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http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/KeyfactsJune02.html
• Although usually used in the fifth and sixth months, the partial-birth abortion method is also used to perform abortions in the third trimester -- that is, the seventh month and later. In Kansas, the only state in which the law requires separate reporting of partial-birth abortions, abortionists reported in 1999 they had performed 182 partial-birth abortions on babies who were defined by the abortionists themselves as “viable,” and they also reported that all 182 of these were performed for “mental” (as opposed to “physical”) health reasons. See page 11 of this state report: www.kdhe.state.ks.us/hci/99itop1.pdf
 
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verbal kevlar said:
I said in California specifically... and if there is a place where that can be done in California, then can you give me the name and atleast the city of where it is located?? I really hope that you have evidence to back your point on this, because otherwise it is truly senseless.
what i can tell you is where they are illegal

http://www.abortionfacts.com/partial_birth/state_laws.asp
Partial Birth Abortion

State Laws

Laws to ban this uniquely controversial late-term abortion procedure have been passed in at least twenty-three states:

Alabama - Alabama, 1997 Alabama Laws Act 97-485 (S.B. 314)
Alaska - Alaska, AK Statutes § 18.16.050
Arizona - Arizona, Criminal Code § 13-3603.01
Arkansas - Arkansas, AR Code Annotated § 5-61-203
Florida - Florida, FS § 390.001
Georgia - Georgia, GC 16-12-144
Illinois - Illinois, IL Statutes Chapt. 720, § 513
Indiana - Indiana, IC 16-34-2-1
Kansas - Unknown
Louisiana - Louisiana, LA R.S. 14:32.9
Michigan - Michigan, MCL 333.17016 & MCL 33.17516A
Mississippi - Mississippi, Miss. Code 1972, § 41-41-73
Montana - Montana, MC § 50-20-109
Nebraska - Nebraska, NE ST § 28-326
New Jersey - New Jersey, NJ Statutes Title 2A, Chapt. 65A
Ohio - Ohio, Ohio Revised Code § 2919.15A
Oklahoma - Unknown
Rhode Island - Rhode Island, RI Statutes § 23-4.12
South Carolina - South Carolina, SC Code 1976 § 44-41-85
South Dakota - South Dakota, SDCL 34-23A-27
Tennessee - Tennessee, TC § 39-15-209
Utah - Utah, UC 1953 § 76-7-310.5
Virginia - Virginia, VC § 18.2-74.2

All of these statues have the maternal "life " exception for when the mothers life is in danger. The majority of these do not include the maternal "health" exception which means that the procedure can not be performed if there might be health complications. Massachusetts and Indiana laws ban state funding of partial birth abortions. Most of these laws are based on the 1996 federal bill which failed to make it into law.

These laws are currently being challenged by pro-abortion supporters. This has caused most laws to remain inactive until the decision by the supreme court as per orders of appeals courts. This is not true of Virginia and Wisconsin.

AS YOU CAN SEE CALIFORNIA IS NOT ONE OF THEM SO THEN ONE CAN COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION IS LEGAL IN CALIFORNIA
 
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Name a place that you can go in California, at 8 months pregnant and say "hey can I have an abortion please?", and the fetus is 100% functional and healthy.....
this thread has become unproductive and pointless....
 
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"This post is stupid because abortions are decided strictly by a woman’s choice of whether or not she wants to have a child."

Obviously you have not followed court cases on abortion. Abortion has never been allowed because of the grounds that "the women has the choice to kill the baby or not". Abortion has been upheld on the grounds ONLY of wether or not the baby is......a baby. Then also of issue's of the mothers health. All this damn Pro-Choice crap has corrupted peoples minds....drawing peoples attention away from the real issue.
 
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Hit The Blunt, I think you need to stop hitting the blunt... & to the stupid ass posts that I see talking about the fetus not being a person yet so why is it considered murder. Once a-fucking-gain, if a woman decides (chooses) to kill her unborn child it is ok, it is not ok for someone else to kill her unborn child without having her consent and the legal right such as doctors who perform abortions... I find it hard to believe that I have to explain this shit... This post is ignorant as fuck. DAM
 
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Hit The Blunt, I think you need to stop hitting the blunt... & to the stupid ass posts that I see talking about the fetus not being a person yet so why is it considered murder. Once a-fucking-gain, if a woman decides (chooses) to kill her unborn child it is ok, it is not ok for someone else to kill her unborn child without having her consent and the legal right such as doctors who perform abortions... I find it hard to believe that I have to explain this shit... This post is ignorant as fuck. DAM
we know what you are saying and get your point. i too believe that if he did kill them he should get the double murder thing.

but the thing that troubles me is this below

ReservoirDog said:
if a woman decides (chooses) to kill her unborn child it is ok,
 
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ReservoirDog said:
Hit The Blunt, I think you need to stop hitting the blunt... & to the stupid ass posts that I see talking about the fetus not being a person yet so why is it considered murder. Once a-fucking-gain, if a woman decides (chooses) to kill her unborn child it is ok, it is not ok for someone else to kill her unborn child without having her consent and the legal right such as doctors who perform abortions... I find it hard to believe that I have to explain this shit... This post is ignorant as fuck. DAM

what htb said is true , most pro-choicers argue that the fetus isnt a person. by law when she chooses to have an abortion shes not killing anything becuz it isnt a thing.
 
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I am pro-choice and I think the fetus is a person despite what the laws say... YOuNg WiNo & HTB I think you may be generalizing a bit. Where most pro-choice people stand that I know is that they are not going to force a woman to have a baby that she doesn't want. It's her choice not mine get it?? It's coming out of her body therefore the child is her responsibility not anyone else's, except the father that is if he stuck around... America would be over crowded with unwanted children if we didn't have the pro-choice movement...
 
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Hit The Blunt said:
". Abortion has never been allowed because of the grounds that "the women has the choice to kill the baby or not". Abortion has been upheld on the grounds ONLY of wether or not the baby is......a baby


i was just sayin that since the laws don't say it's a child , because of abortion law who ever kills a pregnet lady can use that in there case. they can say because this says this then i can't be tryed for it.
 
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I don't know how much truth I would put into Hit The Blunt's statement, I would have to see that Cali abortion law shit for myself first...

Also are you aware that the supposed abortion law that Hit The Blunt talks about is not the only law??? You do realize that there are lots of other laws that states "you can not kill a womans baby unless you have consent and the legal right..."

YOuNg WiNo said:
i was just sayin that since the laws don't say it's a child , because of abortion law who ever kills a pregnet lady can use that in there case. they can say because this says this then i can't be tryed for it.
Do you honestly think that someone would get away with saying "I shot the bitch in her stomach to kill the thing growing in her, but it's not a person so fuck you I'm free." There would be no more human life if psycho's could get away with that shit...

I hope that Scott Peterson fuck enjoys what little life he has left before they find his ass guilty of double homicide and execute his ass...
 
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what the fuck do you mean attempted murder? Damn you are ignorant... Here is some knowledge for your dumbass

Many states have vastly differing laws concerning the killing of a fetus. Some states treat any fetus as a living being; others consider it illegally terminating a pregnancy, a felony offense.

In California, the law defines murder as the unlawful killing of a human being or a fetus with malice aforethought. The unborn child must have passed the embryonic stage, roughly between 6 and 8 weeks.

Also, anyone convicted of more than one first- or second-degree murder is eligible for special circumstances, which can include the death penalty.

One such scenario is playing out in Stanislaus County Superior Court.

Gilberto Cano, 29, has been charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of his pregnant girlfriend, Martha Isela Moreno, and her fetus.

Last April, sheriff's deputies found the 29-year-old woman dead in her Airport Neighborhood home. She had been stabbed several times in the stomach, investigators said.

Cano was arrested later that night. His next scheduled court appearance is April 11 for a preliminary hearing.

"In most cases when a woman is pregnant and she and her fetus are killed," Assistant District Attorney Carol Shipley said, "if the facts support the probability of conviction, we will charge the perpetrator with two counts of murder."


http://www.sacbee.com/24hour/special_reports/laci_peterson/story/6434593p-7379268c.html