Heaven, Hell and Earthly Existence
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@nine1sixx
I believe that what necessitated you here in the first place was that you were manifested by a thought.
A collection of different energies with a single will/soul.
Your physical body and this dimension correlates with your level of understanding.
It's like in a dream when you can't function or "impossible" stuff happens. It's because so far you've only leaned how to manipulate matter in this dimension. On those occasions where you become aware that you are dreaming you start thinking "outside the box". You realize that anything is possible because it is just a dream and your mind is no longer thinking with the laws of this dimension.
You want to know why you wouldn't be able to come back here and I would say that why would a butterfly want to go back to being a caterpiller?
You've played atari, nintendo, super nintendo, nintendo 64, xbox, xbox360 and you will play a better more advanced system with more capabilities when we learn and understand how to make it.
Because you want to reach the next level.
I don't think it is impossible to come back to this dimension I just think that a majority of people wouldn't want to do it unless it was to teach somebody else in this dimension how to reach the next. Because God is good and He won't leave you hanging.
Hell is nothing more than the action or unwillingness to learn. It is confusion, to be "lost".
Heaven is that better place where you understand and keep learning.
That's why there is a heaven on Earth when you are happy and a hell on earth when you experience hopelessness.
That's just my opinion.
I believe that what necessitated you here in the first place was that you were manifested by a thought.
A collection of different energies with a single will/soul.
Your physical body and this dimension correlates with your level of understanding.
It's like in a dream when you can't function or "impossible" stuff happens. It's because so far you've only leaned how to manipulate matter in this dimension. On those occasions where you become aware that you are dreaming you start thinking "outside the box". You realize that anything is possible because it is just a dream and your mind is no longer thinking with the laws of this dimension.
You want to know why you wouldn't be able to come back here and I would say that why would a butterfly want to go back to being a caterpiller?
You've played atari, nintendo, super nintendo, nintendo 64, xbox, xbox360 and you will play a better more advanced system with more capabilities when we learn and understand how to make it.
Because you want to reach the next level.
I don't think it is impossible to come back to this dimension I just think that a majority of people wouldn't want to do it unless it was to teach somebody else in this dimension how to reach the next. Because God is good and He won't leave you hanging.
Hell is nothing more than the action or unwillingness to learn. It is confusion, to be "lost".
Heaven is that better place where you understand and keep learning.
That's why there is a heaven on Earth when you are happy and a hell on earth when you experience hopelessness.
That's just my opinion.
You're obviously talking about something very different from what this thread addresses. But if we were to apply your concepts to my question, I'd basically be asking why we don't we have the future possibility of remaining in the dimension where we have the ability to learn. In this case, "earthly situation" doesn't mean necessarily returning to the state of a caterpillar. It just means being given the opportunity to keep learning, as you put it. I am not suggesting that we'd want to move backwards, as you seem to be implying. I am suggesting that we'd want to not be condemned forever to hell. It is upon this consideration that my questions lie.
@ThaG
energy |ˈenərjē|
noun ( pl. -gies)
1 the strength and vitality required for sustained physical or mental activity : changes in the levels of vitamins can affect energy and well-being.
• a feeling of possessing such strength and vitality.
• force or vigor of expression.
• ( energies) a person's physical and mental powers, typically as applied to a particular task or activity.
2 power derived from the utilization of physical or chemical resources, esp. to provide light and heat or to work machines.
3 Physics the property of matter and radiation that is manifest as a capacity to perform work (such as causing motion or the interaction of molecules) : a collision in which no energy is transferred.
• a degree or level of this capacity possessed by something or required by a process.
That ain't new age BS it's common sense. In the beginning there was God, and God was good... thought... which manifested... everything.
God's power or energy is the spoken word. God is in everything.
Even string theory says everything is connected by a vibrating string. All sound or words are just vibrations. And those vibrations shape our world and everything in it.
My opinions are old ones before people started segregating ideas and truths for power, pride, and oppression.
In the world of the blind the man with one eye is king. In the world of the seeing we are all kings and princes. Kings of the truths we hold and princes to the truths we seek to learn.
You gotta take all the pieces and put them together to figure out the bigger puzzle that is life
@n9newunsixx5150
In a dimension where time does not exist, every moment is forever. So the instant you stop to progress you have been in that "hell" forever even if it was just for an instant and the next instant you reached Heaven.
In an "earthly situation" you can learn earthly things until you pass on. It's like a burden or a cross you carry. It helps for your progression.
It's hella hard to learn to crawl when your a baby. After you learn how, its easy to crawl... until you get old.
The only way progress is learned by this truth is if by growing older you wouldn't need your physical body. All you would need is to retain the mental process of learning how to manipulate matter. Taking something you know nothing about and learning how to use it.
It's debatable and has some holes I know.
But I'm just stating my opinion until I learn something else that makes more sense to me or that I understand.
energy |ˈenərjē|
noun ( pl. -gies)
1 the strength and vitality required for sustained physical or mental activity : changes in the levels of vitamins can affect energy and well-being.
• a feeling of possessing such strength and vitality.
• force or vigor of expression.
• ( energies) a person's physical and mental powers, typically as applied to a particular task or activity.
2 power derived from the utilization of physical or chemical resources, esp. to provide light and heat or to work machines.
3 Physics the property of matter and radiation that is manifest as a capacity to perform work (such as causing motion or the interaction of molecules) : a collision in which no energy is transferred.
• a degree or level of this capacity possessed by something or required by a process.
That ain't new age BS it's common sense. In the beginning there was God, and God was good... thought... which manifested... everything.
God's power or energy is the spoken word. God is in everything.
Even string theory says everything is connected by a vibrating string. All sound or words are just vibrations. And those vibrations shape our world and everything in it.
My opinions are old ones before people started segregating ideas and truths for power, pride, and oppression.
In the world of the blind the man with one eye is king. In the world of the seeing we are all kings and princes. Kings of the truths we hold and princes to the truths we seek to learn.
You gotta take all the pieces and put them together to figure out the bigger puzzle that is life
@n9newunsixx5150
In a dimension where time does not exist, every moment is forever. So the instant you stop to progress you have been in that "hell" forever even if it was just for an instant and the next instant you reached Heaven.
In an "earthly situation" you can learn earthly things until you pass on. It's like a burden or a cross you carry. It helps for your progression.
It's hella hard to learn to crawl when your a baby. After you learn how, its easy to crawl... until you get old.
The only way progress is learned by this truth is if by growing older you wouldn't need your physical body. All you would need is to retain the mental process of learning how to manipulate matter. Taking something you know nothing about and learning how to use it.
It's debatable and has some holes I know.
But I'm just stating my opinion until I learn something else that makes more sense to me or that I understand.
It is total BS. You don't use the dictionary to define energy as a physical concept, much less the three different everyday meanings of the word mixed together in the most ignorant (and convenient) for you way.
Bullshit. God does not even exist.
String theory does not say that. And sound vibrations operate on a scale much bigger than the strings that string theory postulates. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Your understanding of these things is at the level of a 5-year old who hears about string theory for the first time
More bullshit. I don't understand where the idea that old ideas are somehow superior to new ones come from (well, I actually do, but half a book can be written on this so I will skip the explanation). Exactly the opposite is true. Old ideas reflect the ignorance of the people who originated them relative to what has been learned after them.
It makes no sense to think that anybody 10 years ago was better informed than we are today on any subject, and you (and everyone who adheres to any version of the Abrahamic religions) are suggesting to go back to the world view of some ignorant goat-herders that lived in the desert 4000 years ago.
I understand that because the average Joe is so ignorant about what scientists do and what science actually is, it is very easy for him to imagine "The big intellectual conspiracy". But that's entirely a product of his ignorance and stupidity. Atheism arose from the advancement of our understanding of the world, not from pride. And in this day and age, the advancement our understanding of the world is helped by the fact that there are some people out there who would rather do the work and figure things out than declare "God did it". But it was the data, not people who were looking for power to to oppress others that removed God out of the picture. Actually, if you are looking for people looking to oppress others, the religious leaders are a good starting point, and have been so for millenia.
The above illustrates what I am saying very nicely
Lots of words, zero information content
Exactly, and that's what you lack the intelligence, the education, the training and the information to do so go to work, acquire those, and then come back to argue in 15 years after you're past the intellectual level of a 5-year old
Bullshit. God does not even exist.
String theory does not say that. And sound vibrations operate on a scale much bigger than the strings that string theory postulates. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Your understanding of these things is at the level of a 5-year old who hears about string theory for the first time
More bullshit. I don't understand where the idea that old ideas are somehow superior to new ones come from (well, I actually do, but half a book can be written on this so I will skip the explanation). Exactly the opposite is true. Old ideas reflect the ignorance of the people who originated them relative to what has been learned after them.
It makes no sense to think that anybody 10 years ago was better informed than we are today on any subject, and you (and everyone who adheres to any version of the Abrahamic religions) are suggesting to go back to the world view of some ignorant goat-herders that lived in the desert 4000 years ago.
I understand that because the average Joe is so ignorant about what scientists do and what science actually is, it is very easy for him to imagine "The big intellectual conspiracy". But that's entirely a product of his ignorance and stupidity. Atheism arose from the advancement of our understanding of the world, not from pride. And in this day and age, the advancement our understanding of the world is helped by the fact that there are some people out there who would rather do the work and figure things out than declare "God did it". But it was the data, not people who were looking for power to to oppress others that removed God out of the picture. Actually, if you are looking for people looking to oppress others, the religious leaders are a good starting point, and have been so for millenia.
The above illustrates what I am saying very nicely
Lots of words, zero information content
Exactly, and that's what you lack the intelligence, the education, the training and the information to do so go to work, acquire those, and then come back to argue in 15 years after you're past the intellectual level of a 5-year old
