I was just thinking about this(about Alien existence)

[ThaG]

So how is Darwin's opinion anymore valid than Newton's? Which was the point..





There is no evidence that life spontaneously created its self, so please sweep that under the rug please, Newton's statements stand. Ad hominem fallacies as it concerns a long dead scientist, where they don't apply are rather pathetic.

There is plenty of evidence and it is in each of your cells as well as in numerous eppendorf tubes in many labs around the world

It takes a little effort to go and look for it though:ermm:

 

[ParkBoyz]

Darwin was as much an expert in biology as it was possible to be at his time

What does it have to do with chemical evolution and the origin of life, which you so adamantly made the dichotomy between it and evolution theory?

That's why he was the one who made the giant step forward and that's why he is the most influential scientist and the greatest biologist of all times

Overstatement and subjective opinion. Giant steps prove nothing, especially random creation.

He didn't know the exact mechanism of generation of variation because even the concept of the gene as such was not there yet, but he ingeniously pointed one of the mechanisms by which evolution acts which is quite a feat considering how little was known then

What does natural selection have to do with Newton's quote?

It is those discoveries that are made with the most limited amount of knowledge possible that are the greatest and most difficult to make ones

So? Meaning that Newton must have been even greater than Darwin..

 

[ParkBoyz]

There is plenty of evidence and it is in each of your cells as well as in numerous eppendorf tubes in many labs around the world

How is this evidence for the origin of life being guided by random processes? Stop talking out of your anus please, thank you.

It takes a little effort to go and look for it though:ermm:

Yea, like traveling back in time to the point of inception.:ermm:

 

[ThaG]

What does it have to do with chemical evolution and the origin of life, which you so adamantly made the dichotomy between it and evolution theory?



Overstatement and subjective opinion. Giant steps prove nothing, especially random creation.

they definitely don't prove random CREATION, here you're 100% right

I suggest that you remove the word CREATION from your vocabulary, especially when you discuss scientific issues:ermm:

What does natural selection have to do with Newton's quote?

a lot

it proves him wrong

So? Meaning that Newton must have been even greater than Darwin..

Depending on the point of view...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_v._Leibniz_calculus_controversy

 

[Toro]

Thanks for the link ParkBoyz, but do you know anything or have a link on the rocket ship like hieroglyphics?

 

[ThaG]

How is this evidence for the origin of life being guided by random processes? Stop talking out of your anus please, thank you.



Yea, like traveling back in time to the point of inception.:ermm:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...=501045&md5=2a695357b251bad5259a989bec164619#

http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...d=501045&md5=0117ff5df28762303ba5c35ad977daa1

http://www.springerlink.com/content/m17k1608441623t4/fulltext.pdf

PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION HERE:

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/reprint/269/5222/364
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/reprint/261/5127/1411

 

[ParkBoyz]

^Random enzyme assembly? I'm not sure how that accounts for the actual information in the cell; DNA and RNA molecules themselves, in the form of assembly instructions.(?) We haven't theoretically accounted for the first living cell and this doesn't bring us any closer, so I have no idea why you posted it.

See: Meyer, S. C. DNA and the origin of life: Information, specification and explanation, in Darwinism, Design, & Public Education (Michigan State University Press, 2003, Pp. 223-285)

 

[ParkBoyz]

they definitely don't prove random CREATION, here you're 100% right

Irrelevant..

I suggest that you remove the word CREATION from your vocabulary, especially when you discuss scientific issues:ermm:

Will disregard petty suggestion based on dogmatic restriction to established predetermined jargon.

a lot

it proves him wrong

No, chemical evolution and biological evolution are two different things though, so how would a theory of natural selection provide anything by way of "proof"(especially when there is nothing to "select")? Use common sense.

Depending on the point of view...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_v._Leibniz_calculus_controversy

I mean according to the standards you presented, and I'm pretty confident in my assertion that Newton is a probably the slightly more highly regarded figure and is more mainstream friendly. But besides the point..

Anyways.. This guy right here kills atheism and any views that resemble it: http://www.harunyahya.com/

^And this is the wrong thread for this so I'm not going to go on and on about why your belief is stupid or isn't since there's no reason to mess up this thread with 3-4 pages of irrelevancies.

 

[ParkBoyz]

Thanks for the link ParkBoyz, but do you know anything or have a link on the rocket ship like hieroglyphics?

No doubt.. I'm not sure what you're referring to at the moment, I didn't notice any rocket ship

 

[JLMACN]

hold up....hold up...hold up..

could someone define "nothing" for me?

what does Nothing mean in Newtons theory?

Last time I heard, (cant say checked) Bacteria has life!?

5000

 

[Nebulizah]

 

[Toro]

I can't find a picture of the rocket ship one, but that one came up in a search.

 

[ParkBoyz]

^Well, more than likely it isn't a rocket ship and is merely a symbol or illustration that you may not understand.

A testament to how easily people can be deceived and it seems that the lotus plant is just that tricky. Again, this is from the 5th dynasty tomb of Ptah-Hotep and depicts an image of a lotus flower with two of its buds (not eyes) sticking out on both sides of a large vase (not an alien body).

^The image that you provided above was rather blurry and isolated..

 

[JLMACN]

^^^ you just had to ruin my burst of laughter!

damn you...

 

[ParkBoyz]

^LOL

 

[Nebulizah]

lmao... I'll keep lookin... until then, carry on....

 

[ParkBoyz]

I'll keep lookin...

I'll be waiting..

 

[Cmoke]

The best explanation is the easiest one to come up with

this would explain your religous beliefs, this type of thinking.

 

[taetae]

 

[ParkBoyz]

this would explain your religous beliefs, this type of thinking.

Trolls quoting out of context will be disregarded. Who are you anyways; am I supposed to know you?