fuck ziegest

[HERESY]

this time you decided to actually respond with a little insight, rather than say i make no sense without an explanation actually baffles me since you seem to take pride knowing all.

Insight was given in every post I made in this thread. However, insight is something you know by name only, so of course I can't truly expect you to comprehend such things, I just can't.

it shows i'm on the right path in my observation of you.

There you go again, rambling just for the hell of it, or in hopes of sounding intelligent...futile and utterly useless no matter how you cut it.

and for the record, the only shitting you are doing my friend is on your toilet seat in your house. i take pride in being an excellent provider to my family and actually have three toilets to choose from.

WTF kind of reply is this? You should be banned from these parts not for typing that, but for thinking it was ok to type it.

i get no satisfaction from any of this. my sarcasm may be lacking because i'm not an internet icon like yourself. sorry, i do this in real life.

And what is it exactly that you do in real life? I recall you said you were in law school or something like that, but it is obvious those skills do not translate well when you're forced to write/type something on your own.

oh yeah......

our debate would be very humerous, we can all lmao to that.

Things continue to fly over your head.

and rather than talk down to people you should enlighten them with your knowledge. i would be all ears.

I've tried this before with you, and others are giving you so much info right now you still keep falling short. In the future, if you don't know what you're talking about, ask for info or clarification before you open your mouth. This applies to all areas of your "life" or whatever it is you have.

 

[Jae iLL]

@ jae ill

i agree with alot of what you are saying. the BPP definately wasnt similiar to the kkk in belief. my point was that all kkk members were white, just like all BPP members were african american. i should have been a little more clear. i'm aware of the BPP beliefs and cause.they were organized around african american interests. they were racially profiling "white officers" and making sure african americans werent being unjustly detained and or arrested.
at that time the united states was adjusting to equal rights, regardless of the color of your skin. it was a tough time. i'm not against what the BPP stood for. i'm a firm believer however that fighting fire with fire isnt the answer, atleast now i do. i'm not saying they didnt affiliate with other non-african american organizations.but if they werent a racially motivated organization, they would have allowed members of all races and had a name without a racial reference. leaders lead by example. shooting it out with the police is radical behavior.

I can kind of understand what you're saying about "racially profiling" white officers, but to me that's not what it was. They were following the police just like the police follow members of the community, if most of the police happened to be white, that's not profiling that's just a reality. What law says you can't follow the police around and make sure they're not oppressing the community, as long as they're following the traffic laws and such.

When you say fight fire with fire, I'm going to have to disagree with you there. There's a lot of self declared liberal folk that agreed with the Panther's viewpoints, or at least said they did, but what did they actually do for the community? The police were truly an occupying force within the community, and the Panthers were there to show the people that it was okay to defend yourself and your family. They told the people to get guns in their homes, but they never said "break the law".
Huey Newton was against riots, when he was shot they told the people not to get crazy and fuck shit up. They weren't about random acts of violence, they were about showing the power structure that they had the means to defend themselves, and would use this means if they had to. To me, that's not fighting fire with fire, that's fighting fire with water. They didn't go to police stations and shoot them up, even though the police shot their offices up. They didn't find police on the street and beat them, invade their homes, shoot up their families. They didn't do any of that, they just carried guns and defended themselves if attacked.
So basically, the point you're trying to make is that the Panthers was an organization that wanted to provoke violence with the police? You believe the panthers went out there and just started busting on the police? I'm asking in all seriousness cuz I'm trying to understand where you coming from.

 

[james blunt]

the sad thing i think is that both MLK and BPP legacies have gotten hijaked by people who are obbsessed with race totally ignoring the class issues but then again talking about class in the Us seems to be a taboo.

 

[radiostationrep]

@ jae ill

right on for actually explaining your view and what you felt was wrong with mine. that is something some people cant do unless a nerve is obviously struck. i'm not saying that the BPP was out there just "busting on police". i believe that although there were some great contributions, they were a criminally involved organization that cried wolf. i'm not saying its right or wrong, or i'm against them or their beliefs. i'm just saying facts are facts.

@ heresy

get over yourself. your so called witty "insight" may actually humor you and your cheer squad, but in reality you know exactly what it is you try and do. dont worry, i wont have 10,000 plus posts like you. you should know that an attorney really wins and loses cases on presentation in the courtroom. i get compliments everyday from real people that find my knowledge and outlook on life in general very positive and accurate. your take on me doesnt matter. your attempts to discredit me are humorous. nothing more, nothing less. nothing is flying over my head, it actually looks to be flying over yours. i have no reason to adjust my conduct because of you. someone should give you a hug away from the computer.

 

[HERESY]

@ heresy

get over yourself. your so called witty "insight" may actually humor you and your cheer squad, but in reality you know exactly what it is you try and do.

zzzzzzz...

dont worry, i wont have 10,000 plus posts like you.

Another fallacy. There are people here with more than 10,000 posts and people here with multiple accounts. What do these things have to do with your lack of intelligence and ignorance on the subject matter? Nothing.

you should know that an attorney really wins and loses cases on presentation in the courtroom.

But you aren't an attorney. :dead:

i get compliments everyday from real people that find my knowledge and outlook on life in general very positive and accurate.

And most of those are probably from homersexuals who in addition to giving you compliments, give you their dirty drawers.

your take on me doesnt matter.

Yet you're constantly defending yourself, good job.

your attempts to discredit me are humorous.

You discredit yourself, I've done nothing of the sort.

nothing more, nothing less. nothing is flying over my head, it actually looks to be flying over yours.

Sure.

i have no reason to adjust my conduct because of you. someone should give you a hug away from the computer.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

 

[radiostationrep]

zzzzzzz...



Another fallacy. There are people here with more than 10,000 posts and people here with multiple accounts. What do these things have to do with your lack of intelligence and ignorance on the subject matter? Nothing.



But you aren't an attorney. :dead:



And most of those are probably from homersexuals who in addition to giving you compliments, give you their dirty drawers.



Yet you're constantly defending yourself, good job.



You discredit yourself, I've done nothing of the sort.



Sure.



Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

its written all over your face, or post.

 

[HERESY]

its written all over your face, or post.

A smile? intelligence? Wit? You sir, are 100% correct. Now instead of contradicting yourself once again, and introducing topics that have little to do with this thread, go R-E-A-D the information presented by myself and others.

 

[radiostationrep]

A smile? intelligence? Wit? You sir, are 100% correct. Now instead of contradicting yourself once again, and introducing topics that have little to do with this thread, go R-E-A-D the information presented by myself and others.

LMAO!

 

[HERESY]

LMAO!

Indeed, this is something many of us in this thread are doing.

 

[radiostationrep]

interesting.

 

[mocheezkc]

thats the problem with this forum. an opinion that differs from yours gets you guys bent out of shape. then it turns into disrespectful comments. no problem. you would never address me like that in person so say what you want. this particular gentleman is using the political prisoner card as a rallying cry.

Best post in the whole thread.......

"THE PROBLEM WITH THIS FORUM IS, WHEN AN OPINION DIFFERS FROM YOURS, IT GETS YOU GUYS (LORDS OF THE SICCNESS) BENT OUT OF SHAPE, AND IT THEN TURNS INTO DISRESPECTFUL COMMENTS"......

The most common comebacks from a Lord of the Siccness,

1. You're a fag
2. You're a douchebag
3. You should stop posting
4. Owned

I guess that's what the Sicc Lords are limited too, when it comes to proving a point. Condescending, name calling, how intelligent for a forum falsely titled "Gathering of Minds". It should be called "Gathering of the Closed-Minds".........

BTW only certain peeps will take this post personally.....

 

[radiostationrep]

Best post in the whole thread.......

"THE PROBLEM WITH THIS FORUM IS, WHEN AN OPINION DIFFERS FROM YOURS, IT GETS YOU GUYS (LORDS OF THE SICCNESS) BENT OUT OF SHAPE, AND IT THEN TURNS INTO DISRESPECTFUL COMMENTS"......

The most common comebacks from a Lord of the Siccness,

1. You're a fag
2. You're a douchebag
3. You should stop posting
4. Owned

I guess that's what the Sicc Lords are limited too, when it comes to proving a point. Condescending, name calling, how intelligent for a forum falsely titled "Gathering of Minds". It should be called "Gathering of the Closed-Minds".........

BTW only certain peeps will take this post personally.....

its just childish. anybody that constantly puts people down and resorts to name calling has some personal issues they need to get over. i really cant call it.

*non-quote related*

i can say after doing a little research on the things mentioned in this thread, i misinterpreted a few things as far as the BPP and its members. but it's common sense that anyone providing resources and knowledge would be welcomed with open arms, much like mr.okoi was. if thats spelled correct. there is good and bad with every organization and the BPP was no different. the original agenda was african american interests. that was my position throughout this conversation and still is.

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

Best post in the whole thread.......

"THE PROBLEM WITH THIS FORUM IS, WHEN AN OPINION DIFFERS FROM YOURS, IT GETS YOU GUYS (LORDS OF THE SICCNESS) BENT OUT OF SHAPE, AND IT THEN TURNS INTO DISRESPECTFUL COMMENTS"......

The most common comebacks from a Lord of the Siccness,

1. You're a fag
2. You're a douchebag
3. You should stop posting
4. Owned

I guess that's what the Sicc Lords are limited too, when it comes to proving a point. Condescending, name calling, how intelligent for a forum falsely titled "Gathering of Minds". It should be called "Gathering of the Closed-Minds".........

BTW only certain peeps will take this post personally.....

People on here only do that when others, like radiostationrep, present not only MISINFORMATION, but opinions that are backed by that exact same misinformation. And when they are given the CORRECT information, find a way to make the people that tried to help them, into some kind of bad guy.

Look, an opinion is your right as a human being to have, but don't come into a forum where facts are the strongest point of view, and expect to win over the crowd with a bunch of bullshit. And don't come in here if you can't have a debate without being open minded to the other point of view.

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

its just childish. anybody that constantly puts people down and resorts to name calling has some personal issues they need to get over. i really cant call it.

Some times, people deserve it.

*shrugs*

i can say after doing a little research on the things mentioned in this thread, i misinterpreted a few things as far as the BPP and its members. but it's common sense that anyone providing resources and knowledge would be welcomed with open arms, much like mr.okoi was. if thats spelled correct. there is good and bad with every organization and the BPP was no different. the original agenda was african american interests. that was my position throughout this conversation and still is.

Translation: "I was wrong and next time, i wont be such a fuckin douche bag about it".

There, was that so hard to do?

 

[mocheezkc]

People on here only do that when others, like radiostationrep, present not only MISINFORMATION, but opinions that are backed by that exact same misinformation. And when they are given the CORRECT information, find a way to make the people that tried to help them, into some kind of bad guy.

Look, an opinion is your right as a human being to have, but don't come into a forum where facts are the strongest point of view, and expect to win over the crowd with a bunch of bullshit. And don't come in here if you can't have a debate without being open minded to the other point of view.

It just seems to me that this forum has waaaaaay to many preachers and hardly any teachers...... I actually do learn some things that I didn't know from this forum. I'm not in school, i don't read books as often as did when i was in school, i have kids so i have a lot of conversations about Hannah Montana, Bakugan and Soulja Boy, and it just stirs my curiosity to see what's on the minds of the "now generation" of hip-hop culture. From alot of the exchanges that I see on here, catz are insulated from "real-life" experiences and the Net is their Primary social circle. Instead of learning from fathers,Uncles and grandfathers catz learn from wiki, youtube, and google. In "real-life", when you are having a discussion with someone, and a disagreement occurs, people don't immediately resort to name-calling, cursing, and deameaning and derogatory actions. Some people just apply "real-life" discourse to the Net, and I guess that is a mistake, because on the internet people can be whoever they decide to be.....

 

[radiostationrep]

i can admit when i'm wrong. some information was misinformation. but all you guys that resort to the name calling wouldnt do so in reality so have your satisfaction. cool. if you did, you would have humbled yourself by now. there is a way to correct someone if their wrong. your guys way is that "white mentality", or i'm better than you. if not, you would have properly addressed my misinformation. you support minority organizations but treat people the same way white america did. the reason for this thread. comedy at its finest. you'd be suprised what you could learn from a "douche bag".

 

[SeriouslyThug]

^ how old are you bro and whats your ethnicity?

 

[radiostationrep]

old enough to now know better. because of my racial sterotype and past, i'm definately the minority, not the majority. nothing personal towards you.

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

some information was misinformation. but all you guys that resort to the name calling wouldnt do so in reality so have your satisfaction.

How do you know? You dont know me, or anyone else on here, from a can of oil, slick....so dont make assumptions.

your guys way is that "white mentality", or i'm better than you. if not, you would have properly addressed my misinformation.

Having a higher interlect is just like anything else, like having more money, more women, etc...its bragging rights.

you support minority organizations but treat people the same way white america did. the reason for this thread. comedy at its finest. you'd be suprised what you could learn from a "douche bag".

Now youre just going to far. Stop insinuating shit that isnt there. This is the type of shit people are CLOWNING you for. "Oh no, peple dont agree with my view, that i blindly presented as fact,...therefore, everyone is just a bunch of elitists."

Translation:"I am not as smart as I thoguht I was, so I need to detract from that fact by taking the conversation to another subject to redeem myself."

You aint helpin your cause, buddy.

 

[radiostationrep]

delivery.trafficjunkie. some of you guys need a life.