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prolly...but then how come snoop never got took like that? maybe thats why he turned so damn mainstream, he got a fam now...shit needs to get paid for lol.
 
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lol!! they could have had him hit in jail in new york or let him sit there and rot, instead they set up a multimillion dollar corporation, which by the way had already released two all time classics in chronic and doggystyle before dude ever went to jail, to kill him? this is silly
 

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When u r part of a major lable, I'm sure you heard the term, sold your soul to the devil. That's what pac did when he got out, but then he saw all the bullshit that came with it, and he was goin against it, and that's why he got killed.
Everything we see musically is controlled by the illuminati. Why u think soulja boy got a deal? Wocka flock flame? Lady gaga. Its not a surprise here. Remember back in the 90s we had a good selection of music to pick from. Not a coincidence.
 
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When u r part of a major lable, I'm sure you heard the term, sold your soul to the devil. That's what pac did when he got out, but then he saw all the bullshit that came with it, and he was goin against it, and that's why he got killed.
Everything we see musically is controlled by the illuminati. Why u think soulja boy got a deal? Wocka flock flame? Lady gaga. Its not a surprise here. Remember back in the 90s we had a good selection of music to pick from. Not a coincidence.
Holy Fuckin shit....you been talkin to Slikk Rikk lately?
 
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Also kadafi got killed too cuz he saw who killed pac.


Metro police lost their only willing witness to Tupac's murder. Who killed Kadafi remained unknown to the public until September, 2000 when Napoleon revealed in an interview with The Source that it was his cousin, Roddy, who killed him. Roddy claimed it was an accident. Apparently they were both drunk and high and was playing with a gun, Roddy accidentally pulled the trigger and a bullet hit Kadafi in the head.


That's what pac did when he got out, but then he saw all the bullshit that came with it, and he was goin against it, and that's why he got killed.
He didn't get assassinated by a magic bullet. Him, Suge and Suge's Blood homeboys stomped out Orlando Anderson, a Compton Crip.
Anderson came back and shot up their car, managing to kill 2pac since he in front of the hail of bullets.

Suge even admitted to Sanyika Shakur aka Monster Kody, that it was Baby Lane/Orlando Anderson who killed 2pac.

Later on Baby Lane was killed as well, also gang related.




Everything we see musically is controlled by the illuminati. Why u think soulja boy got a deal? Wocka flock flame? Lady gaga. Its not a surprise here. Remember back in the 90s we had a good selection of music to pick from. Not a coincidence.
From the interview I heard it sounds like 2pac was mocking peoples belief in the illuminati controlling everything.

Soulja Boy got a deal because he made a hit song. It's nothing new. The only reason we think the music's garbage is because we're old.
Same thing the older hip-hop heads thought when they grew up on Sugar Hill Gang, and later on here NWA and shit like, "A Bitch is a Bitch", "Fuck Tha Police" "Gangsta Gangsta" etc. The only difference is they didn't blame, what they thought of as wack music, on the illuminati.



And Lady Gaga???? She's pretty much like the 2010 version of Madonna so I don't know why she WOULDN'T be popular with kids.
 
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the music has been jacked though, no more reality rap, all bubblegum flossin shit. That's a corporate takeover.
Corporations have always been putting out the music, and music is cyclical, just like fashion and fads. People got tired of conscious rap and moved onto gangsta rap. That dominated for awhile then the the Puffy brought out the shiny suit era and duets with R & B singers. Then 50 Cent brought back street rap. Now the soft shit is in again.

And I don't get the inconsistency of these arguments. Deathrow Records was this elaborate plot to get 2pac to do music that portrayed his people in a negative light, and yet he was doing that Thug Life shit before he even signed to Deathrow. THUG LIFE Vol 1 came out in '94 on Interscope.


TimeWarner put out Ice-T's BODY COUNT group album with the song "Cop Killer." If anything, it shows that these corporations will promote anything if they feel they'll profit from it.

Rasan said:
Remember back in the 90s we had a good selection of music to pick from. Not a coincidence.
So, the author of the book claims that Deathrow was a front to get Tupac Shakur and other rappers to make music that was detrimental to the community and yet this is the music you describe as being a high point?
 
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50 didn't bring back st rap, st rap hasn't been on the scene since puffy. Big corporations and whites were not involved in rap like how they got when they saw the power of gangsta rap with the release of the Chronic.
 

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i never said i was the smartest person in the world, but on the same coin, im not the dumbest person either. that shit is just stupid. you wouldnt have to hire black people to do something they do everyday without being paid to do. and trust theres been bigger, way more effective things in place to 'destroy the black man' before death row came about (AKA crack cocaine). LA has had way bigger issues to deal with besides death row as a label and if you lived in southern california and LA in general you probably know that much.

if you want to argue that rap music as a whole, typically gangsta rap, has had negative influences on the black man, i'll go for that. but with that said that gives room to mention to thousands of other things that have played in the downfall of the black man throughout history, whether put in place as a tool of hatred or self-inflicted. gangsta rap, and 'reality rap', has had its effects on people in general. movies, video games, etc etc have as well. thats sort of a wider discussion than just saying 'death row did it!' and its really a bigger discussion than labeling one group like the fbi etc as the sole controller of black hatred. i just hate to see smart discussions fucked off by crackpot theories. might as well say tupac was a lizard-man, too.

and its not gonna stop anyone from making gangster rap, and its not gonna stop anyone from listening, nor is it going to make anyone conciously aware of the messeges they send out, people are still dealing with not snitching on themselves and putting them or their homies in jail over their rap lines...i think having gangsters worry about the social, racial and psychological aspects of gangster rap and death row in general is a little far off to be wishing for.

and tupac was about as much of a black panther as any rapper has been outside of straight-up east coast 5 percenter activism type shit, or like dead prez or something, and i dont see the FBI shooting them in the middle of heavyweight boxing matches
 
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50 didn't bring back st rap, st rap hasn't been on the scene since puffy. Big corporations and whites were not involved in rap like how they got when they saw the power of gangsta rap with the release of the Chronic.
Wasn't Interscope founded by a couple of white guys along with Atlantic Records, which in turn was owned by Warner Communications? The Chronic was distributed through Interscope so it seems like whites and big corporations have been there since back then.

And what was the power of The Chronic? What positive message was it giving to the community that needed to be suppressed by the FBI, the Illuminati, and Soulja Boy?
 
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I said corporartions and whites were not involved in rap on the scale they arfe now especially after chronic dropped, which is true. Chronic's power was that it sold extremely well to everybody and it hardly had anything positive on it, signaling the shift to gangster shit from more conscious rap.