream in its application... people are dying.. being murdered and killed for these beliefs. But thats just the way things are and until people want to change there won't be change... so accept what is or suffer.. even though alot of what is, is suffering 100 fold.
And thats of course, my opinion.
If you look at these "beliefs" and "belief systems" as cultural conditioning... strictly.. then the location of where you are born on the planet and who you are exposed to in your years of development have created who you take yourself to be. If Mr. Diamond or Timm were born in an Islamic country then they would be practicing Muslims..
we attach to ideas and concepts, turn them into beliefs and opinions.. and mistake them for ultimate truths. And then believing we know the truth we go out into the world and form relationships or disputes with others based on these reference points. These relationships are a mirror: If someone mirrors back your own beliefs and ideas you attach to them.. if someone doesn't mirror you then there's aversion. And depending on the subject matter cause and effect of the attachment or aversions escalate. And the escalation explodes when alot of people who mirror each other start to group together. With organized groups you now have huge masses of people representing the same formula inside yourself. Instead of person A and person B in dispute it becomes Group A and Group B in dispute.
And this goes back to seeking acceptance like that thread that was on here before. People want to reify their beliefs and feel they have the "right" idea or concept and having others who believe the same thing makes you feel good. People who attach to ideas that are less popular become outcasts and are persecuted.. made fun of.. you see that in school as a child. This is all human nature playing itself out. If you begin to break it all down it becomes almost comical.
But instead of looking at the whole formula playing out and trying to cut it from the root.. people try to come at it from "one side" of the separation believing they have the truth. It's like the idea of the mythical hydra head (and i'm sure the story of this creature represents this idea) you can't just try to cut off the heads of the hydra. The hydra has to be killed at its center. The problem has to be addressed at the root and cut at the root. If cut at the root the whole problem falls flat on its face... its a house of cards with a domino effect all the way through the whole spectrum. Coming at the problem from one side is likened to trying to solve a problem in a dream... you have to see that its a dream.. people have to wake up and until they do they'll keep dreaming they have the answer and dreaming they're finding solutions(which is making everyone think they way they think because they're weak minded fools and need everyone to mirror them so they feel validated). The tragedy is that its not a dream in its application... people are dying.. being murdered and killed for these beliefs. But thats just the way things are and until people want to change there won't be change... so accept what is or suffer.. even though alot of what is, is suffering 100 fold.
And thats of course, my opinion.