Gennady "GGG" Golovkin vs David Lemieux, Oct 17th

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Yall can keep trying to protect and act like GGG is perfect but I know what I see and he needs to continue to fight in his class or above because he is a big middleweight anyway. Who cares which one called out Floyd and how many times, neither are gonna fight Floyd because they are way to big so the fans can move on. Fight guys their own size. Hows that? Now that that is settled, GGG still needs to fight Ward lol. Got Em!!
Even Floyd talked about fighting Golovkin and said he thought he could beat GGG. He said so on multiple occasions and so did Floyd Sr so I think the talk has always been fine, both sides acknowledge the other but Floyd is retired and of course a 147/154 pound guy and GGG says he knows that and it's just a fantasy fight (hypothetical).

Anytime there is a really good fighter in a weight class above there is kind of the natural speculation about moving up one day, which is of course the exact same reason you're saying Golovkin should move up and fight Ward. It's the same thing as people wondering how a Floyd vs GGG match would go. Same reason people are saying Ward should fight Kovalev and so on.
 

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Smh. Czar, you just said GGG is a big MW. can you list the fight night weigh ins of his last five fights?

Then you talk about "who cares who called out Floyd" but that isn't the issue. The issue is you said nothing about Ward calling the guy out but as soon as GGG answers a question you say he's calling out a smaller fighter and needs to fight Ward.

And why would GGG need to fight Ward? Ward is not a MW champ or a mandatory.
Cause he needs to fight Ward. Got Em!!

CZAR @CZAR what are your thoughts on the Floyd-Beiber pics that were leaked? HELLA FUCKING SUSPECT MAN YOU CAN SEE FLOYD CHILLIN WITH A NUDE BOY

They are fucking. Got Em!!
 
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Cause he needs to fight Ward. Got Em!!
Ok but just so you're aware, Ward doesn't want to fight him right now, you know that right? He's talking about late 2016 so lets wait for the Canelo Cotto fight and go from there. Golovkin is mandatory and has been chasing the lineal crown for YEARS. He deserves a shot at that title.
 
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Corrales was 33-0 with 26 ko's and Floyd took his belt. Zab only had three losses when he fought Floyd and two of those were four to five years before the fight. He beats a 43-0 Hatton. When he fought JMM Marquez only had three losses. One to Pac two years prior, one to John 3 years prior and a loss 10 years prior. Cotto only had two losses when he fought Floyd.

These guys were either champs, ranked in the top two in their division when Floyd fought them or on the P4P for the entire sport.

Now let's talk about Wards great fuckin accomplishment in super six where he took on a risk 100x greater. Taylor and Dirrel withdrew from the tournament. One of the participants in the tournament, Glen Johnson, had 14, count them 14 fuckin losses when he went into the tournament. Yeah, Ward had a way thougher route than Floyd.
Hatton was trash, fought Cotto when he was no longer a fearful fighter to fight, Marquez had to go up 2 weight divisions to fight Floyd. Judah was far from his prime by the time Floyd fought him. Floyd fought Mosley at age 38 or some shit. Corrales and Canelo were his best 2 accomplishments, I already said Corrales was good fight but what else really???????? Certainly not denying Floyd had the boxing skills noone else had but once again he took the safe road. Ducked Cotto and Margarito. Then theres Paul Williams. Never heard that name come out of Floyds mouth once. Im simply saying Ward fought everyone available to him like Cotto did. Cotto has one of the most impressive resumes cuz of the risks he took

You talk like Taylor wasnt a shot fighter by the time the tournament came around. It was the one of the most stacked divisions in the past 20 years at that period of time. Yall talken like Dawson was done when he fought Ward, far from it but Ward sure ruined him. Froch ruined a lot of fighters. Kessler was 42-1 when he fought Ward. Ill take the 3 top opponents Ward fought in the stages of there career over Floyds top 3 any day and Wards career isnt even over yet
 
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Hatton was trash, fought Cotto when he was no longer a fearful fighter to fight, Marquez had to go up 2 weight divisions to fight Floyd. Judah was far from his prime by the time Floyd fought him.
How was Hatton trash? Cotto when he was no longer a fearful fighter to fight? Judah far from his prime? SMH. Are you reading the stuff you're typing fam? As for JMM, yes, he moved up two weight classes to fight him. The point is, JMM was a credible opponent not coming off 5 losses or something of that nature.

Floyd fought Mosley at age 38 or some shit.
I didn't say anything about Mosley.

Corrales and Canelo were his best 2 accomplishments, I already said Corrales was good fight but what else really????????
So fighting and beatign Castillo was no accomplishment? SMH.

Certainly not denying Floyd had the boxing skills noone else had but once again he took the safe road. Ducked Cotto and Margarito.
SMH.

Then theres Paul Williams. Never heard that name come out of Floyds mouth once.
Agreed.

Im simply saying Ward fought everyone available to him like Cotto did.
And GGG has done the same thing, why the hypocrisy?

Cotto has one of the most impressive resumes cuz of the risks he took
Yet when Floyd called him out what happened? Arum and Cotton turned down the fight.

You talk like Taylor wasnt a shot fighter by the time the tournament came around.
It's the fact he was in the tournament.

It was the one of the most stacked divisions in the past 20 years at that period of time.
And the divisions Floyd fought in werent? Keyword there is divisions.

Yall talken like Dawson was done when he fought Ward, far from it but Ward sure ruined him.
No one said he was done, just severely weight drained.

Frock ruined a lot of fighters. Kessler was 42-1 when he fought Ward. Ill take the 3 top opponents Ward fought in the stages of there career over Floyds top 3 any day and Wards career isnt even over yet
Lol
 
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^^^ When the fuck did Cotto turn down a fight with Floyd? Hatton fucken lost to Collazo and they give him the decision. He beats Tszyu in Tszyus's last fight and the ref as biased as can possibly be since the fight was in England. Then fights Castillo when hes at the tail end of his career. Name 1 good fighter Hatton beat in the prime of there career or even close to prime. Floyd fought Cotto even after Manny fought Cotto. Manny would have never fought Cotto if Cotto wasnt so damaged from that Margarito fight
 
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I forgot to add Judah had gotten ko'd by Tszyu 5 years before he fought Floyd. No way was he at the top of his game when he fought Floyd. Who the fuck did Judah beat within that time? Corey Spinks lol?
 

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^^^ When the fuck did Cotto turn down a fight with Floyd? Hatton fucken lost to Collazo and they give him the decision. He beats Tszyu in Tszyus's last fight and the ref as biased as can possibly be since the fight was in England. Then fights Castillo when hes at the tail end of his career. Name 1 good fighter Hatton beat in the prime of there career or even close to prime. Floyd fought Cotto even after Manny fought Cotto. Manny would have never fought Cotto if Cotto wasnt so damaged from that Margarito fight
When Arum was asked about a fight between Cotto and Floyd he shot in down. Not once did Cotto speak out or call Floyd out before or after his then master Bob said no.

Then you say he beat Tszyu in his last fight and the ref was biased since they were in England. All judges had Hatton ahead and Tszyu QUIT. And let's not forget that he only had one loss on his record and that was like 7 or 8 years before they fought. Leading up to the fight Ring had him ranked on the P4P list at #3 and counting from Zab to Hatton he had 3 kos and 1 ud. So how was he shot or on the tail end when Hatton beat him?

How did he fight Castillo at the tail end of his career when Castillo only had three losses up to that point, two of them against Floyd, a ten rd tko loss he avenged by a 4th rd ko and fought SEVEN YEARS AFTER the Hatton fight? How in the hell is that being on the tail end of a career? That is close to prime if not in his prime when it happened. Many people thought Castillo beat Floyd in their first fight but he was outclassed in the second so it's not like he was a slouch.

As for Cotto, if the match against Margarito damaged him so much why was he able to earn four tkos after that fight including a tko against the man you claimed damaged him beyond repair? Lol.
 
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The Hatton/Tszyu fight was terrible actually. The ref allowed hatton to smother Tszyu the whole fight. Not making them break once i dont believe but still theres a reason Tszyu never fought again and it sure wasnt from any damage he suffered in that fight. I dont remember the reasons if it was his back but he was out with injury a lot before that fight even happened.

Castillo wasnt shit by the time Hatton fought him. He wasnt on anybodys radar. Castillo wasnt even in good shape coming into the fight it was obvious. Maybe lost dedication who knows but he looked flabby and sick lol. You could just tell he wasnt the same fighter, i know he had a hard time making weight and the 3rd fight with Corrales was cancelled. I think Castillo wasnt comfortable at 147 actually, he was fairly new to that weight class when he fought Hatton

Cotto was not the same after that Margarito fight for quite some time actually. He altered his whole style. Every time one punch landed on him he would get super defensive trying to back away. Before the loaded gloves incident happened he always had the killer instinct which is why he was so good and feared. He would stay in the pocket and trade punches. It really did fuck him up mentally. Maybe his body naturally got bigger but i did think he was best at 140 which is absolutely nuts that hes at 160 now.