I may take heat for this question but.......(MMA related)

[KrazeeRDM]

Im not going to even argue about how much MMA I have watched the last 4-5 years. I watched MMA big time before that for about 4-5 years, but got turned off because all UFC did was produce random drunk-cocaine abusing-men to try and be fighters. Couldn't even go to a bar and watch a UFC fight without 5 people wanting to fight at anytime, so yes I will admit I haven't watched a whole lot of MMA the last couple of years.

I guess the fight that sticks out in my head was this past weekend.....the McDonald fight. I thought He knocked out the mexican cat pretty clean with the upper cut, then he dropped like 2-3 bombs right on his chin. Perhaps that's not the best example of what I am talking about but forgive me because I am not about to go and find a bunch of clips to prove any point. I believe everyone in the thread knows what I am talking about and I was just trying to get your thoughts on it.

No I haven't trained MMA, but who gives a fuck? No, I have never fought in the Octagon but so hasn't 99% of the worlds population. I am strickly speaking as partial fan and observer.

I know and you all know it has happened. I just think UFC should really watch it......that's all.

Could really fuck someone up for life.

i didnt ask if you fought in MMA before lol. i never did and i understand it fully. i have trained a lil in boxing when i was young but that didnt teach me much about what we'e talking about.

"all UFC did was produce random drunk-cocaine abusing-men to try and be fighters" really? that's like saying the NFL is a pit in hell because people like warren sapp and Michael Irving came from it. I got into UFC not knowing much about it, i thought it would be guys trying to kill each other and was pumped to watch it. but then i started understanding it more and more as a sport and that's when i realized it gets a bad rep and it's nothing like what the main public thought about it. sure there's going to be late stoppages but for every late stoppage i've equally scene people comeback and win off what looked like a vicious knockout.

 

[KrazeeRDM]

look at where the ref is at tho, they look at a a fighters eyes to see where they're at, and clearly he was blocced by the fighters bacc...no shit he was out tho, but as a "professional referee" that's what they have to look for.


that gif really does no justice tho, as you see the ref is running in to save him, he landed one little shot on the ground.

but you can see he's running to go stop it. he's going to the side to get right in the middle so if more punches are thrown he gets hit with them.

 

[Irishmutt]

If a referee notices that a guy lost his consciousness and lets the fight continue because the fighter woke back up with punches and lets it continue based on that reason that referee should be fired. No way a referee should NOTICE a guy go out and sit there to see if he wakes back up, that's as ridiculous of a thing that I've ever heard.

All i can say it happens all the time in MMA where a guy gets rocked and looks to be knocked out then comes back to win it. i havent seen it so much in boxing because the refs jump in as soon as someone gets woobly (punch drunk) but it truly is something that does happen alot in MMA. Even to the point where the guy raining the punches down gets gassed and the guy getting punch makes the transition to the agressor and wins the fight.

There are going to be differences of opinions on this where someone who is a boxing fan gets appalled by the amount that the refs let the fighters go in mma as opposed to boxing. there have also been instances where the refs stop the fight too soon and catch a bunch of flak for it. it truly is a judgement call it is all in the eyes of the beholder. To each their own.

 

[RM211]

but you can see he's running to go stop it. he's going to the side to get right in the middle so if more punches are thrown he gets hit with them.

thats what i just said...

 

[naner12]

All i can say it happens all the time in MMA where a guy gets rocked and looks to be knocked out then comes back to win it. i havent seen it so much in boxing because the refs jump in as soon as someone gets woobly (punch drunk) but it truly is something that does happen alot in MMA. Even to the point where the guy raining the punches down gets gassed and the guy getting punch makes the transition to the agressor and wins the fight.

There are going to be differences of opinions on this where someone who is a boxing fan gets appalled by the amount that the refs let the fighters go in mma as opposed to boxing. there have also been instances where the refs stop the fight too soon and catch a bunch of flak for it. it truly is a judgement call it is all in the eyes of the beholder. To each their own.

That judgement is not in the eyes on the beholder. I'm not saying that guys shouldn't get a chance to recover from a punch that puts them on the seat of their pants. What I'm saying is that a referee shouldn't watch a guy get knocked unconscious and wait to see if the next punch will wake them up, that's criminal.

Fighters SHOULD complain about stoppages even when they're falling down while arguing because they put so much into that moment and they think they're fine, it doesn't always mean that they are.

I've seen some stoppages that I thought went a little too long but for the most part I don't find it to be an extraordinary amount. Guys are going to take punches when they go out because there's no way for a ref to jump in exactly at the moment when a guys lights turn off unless the opponent just stops punching. It's the nature of the beast.