GODLIKE?
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Sleep without a dream is equal to life before birth as far as I'm concerned. You just don't know it is happening, it is absolute nothingness. What do you know about sleep? You lay down, close your eyes, as soon as you fall asleep, aside from any dreams, the next thing you know is you awake. You don't know you're sleeping, it is just darkness, nothing. Thats what I am trying to get across.
@CcytzO...thats some shit to think about...you hear about ETs experimenting with impregnating human with aliens and vice versa...i never thought about it like that...maybe the virgin mary was abducted by aliens and impregnated with jesus, maybe it was god himslef who sent his alien cronies to do the deed, who knows...
and was the shit really that long that you couldnt read it all?...lol.
and was the shit really that long that you couldnt read it all?...lol.
Maybe you are all just a figment of my imagination. None of you really exist.. only images of what my brain has formulated for my eyes to see. I am the only true living being. If this be the case, then maybe I am God, since I created everyone of you, if not physically then mentally. When I perish, so does my mind, and everyone of you, and we are left with nothing.
its just a little hard to grasp this eternal thing...i can understand if god was born in krypton and now hes eternal and he never dies but, how did god come about?...was his birth that of another galaxy and now he created this one so now hes eternal in this galaxy with no begining except the one he created?
whats outside of this universe?, are there other universes out there?...maybe god was from another universe and by creating this one he became god and hence his immortality with no beginning...that would mean each universe has its own god.
whats outside of this universe?, are there other universes out there?...maybe god was from another universe and by creating this one he became god and hence his immortality with no beginning...that would mean each universe has its own god.
YES IT WAS TOO MUCH TO READ AT THE TIME CUZ I HAD OTHER SHIT TO DO YET I FELT COMPELLED TO POST MY THOUGHTS TO YOUR POST ASKG.....NOW IVE READ IT AND IT HASNT MADE A DIFFERENCE TO ME.....AINT NO POINT IN REALLY KNOWING ANYONE ELSES OPINIONS WHEN IM SET ON MY OWN.....I WAS JUS ANSWERING THE ORIGINAL QUESTION YOU ASKED......
There is no such thing as something becoming eternal. Either it is eternal, or it is not. One cannot develop eternality. Because eternal means infinite in time. Just as you cannot count to infinity, you cannot become eternal.
That doesn't make any sense. If God had a beginning in this universe or in another, He cannot be eternal. The concept of eternal is without beginning and without end. This seems to be a hard concept for you to grasp. It is like infinity. Can you grasp the concept? Doing so doesn't require that you perceive infinity in it's entirety, it is a mathematical concept. Same thing with eternity, you must understand it in concept. That which has a beginning has an end. Therefore, that which has no beginning, has no end.
If we follow that God was born in another universe, then who gave birth to Him in that universe? Who gave birth to the one who gave birth to God in that universe? Etc, etc, etc...
Who created that universe? Who created the one who created the universe? Etc, etc, etc...
None of these creators or begettors can hold the title "God". Because the concept of God constitutes an eternal and thus fully reconciling reality.
askG said:
whats outside of this universe?, are there other universes out there?...maybe god was from another universe and by creating this one he became god and hence his immortality with no beginning...that would mean each universe has its own god.
If we follow that God was born in another universe, then who gave birth to Him in that universe? Who gave birth to the one who gave birth to God in that universe? Etc, etc, etc...
Who created that universe? Who created the one who created the universe? Etc, etc, etc...
None of these creators or begettors can hold the title "God". Because the concept of God constitutes an eternal and thus fully reconciling reality.
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i understand the eternity in mathematics like numbers
.....-2, -1, 0, 1, 2.......
but not how a person, a spirit, a entity, whatever the hell god is (no disrespect)...god created the universe isnt that right, through the big bang, but before the big bang, what was god doing, were did he come from, how did he come about? thats what i dont quite understand about this eternal thing...earlier someone said that life just happens over and over again like a cycle, were is god during the time when one cycle ends and the other begins, and if it is a cycle wouldnt that mean that life istself is eternal?
i understand the eternity in mathematics like numbers
.....-2, -1, 0, 1, 2.......
but not how a person, a spirit, a entity, whatever the hell god is (no disrespect)...god created the universe isnt that right, through the big bang, but before the big bang, what was god doing, were did he come from, how did he come about? thats what i dont quite understand about this eternal thing...earlier someone said that life just happens over and over again like a cycle, were is god during the time when one cycle ends and the other begins, and if it is a cycle wouldnt that mean that life istself is eternal?
You ask where God is during that cycle... Do you want me to disclose to you His secret location?? LOL...
God is eternal and thus unchanging. Things can cycle eternally, while God remains eternally.
Yes, that would mean that life itself is eternal. Not only life, but that all energy is eternal. Modern science understands that concept - the law of conservation of energy; that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. It only changes states.
So these "states", or manifest forms are not eternal. Fundamentally, the energy these forms consist of is. The philosophical difference in the quality of material energy versus spiritual energy is that, although both energies are eternally existing, the material energy is eternally undergoing a cycle of manifest and unmanifest forms. Whereas, the spiritual energy is eternally and transcendentally manifest. It can be understood, at least theoretically, that it's manifestation is beyond our material sense perception. Another characteristic of spiritual energy is that it is the life principle itself. Here in this material world things exist that are simply "dead" matter, ie: inanimate objects like a chair. In the spiritual realm, even the chair consists of living energy. And all things (being absolute), despite differences in form, are non-different from all other things in the spiritual energy. In the material world fire, (for example), is of a different constitution than wood, and thus it has a tendency to burn the wood to ash. Theoretically, in the spiritual world, the fire, the wood, and even the ash all exist despite the fire and wood's interactivity of burning. Thus the activity of burning does not diminish the original form. I know this sounds very abstract, but it is because we are used to how things work here.
When you say "life" I think I know that you are referring to these material lifeforms. But, given that God is the life principle Himself, and that He is eternal concludes that life itself is constitutionally without beginning and without end. Similar to how the Bible (for example) refers to "he who has life". The soul (or self) is without beginning and without end, but under the illusion of the material energy he sees things coming and going. Many Christians subscribe to an idea that the soul is created at birth of the body and then (possibly) lives on forever from that point. This is inconsistent philosophy. that which has a beginning, has an end. That which has no beginning, has no end. The more precise understanding is that both God and the individual souls exist eternally. And it is eternally the constitution of the individual souls to be subordinate to God. He is The Infinite Supersoul, and we are the infinitesimal souls.