If you were Manny Pacquiao and Floyd called you a "punk"
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Still... Floyd took olympic style testing against a then feared opponent.....
Look breh we ALL know Manny is ur guy, But the truth is that when the paperwork was in his face, and floyd and the whole world were ready, Pac said NO! I noe, I noe, Pac said YES later....
Dosent change the fact that he DENIED to take a test!!!!
If my P.O. gave me a choice to test or not, and i was dirty, I would not test!!!
Look breh we ALL know Manny is ur guy, But the truth is that when the paperwork was in his face, and floyd and the whole world were ready, Pac said NO! I noe, I noe, Pac said YES later....
Dosent change the fact that he DENIED to take a test!!!!
If my P.O. gave me a choice to test or not, and i was dirty, I would not test!!!
He didn't deny to take tests, he agreed to be the most tested boxer in the history of the sport in fact. the first negotiations failed on the cutoff date. Pacquiao still would have been the most tested fighter up to that point in history, period. Later, pacquiao realizing that it's the only way, agreed to all of floyd's demands and floyd wasn't interested....twice. So again I don't know what you want him to do.
Ya'll say pac is "my guy" or whatever but I'm not some delusional fan, I know in a fight it could go either way I've always said floyd could beat pac and vice versa. When people were downplaying floyd's win over mosley I was praising it, saying it was a brilliant performance. I'm unbiased when it comes to fighters skills in the ring. But when people are going to say incorrect shit regarding floyd & pac, I'm going to do my best to correct it.
There are three usual suspects on this forum who CONSTANTLY bash pacquiao and you know who you are. It's the same three people over and over and over again.
Ya'll say pac is "my guy" or whatever but I'm not some delusional fan, I know in a fight it could go either way I've always said floyd could beat pac and vice versa. When people were downplaying floyd's win over mosley I was praising it, saying it was a brilliant performance. I'm unbiased when it comes to fighters skills in the ring. But when people are going to say incorrect shit regarding floyd & pac, I'm going to do my best to correct it.
There are three usual suspects on this forum who CONSTANTLY bash pacquiao and you know who you are. It's the same three people over and over and over again.
Ya I voted for 3.
Manny doesn't really need Floyd though. That would be my mentality too. Why should I subject myself to being scrutinized, verbally abused, and random drug tests...when I don't have to?
My personal opinion has always been that Manny should retire. He's done more than enough. He likes the sport and wants to please his fans, so he continues to box.
Whether they fight each other or not wouldn't really change my viewpoint on either of them, regardless of the outcome.
Manny doesn't really need Floyd though. That would be my mentality too. Why should I subject myself to being scrutinized, verbally abused, and random drug tests...when I don't have to?
My personal opinion has always been that Manny should retire. He's done more than enough. He likes the sport and wants to please his fans, so he continues to box.
Whether they fight each other or not wouldn't really change my viewpoint on either of them, regardless of the outcome.
wow at this topic...this shit is beat to death tony and only a few of yall hold on to the hope that mayweather will someday nut up and step in the ring wit pac. i personally dont really think its gonna happen anymore. if "mayweather" really wanted it and was willing to back up all the shit he talks he wouldve shown and proved the first time. i dont doubt the fact that he can win a fight against pac, but that fool is too scared to risk his unbeaten record to even try.
This shit ain't beat to death. It'll be brought right back up after Pacquiao gets the win over Mosley, speaking of Mosley he's the reason why Floyd wants the olympic style drug testing. Mosley never tested positive either but admitted to taking some shit from Balco before the De La Hoya fight. They should've changed that to a contest, De La Hoya fougth a juiced fighter.
This is the dumbest fucking thing I've seen in this forum. Seriously? This is a grown man million dollar business it isn't 2 little kids arguing over some pussy in high school.
If someone called me a punk and then punked me into taking a drug test that no one takes then wouldn't that still make me a punk for kneeling to his demands? I don't give a shit about the squabbles of rich men, they just need to settle it in the ring. That's it, whatever they do to get to that point I could give a fuck.
If someone called me a punk and then punked me into taking a drug test that no one takes then wouldn't that still make me a punk for kneeling to his demands? I don't give a shit about the squabbles of rich men, they just need to settle it in the ring. That's it, whatever they do to get to that point I could give a fuck.
What the hell kind of topic/question is this? This is the reason why I usually stick to boxing sites/forums to discuss boxing. Even the Floyd dickriders over there have come to the realization that Floyd is making every excuse not to fight Manny. If he was "the greatest" and so confident that he will beat the "midget's" ass then he would have signed to fight the man under the rules of the state athletic commision. You know they drug test too right? Some people make it seem like there's no testing whatsoever. He know's his claim to fame is his record, and his ego won't allow him to put that record in jeopardy. Fucking Floyd, man. Take the fight! As much as I would like to see Manny beat Floyd's ass, I'd still pick Floyd to beat him.
Everthing for this fight was agreed upon.. Pacman wanted an earlier fight, floyd agreed.. Pacman wanted an astronomical wieght penalty.. 10 million a pound, Floyd agreed, though floyd asks for random blood tests u pacman fans start crying he never wanted to fight him.. Then why come this far, floyd called him out.. What is wrong with asking him to prove he is clean? No one else has been able to do what he has.. Marion jones passed olympic tests and was guilty.. Shane mosley ring a bell, the sport isnt clean. Mabye none are these days. Take the test instead of threatening legal action and pulling out of the fight.. I thought floyd would be the one to make things hard.. The way things are going it looks like pacman wants out of the fight.. Seriously, look at his excuses.. What have the mayweathers done to ruin the fight, oh they hurt his feelings.. Why not man up prove him wrong and then knock him out if u are legit. Even now the mayweather team still wants the fight.. Bob Arum however has made a last offer which wasnt even a sincere attempt to salvage the fight.. He suggested that the nevada commission do the tests, he knows they wont test a fighter within 30days of a fight and not in the middle of the night.. Arum is a big part of the problem
I will agree and state there are ways to slide under the radar.
Just one thing though Tony, there is no such thing as an undetectable PED. There are PED's that have a much shorter half life than others, that's all it is. The window to detect it is too short. Either that, or it's just not screened for because they don't feel there is a reason to, in which case it wouldn't matter anyways.
The quickest acting test esther is suspension. Generally, it has a half life of about 12 hours. It really depends on the maker, but on average it's around 12 hours. Next up is test prop, which is still short, about 3 days.
Then you have GH, which is pretty much in and out in about 15 minutes.
Most other major chems are detectable for much longer. Months, and some more than a year.
So Floyd's requests, to me, are warranted...to an extent. In my eyes, he's taking it a little too far. Whatever though, it's his right.
Just one thing though Tony, there is no such thing as an undetectable PED. There are PED's that have a much shorter half life than others, that's all it is. The window to detect it is too short. Either that, or it's just not screened for because they don't feel there is a reason to, in which case it wouldn't matter anyways.
The quickest acting test esther is suspension. Generally, it has a half life of about 12 hours. It really depends on the maker, but on average it's around 12 hours. Next up is test prop, which is still short, about 3 days.
Then you have GH, which is pretty much in and out in about 15 minutes.
Most other major chems are detectable for much longer. Months, and some more than a year.
So Floyd's requests, to me, are warranted...to an extent. In my eyes, he's taking it a little too far. Whatever though, it's his right.
Mosley doped big and passed every test the state commission gave to him. I see why Floyd wants random with no cut off..... people dope and then when they get caught they act like they didn't know what they were takin' or injecting themselves. The commissions testing isn't good enough obviously.
Ironlungs made great points, just read his reply.
Ironlungs made great points, just read his reply.