HBO: Game of Thrones
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I liked this ep but I'm pretty confused as to where daenerys is at this point. It feels like her story is more advanced compared to where everybody else's story is. I dunno maybe I'm wrong.
Jaime did bang her by the corpse but you're right it wasn't rape. Jaime wasn't even in kings landing until after joffrey died so it was more of an emotional reuniting banging lol.
Samwell tarly is an annoying fuck and so is that wildling and her abomination baby.
I heard there's a battle this season that they basically spent the bank on with special effects. I hope its mereen. Or it could be a battle at the wall
Jaime did bang her by the corpse but you're right it wasn't rape. Jaime wasn't even in kings landing until after joffrey died so it was more of an emotional reuniting banging lol.
Samwell tarly is an annoying fuck and so is that wildling and her abomination baby.
I heard there's a battle this season that they basically spent the bank on with special effects. I hope its mereen. Or it could be a battle at the wall
I have been watching the whole season before I start on the book. Seems to be a pretty good formula IMO.
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That's because the books are 10000x better than the show, so it's frustrating seeing them fuck up so many things that could be done better. I'm not trying to sound obnoxious, I'm generally mad that people who only watch the show are missing out on a better story.
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I do read the books, after a season. From experience this is much better. Season 2 I read ahead of the show and I was doing the same things in my head (thinking too much on the differences etc). You just have to accept the show is not the books 100%. It never is whether it's a movie or a show based on a book. Two different experiences.
So I read the sex scene in the book just to see what all the fuss is about.
Ok so she's on her period, she says no, no, no, this is wrong, not here, and even hitting him on the chest, but once his sausage is in her bloody pussu she's saying yes, yes, yes. So it's actually kind of minor difference. In the book it kinda started out as rape, but she gave in.
Ok so she's on her period, she says no, no, no, this is wrong, not here, and even hitting him on the chest, but once his sausage is in her bloody pussu she's saying yes, yes, yes. So it's actually kind of minor difference. In the book it kinda started out as rape, but she gave in.
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wasn't it "no, they'll hear us" instead of a firm NO?
and yeah my biggest complaint is no moonblood pussu lol
you're right, but the whole thing is weird. The director made it seem like they filmed the rape scene the way it was in the books, where she's resisting because she's still mad at Jaime but still wants it. Then they show that full on rape shit from the character with the best redemption arc of the series and it feels like it's the producers not understanding wtf is going on in the books again. To their credit, at least Stannis finally said something badass
and yeah my biggest complaint is no moonblood pussu lol
you're right, but the whole thing is weird. The director made it seem like they filmed the rape scene the way it was in the books, where she's resisting because she's still mad at Jaime but still wants it. Then they show that full on rape shit from the character with the best redemption arc of the series and it feels like it's the producers not understanding wtf is going on in the books again. To their credit, at least Stannis finally said something badass
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Yeah probably but she was still saying no and hitting him. Jamie wasn't taking no for an answer lol. I guess we'll have to see in the following episodes how she acts about it.
I know Jamie was cool last season but I think we forget he tried to kill a boy, fucks his sister and did other horrible things too lol. I know he honestly loves her and all, but still, not exactly a stand up guy!
I know Jamie was cool last season but I think we forget he tried to kill a boy, fucks his sister and did other horrible things too lol. I know he honestly loves her and all, but still, not exactly a stand up guy!
true, but it's going to change the dynamics to a lot of stuff down the road. And I just watched an interview with the producers, who have final cut, where they call it rape. So apparently they had an entirely different vision of the scene from the director, and Nikolaj (Jaime), who both saw it as consensual. Weirdness all around.
something else I just remembered liking. They're doing a great job making me hate Janos Slynt. Fuck that guy.
something else I just remembered liking. They're doing a great job making me hate Janos Slynt. Fuck that guy.
George Martin has been getting a lot of emails about Jaime's scene, this is from his livejournal page:
Since a lot of people have been emailing me about this, however, I will reply... but please, take any further discussion of the show to one of the myriad on-line forums devoted to that. I do not want long detailed dissections and debates about the TV series here on my blog.
As for your question... I think the "butterfly effect" that I have spoken of so often was at work here. In the novels, Jaime is not present at Joffrey's death, and indeed, Cersei has been fearful that he is dead himself, that she has lost both the son and the father/ lover/ brother. And then suddenly Jaime is there before her. Maimed and changed, but Jaime nonetheless. Though the time and place is wildly inappropriate and Cersei is fearful of discovery, she is as hungry for him as he is for her.
The whole dynamic is different in the show, where Jaime has been back for weeks at the least, maybe longer, and he and Cersei have been in each other's company on numerous occasions, often quarreling. The setting is the same, but neither character is in the same place as in the books, which may be why Dan & David played the sept out differently. But that's just my surmise; we never discussed this scene, to the best of my recollection.
Also, I was writing the scene from Jaime's POV, so the reader is inside his head, hearing his thoughts. On the TV show, the camera is necessarily external. You don't know what anyone is thinking or feeling, just what they are saying and doing.
If the show had retained some of Cersei's dialogue from the books, it might have left a somewhat different impression -- but that dialogue was very much shaped by the circumstances of the books, delivered by a woman who is seeing her lover again for the first time after a long while apart during which she feared he was dead. I am not sure it would have worked with the new timeline.
That's really all I can say on this issue. The scene was always intended to be disturbing... but I do regret if it has disturbed people for the wrong reasons.
Since a lot of people have been emailing me about this, however, I will reply... but please, take any further discussion of the show to one of the myriad on-line forums devoted to that. I do not want long detailed dissections and debates about the TV series here on my blog.
As for your question... I think the "butterfly effect" that I have spoken of so often was at work here. In the novels, Jaime is not present at Joffrey's death, and indeed, Cersei has been fearful that he is dead himself, that she has lost both the son and the father/ lover/ brother. And then suddenly Jaime is there before her. Maimed and changed, but Jaime nonetheless. Though the time and place is wildly inappropriate and Cersei is fearful of discovery, she is as hungry for him as he is for her.
The whole dynamic is different in the show, where Jaime has been back for weeks at the least, maybe longer, and he and Cersei have been in each other's company on numerous occasions, often quarreling. The setting is the same, but neither character is in the same place as in the books, which may be why Dan & David played the sept out differently. But that's just my surmise; we never discussed this scene, to the best of my recollection.
Also, I was writing the scene from Jaime's POV, so the reader is inside his head, hearing his thoughts. On the TV show, the camera is necessarily external. You don't know what anyone is thinking or feeling, just what they are saying and doing.
If the show had retained some of Cersei's dialogue from the books, it might have left a somewhat different impression -- but that dialogue was very much shaped by the circumstances of the books, delivered by a woman who is seeing her lover again for the first time after a long while apart during which she feared he was dead. I am not sure it would have worked with the new timeline.
That's really all I can say on this issue. The scene was always intended to be disturbing... but I do regret if it has disturbed people for the wrong reasons.