Iraqi Soldier Who Killed U.S. Troops is a Hero

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The story of an Iraqi soldier defending a pregnant woman against U.S. troops is front page news in Iraq.

The recent killing of two U.S. soldiers by their Iraqi colleague has raised disturbing questions about U.S. military relations with the Iraqis they work with.

On Dec. 26, an Iraqi soldier opened fire on U.S. soldiers accompanying him during a joint military patrol in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul. He killed the U.S. captain and another sergeant, and wounded three others, including an Iraqi interpreter.

Conflicting versions of the killing have arisen. Col. Hazim al-Juboory, uncle of the attacker Kaissar Saady al-Juboory, told IPS that his nephew at first watched the U.S. soldiers beat up an Iraqi woman. When he asked them to stop, they refused, so he opened fire.

"Kaissar is a professional soldier who revolted against the Americans when they dragged a woman by her hair in a brutal way," Col. Juboory said. "He is a tribal man, and an Arab with honor who would not accept such behavior. He killed his captain and sergeant knowing that he would be executed."

Others gave IPS a similar account. "I was there when the American captain and his soldiers raided a neighborhood and started shouting at women to tell them where some men they wanted were," a resident of Mosul, speaking on condition of anonymity, told IPS on phone. "The women told them they did not know, and their men did not do anything wrong, and started crying in fear."

The witness said the U.S. captain began to shout at his soldiers and the women, and his men then started to grab the women and pull them by their hair.

"The soldier we knew later to be Kaissar shouted at the Americans, 'No, no,' but the captain shouted back at the Iraqi soldier," the witness told IPS. "Then the Iraqi soldier shouted, 'Let go of the women, you sons of bitches,' and started shooting at them." The soldier, he said, then ran off.

The Association of Muslim Scholars, a Sunni organization, issued a statement saying the Iraqi soldier had shot the U.S. soldiers after he saw them beat up a pregnant woman.

"His blood rose and he asked the occupying soldiers to stop beating the woman," they said in the statement. "Their answer through the translator was: 'We will do what we want.' So he opened fire on them."

The story was first reported on al-Rafidain satellite channel. That started Iraqis from all over the country talking about "the hero" who sacrificed his life for Iraqi honor.

The U.S. and Iraqi military told a different version of the story.

An Iraqi general told reporters that Kaissar carried out the attack because he had links to "Sunni Arab insurgent groups."

"Soldier Kaissar Saady worked for insurgent groups who pushed him to learn army movements and warn his comrades about them," a captain of the second Iraqi army division told IPS. "There are so many like him in the army and now within the so-called Awakening forces (militias funded by the U.S. military)."

One army officer speaking on condition of anonymity described Kaissar's act as heroic. "Those Americans learned their lesson once more."

Sheikh Juma' al-Dawar, chief of the major al-Baggara tribe in Iraq, told IPS in Baghdad that "Kaissar is from the al-Juboor tribes in Gayara -- tribes with morals that Americans do not understand."

The tribal chief added, "Juboor tribes and all other tribes are proud of Kaissar and what he did by killing the American soldiers. Now he is a hero, with a name that will never be forgotten."

Many Iraqis speak in similar vein. "It is another example of Iraqi people's unity despite political conspiracies by the Americans and their tails (collaborators)," Mohammad Nassir, an independent politician in Baghdad told IPS. "Kaissar is loved by all Iraqis who pray for his safety and who are ready to donate anything for his welfare."

Col. Juboory said Kaissar who had at first accepted collaboration with the U.S. forces "found the truth too bitter to put up with." The colonel said: "I worked with the Americans because being an army officer is my job, and also because I was convinced they would help Iraqis. But 11 months was enough for me to realize that starving to death is more honorable than serving the occupiers. They were mean in every way."

Independent sources have since told IPS that Kaissar was captured by a special joint Iraqi-U.S. force, and he is now being held and tortured at the al-Ghizlany military camp in Mosul.

Despite a recent decline in the number of occupation forces being killed, 2007 was the deadliest year of the occupation for U.S. troops, with 901 killed, according to the U.S. Department of Defense.

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You're right. but then again so is anyone who has killed a person, including a lot of those americans serving in iraq.

who knows what's true......although it looks like its all the truth since they threw in the "he has ties to insurgents" line in there to try to defend the americans who are gonna torture/kill him
 

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That's correct, but you say it like it's a bad thing in this situation, or that's what I get out of it.

If he was defending a pregnant woman, or just a woman, GOOD for him. Fuck those American troops if they're beating kids, women, or anything like that.

It's not like we went their legally (based on our constitution) anyway. So every troop over there should have a price on their head. It sucks, but that's what you get for following a fucking piece of shit country like the US and signing your life away. It's sad but that's what those people chose to do for whatever reason.

I hope more Iraqis take initiative and defend their own people, even if it is against the US.

And that's shitty he's being tortured. Not surprising though.
 
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^the good ol "if you're not with us you're against us"
well you live in America, you enjoy the freedoms that you have and the US Army protects those freedoms, so yea you should support the army. Whether you support the war or not, you should still support the troops.
 

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well you live in America, you enjoy the freedoms that you have and the US Army protects those freedoms, so yea you should support the army. Whether you support the war or not, you should still support the troops.

even if those troops have been accused of raping women??
 
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well this is America, and if your a true american (whether you agree with the war or not) you should be pro-US army
Anyone who kills a US or British troop in Iraq is a hero. Regardless of the situation. If you consider yourself "pro-amerikan" you'd think the same.

I don't want troops to die, but these people got to do what is right, and this is kill off the invaders. Bring the US troops home immediately, yes, but while they are occupying foreign land, I hope the Iraqi's can kill as many as possible.
 
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well this is America, and if your a true american (whether you agree with the war or not) you should be pro-US army
LOL...oh, youre so lost its sad...

who do you think dumbass? the guy who shot the soliderz in the back
Why is he a traitor, dumbass? A traitor to who, dumbass? Please explain your answer, dumbass...
 
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well you live in America, you enjoy the freedoms that you have and the US Army protects those freedoms, so yea you should support the army. Whether you support the war or not, you should still support the troops.


those freedoms are at the expense of others ;children,women, every person murderd in the name of the usa is on our hands , we drink the blood everyday
 
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1 iraqi soldier + 4 american troops = there on the same side.killz -2 soldiers on hiz side so he betrayed them
You obviously didnt read the story close enough...

He is an Iraqi FIRST....he belongs to a tribe. When you see outsiders that have come into your country and bascially hold it hostage, drag one of YOUR people out (a pregnanat WOMAN none-the-less), and then proceed to BEAT her...i can tell you right now he severed those ties REAL quick.

LOL @ "their on the same side"

I mean, really?

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