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like miggidy says...back in the days people use to have almost perfect bodies and live up to about 800 900 years old till later on when alot of people started sufferin from everything such as War, drugs and all kinds of sicc shit...why do ya'll think theres AIDS, cancer and all that other types of diseases and shit in this world? think about it...
 
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This is complete madness!!!!!

Ok Yehuda, I'm supposed to believe in a flood? And what flood was this? I hope your not talking about the little Noah’s arch story.

And what does EVOLUTION have to do with the First Law Of Thermodynamics???

"then how did the earth get here"

Hmmm, are you suggesting planets just magically appear by god?

I'm sure the formation of Earth and the Universe for that matter had nothing to do with the protons, neutrons, and electrons—the building blocks of atoms—forming when photons collided and converted their energy into mass. Oh, that would be just plain silly.

It is funny how you evolutionists change your theories alot, the Belgian Astronomer Georges Edward Lemaitre who created the Big Bang theory first said the matter that exploded, was nothing more than a few light years in diameter, now over the years you guys have changed it around 4 times, finally coming to the conclusion that nothing exploded. Wow, nothing
Oh, you sure got us there! Of course theories will change as time goes on; TECHNOLOGY is advancing at a rapid rate so of course this means theories will be modified. New things are being discovered and studied everyday. Dark matter, anyone?

And WHO came to the conclusion that nothing exploded??? You? There are three main reasons to believe in the big-bang theory. (None of which have been proven false!) First, and most obvious, the universe is expanding. Second, the theory predicts that 25 percent of the total mass of the universe should be the helium that formed during the first few minutes, an amount that agrees with observations. Finally, and most convincing, is the presence of the cosmic background radiation. The big-bang theory predicted this remnant radiation, which now glows at a temperature just 3 degrees above absolute zero, well before radio astronomers chanced upon it.

Of course there are people who don’t believe in the big bang or other "blasphemous" beliefs, but let us not forget that a diehard core of flat earth believers persisted even past the days of the Apollo Moon missions.

"THATS BECAUSE GOD MADE IT THAT WAY TO MAKE YOUR EVOLUTION THEORY LOOK STUPID. STOP PREACHING THIS RELIGIOUS EVOLUTION CRAP. SCIENCE IS SOMETHING WE CAN TEST AND PROVE, EVOLUTION IS NOTHING MORE THAN WISHFUL THINKING."

Once again, WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH EVOLUTION?!?!?!?!

Religion is nothing more than wishful thinking. How else can you explain 900 year old men, floods that cover the earth and boats that hold all of life? This is wishful thinking. You might as well throw science and logic out the window.
 
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Yehuda said:
Man athiests have the most faith in their beliefs outta everyone else, they believe that nothing exploded and here we are. amazing people lol...
I have faith? I have absolutely NO faith what so ever. YOU have faith. I do not need faith in order for my beliefs to stay true. And WHO says I dont believe in an explosion, YOU?
 
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Yehuda said:
a Law in physics called the "Conservation of Angular Momentum" states that "if a spinning object breaks apart in a frictionless environment like the big bang would have been, then all of the fragments would be spinning in the same direction" Okay then, but WHY ARE THERE 2-3 PLANETS SPINNING BACKWARDS?
Explain that to me.
 
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It’s clear that you have no knowledge of how planets form, and you probably are mystified by the formation of any object in space. Planet formation theory is no longer a mystery, as there are actual photos of it occurring from the Hubble space telescope (see below). Planets, like stars, form from clouds of gas. It's pretty simple. Anything that has mass exerts the force of gravity. Each particle in a cloud of gas is gravitationally attracted to one another. Soon a big ball of this mass is collected, and the bigger this ball gets, the more it increases gravitationally. Eventually this ball gets so big that the total gravity of the mass pulls the particles so close together that the heat and energy created by the particles being so close to one another creates an explosion. At the same time, this explosion is trapped by the particles gravity, so nuclear fusion takes place, and we have a sun. Now, this isn't a clean and uniform process. There are big and small collections of mass all around an infant solar system, and they are bound to bump into one another. These huge collisions lead to moon formation, and it is from these collisions that we have planets rotating in different directions. We still get these collisions from the last remnants of planet material in the form of asteroids. Just imagine how big the asteroids were four billion years ago. Big enough to spin a planet or another asteroid in any direction.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
It’s clear that you have no knowledge of how planets form, and you probably are mystified by the formation of any object in space. Planet formation theory is no longer a mystery, as there are actual photos of it occurring from the Hubble space telescope (see below).


Planets, like stars, form from clouds of gas. There are big and small collections of mass all around an infant solar system, and they are bound to bump into one another. These huge collisions lead to moon formation, and it is from these collisions that we have planets rotating in different directions. We still get these collisions from the last remnants of planet material in the form of asteroids. Just imagine how big the asteroids were four billion years ago. Big enough to spin a planet or another asteroid in any direction.
1. I am not mystified because I KNOW that The Lord created everything. Heres something to think on: Universe is two words

Uni - single
Verse - spoken sentence

We live in a single spoken sentence:

Genesis 1
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.


2. Stars have never been seen forming, just exploding (supernova), those pictures look like something is exploding not forming. Have you ever seen these collisions that result in planets moving in different directions? Were you around four billion years ago to see these collisions?
 
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Re: Re: Re: in the bible

2-0-Sixx said:
"This is when people had a close to perfect body."

This is outrageous!

Did the native americans, or egyptions or romans or greeks etc. etc. live 900 years????? They didnt "corrupt" their bodies with "drugs and shit."

Humans are living LONGER due to the fact we have advanced medicines!

People only lived to 30 - 40 years if they were LUCKY!!

egypations drank beer, romans and greeks drank wine like i drink budwiser while fucking like no tomarrow
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
This is complete madness!!!!!

Ok Yehuda, I'm supposed to believe in a flood? And what flood was this? I hope your not talking about the little Noah’s arch story.
I'll let you and Yehuda debate over the technical stuff.
I just wanted to point out that there is some evidence supporting a catastrophic flood.
There's flooded ancient cities every where, through out the world.
Plus fossilized remains of sea life have been found in mountainous regions through out the world.

There, you guys may continue :cool:
 
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According to the bible and science. The reason why people lived up to their 900s is because that there was a vapor layer in space beyond the stratosphere. The layer filtered out very fine microtixins that were visible in the UV rays of the sun, thus causing all plant and human life on earth to exist longer, plus there were no ice caps as the entire continent was tropical at that time.

Then according to scientific hypothesis and reports, an ice meteor crashed into earth disrupting the vapor layer causing the earth to flood for an amount of days from rain in the vapor layer, then the ice caps froze and the world as we know it today was created!
 
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MC_PM$ said:
According to the bible and science. The reason why people lived up to their 900s is because that there was a vapor layer in space beyond the stratosphere. The layer filtered out very fine microtixins that were visible in the UV rays of the sun, thus causing all plant and human life on earth to exist longer, plus there were no ice caps as the entire continent was tropical at that time.
Wonderful :classic:
 
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Yehuda said:
1. I am not mystified because I KNOW that The Lord created everything. Heres something to think on: Universe is two words

Uni - single
Verse - spoken sentence

We live in a single spoken sentence:

Genesis 1
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
So what do you have to say about The law of conservation of angular momentum??? You seemed quite sure this would prove me wrong since you mentioned it twice, but since I have explained this law is NOT in fact in your favor, it seems you have no comment. How interesting.

Thank you for braking down the word Universe. We live in a single spoken sentance. That was beautiful, thank you.


2. Stars have never been seen forming, just exploding (supernova), those pictures look like something is exploding not forming. Have you ever seen these collisions that result in planets moving in different directions? Were you around four billion years ago to see these collisions?
This statement proves my point that you have no knowledge of how planets form. Those pictures may look like something else then they really are to YOU, but IT'S A PROVEN FACT. Please, do yourself a favor and research the topic on the net.
 
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Just to let you guys know, the theory about the flood.... It’s scientifically impossible.

There is this neat little tool human’s use called "Mathematics." This tool can let us calculate things very accurately.

The interesting thing about this tool is that scientists have actually studied the ice caps long enough to know approximately how large (mass) they really are. With mathematics, we then can accurately calculate how much the sea level will rise if these ice caps were to melt. The amazing thing is, THERE IS NOT A HUGE INCREASE IN THE SEA LEVEL!!!

It is IMPOSSIBLE for this ancient flood to have occurred.

What also is IMPOSSIBLE is this magical boat that a few of you are leaving out on this thread. WHY IS THAT? Maybe its because deep, deep down inside you know this Noah's arch thing is just plain ridiculous.

Come on people. Lets put on our thinking caps. Lets SUPPOSE, that even if our ice caps were capable of flooding the planet, do you honestly believe (you don’t have to answer on this thread, just think about it to yourself) that a BOAT, is capable of holding two of each animal and saving them from this flood??? Honestly, think about that for a while.
 
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miggidy, you claim I twist and turn things out of context to make it false, but you desperately try to make it true by doing the same.

And YES i have read most of the bible, I have even discussed it for hours with theologists that has read it in it's original language and looked at it in context with the time it was written in.

But science is just God testing your faith, right?
 
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@ 2-0,
So you are suggesting that if there was a catastrophic flood, it had to be due to the polar caps melting?
Haven't the polar caps always existed?

The bible claims that rain water caused the flood.

@ Droopy, I don't claim you twisted anything around.
The source of the stuff you posted is the spin doctor.

Just exactly how am I desperately twisting things around?
For one thing, I am not desperate. Second, I'm only speaking from what I've learned by reading the bible. So there's no need for me to despare, the answer is biblical kindergarten....

I do not believe that God is testing my faith through science.
God knows my faith, otherwise he wouldn't answer my prayers.
I don't see where science affects my beliefs. Science is immature right now. It's mostly theories....