High inverse correlation between education and belief in a literal Bible

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HERESY

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|GOD|||ZILLA| said:
the bible just bit off other religions.. and added some mind control tactics.. there are older religions with the same moral concepts... and that's what i think people don't grasp.
I had to lay down some guitar chops at 1 am in the morning. Finished up @ 2 am, decided to hit this board and what do I see? More foolishness from a person who has no knowledge of the bible, has never read the bible from start to finish, has no understanding of abrahamic religions, hasn't studied any religion for a significant period of time, can't even tell us about the religion he was born into and constantly gets high just so he can post foolishness and blame on the fact that he was high.

1. What religions did the bible bite off of?

2. What mind controlled tactics were added?

3. Who doesn't grasp that their are other religions with the same moral concepts? Please DON'T say me, because if you do I'll direct you to that "morality" thread either you or mista murda made, and after you read it and I'll tell you to STFU from here on out.

Impress me, do a good job and show me that you can convey your thoughts in a logical fashion.
 
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1.i remember postin' a thread.. god is the sun.. which PROVED.. how far back the concept of JESUS(you fucken non-christian piece of shit) goes... this isn't a war of gods... oh so how you'd love to make it.

2.you are fucken brainwashed.. i told you how crazy you are a million times.

3.i don't know what you are referring to .. but you just contradicted yourself. wish question numero uno pendejo.(refer to sidekick).

YOU DUMB SHIT.. go get some sleep and come back in the mornin'.. you and your psycho babble..

HA.. i kid.. your a smart guy.. just fanatic at times.

and don't bring up logic.. please.. YOU are lost... you are product of man's rib?.. sweet.
 
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EDUCATION IS EVIL!!! NEVER GET EDUCATED BECAUSE YOU MIGHT NOT BELIEVE THE BIBLE ANYMORE!!!!! BURN ALL SCHOOLS DOWN AND BURN EVERY BOOK!!! BURN ALL TEACHERS AND THOSE SUSPECTED OF TEACHING ALIVE AT THE STAKE!!!!!!!!!
 
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JLMACN said:
Ive been telling people ......the people that take the bible literal are the most uneducated.

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So what you're trying to say is that those others that believe the bible to be literal, AT TIMES AND NOT AT ALL TIMES, are uneducated? How are you going to generalize all bible believing people and say they're all uneducated. What do you mean "the people" that take the bible literally. Literally as in it's entirety or even those that understand some parts are to be taken literally and some parts to be accepted a metaphors, parables, basically figures of speech.
 
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JLMACN said:
MY MOTHER IS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE...

she drop out of highschool at 10th grade...
This is common amongst people with low educational understanding. But in some cases even those whom we deem as "uneducated" have a better understanding than those who consider themselves educated or self proclaimers. You know me, I believe in Divine Intervention and inspiration, so I believe God works through the most uneducated and less likely to be considered smart. Yeah but you are right for the most part.

GTS said:
lol
your funny. Are u a racist too?
If I learned one thing in a conversation with JL it's that you shouldn't bring in too much zeal. I have a hard time believing his an atheist. Read his reply to my post towards him.
 
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The Red Sin said:
This is common amongst people with low educational understanding. But in some cases even those whom we deem as "uneducated" have a better understanding than those who consider themselves educated or self proclaimers. You know me, I believe in Divine Intervention and inspiration, so I believe God works through the most uneducated and less likely to be considered smart. Yeah but you are right for the most part.

If I learned one thing in a conversation with JL it's that you shouldn't bring in too much zeal. I have a hard time believing his an atheist. Read his reply to my post towards him.

It was a simple question, not a jab.
 

ThaG

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this is actually very worrisome - even among people with post-graduate degrees only 30% show some signs of rational thinking...

this is very very worrisome....
 

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HYPHYHYPHERS said:
IS THIS JUST HERE IN AMERICA??...I'D HAVE TO THINK THE IMPOVERISHED IN OTHER COUNTRIES GET HOOKED ON RELIGION BECAUSE THEY ONLY FINISH SO MUCH SCHOOL UP TO A CERTAIN GRADE...THEY STOP LEARNING REAL WORLD SUBJECTS AND FALL BACK ONTO WHAT THE RELIGION SAYS AND GO BY RELIGION...THAT IS SOME SAD SHIT
I think that if you look at other countries you will see exactly the same trend - poor and uneducated people/countries are religious while countries which boast high standard of living and educational living also have the highest percentages of atheists

USA is actually the exception because it is the only non-muslim rich country where religion is still so powerful

I would say this implies that education in USA is really crappy, but it is not very good in most european countries either so I don't really know the reason...
 
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JLMACN said:
what makes you ask this?

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Just the way you said it sounds like, all chinese can't drive, or all mexicans mow lawns. Generalizing some off of a few. I could be wrong.
 

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LMAO...

What I Think About Evolution
By SAM BROWNBACK
Published: May 31, 2007

Washington

IN our sound-bite political culture, it is unrealistic to expect that every complicated issue will be addressed with the nuance or subtlety it deserves. So I suppose I should not have been surprised earlier this month when, during the first Republican presidential debate, the candidates on stage were asked to raise their hands if they did not “believe” in evolution. As one of those who raised his hand, I think it would be helpful to discuss the issue in a bit more detail and with the seriousness it demands.

The premise behind the question seems to be that if one does not unhesitatingly assert belief in evolution, then one must necessarily believe that God created the world and everything in it in six 24-hour days. But limiting this question to a stark choice between evolution and creationism does a disservice to the complexity of the interaction between science, faith and reason.

The heart of the issue is that we cannot drive a wedge between faith and reason. I believe wholeheartedly that there cannot be any contradiction between the two. The scientific method, based on reason, seeks to discover truths about the nature of the created order and how it operates, whereas faith deals with spiritual truths. The truths of science and faith are complementary: they deal with very different questions, but they do not contradict each other because the spiritual order and the material order were created by the same God.

People of faith should be rational, using the gift of reason that God has given us. At the same time, reason itself cannot answer every question. Faith seeks to purify reason so that we might be able to see more clearly, not less. Faith supplements the scientific method by providing an understanding of values, meaning and purpose. More than that, faith — not science — can help us understand the breadth of human suffering or the depth of human love. Faith and science should go together, not be driven apart.

The question of evolution goes to the heart of this issue. If belief in evolution means simply assenting to microevolution, small changes over time within a species, I am happy to say, as I have in the past, that I believe it to be true. If, on the other hand, it means assenting to an exclusively materialistic, deterministic vision of the world that holds no place for a guiding intelligence, then I reject it.

There is no one single theory of evolution, as proponents of punctuated equilibrium and classical Darwinism continue to feud today. Many questions raised by evolutionary theory — like whether man has a unique place in the world or is merely the chance product of random mutations — go beyond empirical science and are better addressed in the realm of philosophy or theology.

The most passionate advocates of evolutionary theory offer a vision of man as a kind of historical accident. That being the case, many believers — myself included — reject arguments for evolution that dismiss the possibility of divine causality.

Ultimately, on the question of the origins of the universe, I am happy to let the facts speak for themselves. There are aspects of evolutionary biology that reveal a great deal about the nature of the world, like the small changes that take place within a species. Yet I believe, as do many biologists and people of faith, that the process of creation — and indeed life today — is sustained by the hand of God in a manner known fully only to him. It does not strike me as anti-science or anti-reason to question the philosophical presuppositions behind theories offered by scientists who, in excluding the possibility of design or purpose, venture far beyond their realm of empirical science.

Biologists will have their debates about man’s origins, but people of faith can also bring a great deal to the table. For this reason, I oppose the exclusion of either faith or reason from the discussion. An attempt by either to seek a monopoly on these questions would be wrong-headed. As science continues to explore the details of man’s origin, faith can do its part as well. The fundamental question for me is how these theories affect our understanding of the human person.

The unique and special place of each and every person in creation is a fundamental truth that must be safeguarded. I am wary of any theory that seeks to undermine man’s essential dignity and unique and intended place in the cosmos. I firmly believe that each human person, regardless of circumstance, was willed into being and made for a purpose.

While no stone should be left unturned in seeking to discover the nature of man’s origins, we can say with conviction that we know with certainty at least part of the outcome. Man was not an accident and reflects an image and likeness unique in the created order. Those aspects of evolutionary theory compatible with this truth are a welcome addition to human knowledge. Aspects of these theories that undermine this truth, however, should be firmly rejected as an atheistic theology posing as science.

Without hesitation, I am happy to raise my hand to that.

Sam Brownback is a Republican senator from Kansas.
 
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Biologists will have their debates about man’s origins, but people of faith can also bring a great deal to the table.
what a idiot.

We saw that with Kirk Camron didnt we? hahahaha

Just the way you said it sounds like, all chinese can't drive, or all mexicans mow lawns. Generalizing some off of a few. I could be wrong.
Nah not at all.
If I generalized I would have stated ALL people who believe anything in the bible are stupid.
 

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While no stone should be left unturned in seeking to discover the nature of man's origins, we can say with conviction that we know with certainty at least part of the outcome. Man was not an accident and reflects an image and likeness unique in the created order. Those aspects of evolutionary theory compatible with this truth are a welcome addition to human knowledge. Aspects of these theories that undermine this truth, however, should be firmly rejected as an atheistic theology posing as science.
I just can not believe how a man who runs for president could possibly be so dumb to write such a thing for NYTimes...
 

HERESY

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1.i remember postin' a thread.. god is the sun.. which PROVED.. how far back the concept of JESUS(you fucken non-christian piece of shit) goes... this isn't a war of gods... oh so how you'd love to make it.
And I've posted a gazillion posts actually debinking that theory. In fact, I've posted it before you even made your posts. Son, you know nothing about syncretism or how different religions have changed over time. At BEST the ONLY thing you can do is get high, search google, hit wikipedia and pass the knowledge off as your own. And I'll be the non-christian piece of shit. According to you, in your past life you were a RAPIST, and the fact that you are a junky in THIS life, with possibly 1-30 years left on your clock shows you'll probably reincarnate into a "shit-n-piss" flavored lifesaver, or even worse mcleanhatch.

2.you are fucken brainwashed.. i told you how crazy you are a million times.
Says the guy who proclaims to have been a rapist in his past life :knockout:

Now if I my mind is controlled, I need you to explain if it is self induced or not. I am not a member of an organized religious body, I have not been baptized into the christian faith, and I don't even go to church. More stupidity on your part? Yes, you throw shit on the wall hoping it will stick, but when someone forces your hand you can't even explain yourself.

3.i don't know what you are referring to .. but you just contradicted yourself. wish question numero uno pendejo.(refer to sidekick).
How is that a contradiction? Do you understand that CONCEPTS are not always specific, may be generalized and are not always exclusive? Do you realize that maybe all cultures and groups of people have MALA EN SE and that it has NOTHING to do with religion?

YOU DUMB SHIT.. go get some sleep and come back in the mornin'.. you and your psycho babble..
Psycho babble? You haven't even explained your position.

HA.. i kid.. your a smart guy.. just fanatic at times.
How am I a fanatic? I don't give a shit if you die right now and go to heaven or hell. Do you see me trying to convert anyone on this board? No, but once again I see you resorting to several fallacies and bottle spinning to avoid the issue.

and don't bring up logic.. please.. YOU are lost... you are product of man's rib?.. sweet.
And according to your own words, you are the product of your own doing. A gameless mortal and fool with power issues and dominance that were inflicted on little boys under the age of six. Indeed you were a rapist. :dead:
 

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HERESY said:
bla-bla

...what you know about christianity, you haven't studied it...

bla-bla
What do you know about pastafarianism? Do you know its history, its deep philosophical implications, etc.?

Something you just refuse to understand is that you can study religion as much as you want, nobody gives a fuck about it because you are studying something purely fictional and useless. A 5 year old might know everything about fairy tales - she can all of them by heart, yet she can hardly provide any useful insight into the natural world

I am not aware of a single example of useful knowledge derived from religion

The argument "You can't reject something fictional if you haven't studied it" doesn't work. All I need to know about it is what is sufficient to know it is fictional, the rest is a waste of time for everybody