fuck ziegest

[radiostationrep]

Read about Richard Aoki, the Japanese field marshall of the original Black Panther Party. The Panthers weren't totally racially motivated, you can't bypass the fact that they were socialist... they were class orientated with racial overtones, because they understood no one would do for the black community like blacks would, like the Young lords understood no one would do for PR's like Pr's, like the Brown Berets understood no one would do for Chicanos/Mexicans like Chicanos/Mexicans, et cetera.

And don't forget their lunch programs, clothing programs, busing programs, child development centers, free dental programs... they did so much more than fight fire with fire as you say, and it's actually sad that you as a person of color would diminish their attributes and contribution to society to violently confronting the police.

i will do some of the reading you mentioned. thank you.

when did i say i didnt agree with their beliefs or like you would say "diminish their attributes and contributions"? i'm aware that they have made positive contributions to the communities of their time. but because i dont agree with violence any longer unless threatened and because i've contributed to the exact things that allow the system and law enforcement to racially profile minorities, i'm sad or wrong? i've been profiled and railroaded by the system. i have every reason to be anti this and anti that and very bitter. but at the end of the day i keep it real with myself and understand i gave them the reason. i've rubbed elbows with some very radical individuals on the streets and behind the walls. that doesnt make me special but definately gives me a first hand look at the real picture. for media purposes it sounds very good, i agree. but behind the scenes it isnt what it seems. criminal activity is criminal activity. because the law prohibits it, they are profiling and targeting. there are innocent people that suffer but there are the guilty that claim to suffer. there is a difference.

 

[The Duke of Earl]

@ jae ill

i agree with alot of what you are saying. the BPP definately wasnt similiar to the kkk in belief. my point was that all kkk members were white, just like all BPP members were african american. i should have been a little more clear. i'm aware of the BPP beliefs and cause.they were organized around african american interests. they were racially profiling "white officers" and making sure african americans werent being unjustly detained and or arrested.
at that time the united states was adjusting to equal rights, regardless of the color of your skin. it was a tough time. i'm not against what the BPP stood for. i'm a firm believer however that fighting fire with fire isnt the answer, atleast now i do. i'm not saying they didnt affiliate with other non-african american organizations.but if they werent a racially motivated organization, they would have allowed members of all races and had a name without a racial reference. leaders lead by example. shooting it out with the police is radical behavior.

their lawyer was Armenia and considered a member

 

[HERESY]

i will do some of the reading you mentioned. thank you.

when did i say i didnt agree with their beliefs or like you would say "diminish their attributes and contributions"? i'm aware that they have made positive contributions to the communities of their time. but because i dont agree with violence any longer unless threatened and because i've contributed to the exact things that allow the system and law enforcement to racially profile minorities, i'm sad or wrong? i've been profiled and railroaded by the system. i have every reason to be anti this and anti that and very bitter. but at the end of the day i keep it real with myself and understand i gave them the reason. i've rubbed elbows with some very radical individuals on the streets and behind the walls. that doesnt make me special but definately gives me a first hand look at the real picture. for media purposes it sounds very good, i agree. but behind the scenes it isnt what it seems. criminal activity is criminal activity. because the law prohibits it, they are profiling and targeting. there are innocent people that suffer but there are the guilty that claim to suffer. there is a difference.

Now you're being a hypocrite and going way off topic.

Please, do us all that favor...

 

[The Duke of Earl]

an opinion isnt right or wrong.

your opinion is wrong

 

[radiostationrep]

your opinion is wrong

right on. you and your cheerleading squad can keep cheering. it really doesnt bother me one way or another. there is alot of things those books cant teach you. but you only know what you read, i know.

if this was 30 years in the future you guys would say the black muslim bakery organization was rightous. they did do some good for the community too.

 

[radiostationrep]

Now you're being a hypocrite and going way off topic.

Please, do us all that favor...

why dont you do yourself a favor..... get out and live a little. playing video games and constantly putting people down on internet forums proves the childish character you are my friend. in real life, i would eat you guys up in a face to face debate regarding these topics. it would be hilarious actually. yeah, i am a hypocrite. if anyone says their not, they are close minded individuals. i learn new things everyday that discredit my prior beliefs. hey, i'm human lord heresy.

 

[HERESY]

Stupidity at its finest...

right on. you and your cheerleading squad can keep cheering. it really doesnt bother me one way or another. there is alot of things those books cant teach you. but you only know what you read, i know.

if this was 30 years in the future you guys would say the black muslim bakery organization was rightous. they did do some good for the community too.

More fallacies.

why dont you do yourself a favor..... get out and live a little.

You once again speak on subject matter you know little about.

playing video games and constantly putting people down on internet forums proves the childish character you are my friend.

That would be true if I was playing videogames and constantly putting people on the internet down. However, I don't do either on a "consistant" basis (And since I have to explain myself to you, just ask those who have me on live whens the last time I've been on and they'll tell you at least a month) and I'm certainly not putting you down. However, I am shitting on your so-called opinions, beliefs and posts, and yes there is a distinct difference here.

in real life, i would eat you guys up in a face to face debate regarding these topics. i would be hilarious actually.

LMAO!

Yes, you would be hilarious. No doubt about it, buddy.

i am a hypocrite. if anyone says their not, they are close minded individuals.

+1 for the great philosophical spill.

i learn new things everyday that discredit my prior beliefs. hey, i'm human lord heresy.

Your sarcasm is lacking, and you should know behaving as a sycophant will earn you nothing around these parts.

That favor...get on it.

 

[Dhadnot]

i will do some of the reading you mentioned. thank you.

when did i say i didnt agree with their beliefs or like you would say "diminish their attributes and contributions"? i'm aware that they have made positive contributions to the communities of their time. but because i dont agree with violence any longer unless threatened and because i've contributed to the exact things that allow the system and law enforcement to racially profile minorities, i'm sad or wrong? i've been profiled and railroaded by the system. i have every reason to be anti this and anti that and very bitter. but at the end of the day i keep it real with myself and understand i gave them the reason. i've rubbed elbows with some very radical individuals on the streets and behind the walls. that doesnt make me special but definately gives me a first hand look at the real picture. for media purposes it sounds very good, i agree. but behind the scenes it isnt what it seems. criminal activity is criminal activity. because the law prohibits it, they are profiling and targeting. there are innocent people that suffer but there are the guilty that claim to suffer. there is a difference.

But what does this really have to do with what I wrote in regards to the BPP?

 

[The Duke of Earl]

if this was 30 years in the future you guys would say the black muslim bakery organization was rightous. they did do some good for the community too.

are you delusional ?

i havent read up on them but i'm guessin they believe the black man is god , and somethin about spaceships , and women are not equal to men . not very socialist

 

[The Duke of Earl]

Luther King believed in equal rights to all in economic distress, regardless of race. his beliefs werent radical like the black panthers. .

in context to what was going on at the time , MLK WAS A RADICAL , maybe he didn't condone violence, but he was going against the grain

 

[radiostationrep]

this time you decided to actually respond with a little insight, rather than say i make no sense without an explanation actually baffles me since you seem to take pride knowing all. it shows i'm on the right path in my observation of you. and for the record, the only shitting you are doing my friend is on your toilet seat in your house. i take pride in being an excellent provider to my family and actually have three toilets to choose from. i get no satisfaction from any of this. my sarcasm may be lacking because i'm not an internet icon like yourself. sorry, i do this in real life.

oh yeah......

our debate would be very humerous, we can all lmao to that.

and rather than talk down to people you should enlighten them with your knowledge. i would be all ears.

 

[radiostationrep]

But what does this really have to do with what I wrote in regards to the BPP?

it has to do with the fact that they want you to believe one thing, but it is the total opposite.

regardless of your take on me or my opinion, i can respect the fact you explained yourself.

 

[radiostationrep]

are you delusional ?

i havent read up on them but i'm guessin they believe the black man is god , and somethin about spaceships , and women are not equal to men . not very socialist

are you delusional?

 

[The Duke of Earl]

no you are but what i am ?


serious why would i look at your black Muslim bakery in a good light ? what views do i share with them ?

 

[radiostationrep]

no you are but what i am ?


serious why would i look at your black Muslim bakery in a good light ? what views do i share with them ?

well, you said fuck me because of my views on the BPP. i dont know what views you share with them. my point was that like the BPP, you are gonna have people who support them for what they do in the community and you will people who think they are a criminal organization for some conduct issues. there is valid points from both angles as with the BPP. every organization that expects community support has to be a socialist one, or pretend to be. that is done to get their personal agenda put into action.that is my opinion, or course.

 

[The Duke of Earl]

there is no angle with your black Muslim bakery , the only other view of the BPP is cointelpro and the peoples

 

[radiostationrep]

there is no angle with your black Muslim bakery , the only other view of the BPP is cointelpro and the peoples

that is your opinion and or view.

should i throw in a fuck you?

 

[The Duke of Earl]

you're a douche fuck you

 

[The Duke of Earl]

this time you decided to actually respond with a little insight, rather than say i make no sense without an explanation actually baffles me since you seem to take pride knowing all. it shows i'm on the right path in my observation of you. and for the record, the only shitting you are doing my friend is on your toilet seat in your house. i take pride in being an excellent provider to my family and actually have three toilets to choose from. i get no satisfaction from any of this. my sarcasm may be lacking because i'm not an internet icon like yourself. sorry, i do this in real life.

oh yeah......

our debate would be very humerous, we can all lmao to that.

and rather than talk down to people you should enlighten them with your knowledge. i would be all ears.

this is proof of you being a douche , not opinion , truth

 

[radiostationrep]

you're a douche fuck you

good looking out. i spend alot of time in your area and when i see you ( i do know exactly what you look like) i will give you an opportunity to tell me all about what i am. deal?