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he doesnt suggest it,literally. but the black panthers, much like the kkk, were a racially motivated organization. they were formed to protect the african american communities from mistreatment and racial profiling by the system(white america). they were, in a sense, racially profiling also.
he is a very interesting individual and brought up during a time when the civil rights movement was in full swing. he has a reason to be bitter, but not a reason to promote that bitterness towards laws and guidelines we all must follow. i dont agree with the system either, but am not blind to the fact that minorities, myself included, make it easy for the system to destroy us.
he is a very interesting individual and brought up during a time when the civil rights movement was in full swing. he has a reason to be bitter, but not a reason to promote that bitterness towards laws and guidelines we all must follow. i dont agree with the system either, but am not blind to the fact that minorities, myself included, make it easy for the system to destroy us.
thats the problem with this forum. an opinion that differs from yours gets you guys bent out of shape. then it turns into disrespectful comments. no problem. you would never address me like that in person so say what you want. this particular gentleman is using the political prisoner card as a rallying cry.
i would tell you'er wrong and fuck you in person ,were in the video does mumia abu-jamal say free me ? or in any of those videos ? again , the BPP worked with other organizations among them were the brown berets , the red guard , and the sds which was a predominately white organization, and you'er wrong
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im glad you to the time out to private message me
radiostationrep
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quit it.
no need for your pussy getting wet buddy
an opinion isnt right or wrong. that's where you are wrong. like i said, you wouldnt address me like that in person. tell yourself what you want. you can follow and hold onto to every word an individual, that has been on deathrow for almost 30 years, says. thats your opinion and perogative. i'm not knocking it. Martin Luther King believed in equal rights to all in economic distress, regardless of race. his beliefs werent radical like the black panthers. i agree with their original philosphy of protecting their people, but if it wasnt a racially motivated organization they would have protected ALL peoples rights, regardless of race. i dont mind conversing or arguing with anyone. i just dont appreciate the fuck yous and such. i understand some of you guys in here are actually educated and can respect that. some of you definately dont fit the criteria of 99.9% members on a gangsta rap forum. thats where i was wrong. have a nice day.
he has been shot down by the supreme court on a few occasions if i'm not mistaken. his followers believe he is a political prisoner, a card minorities try and play when they disagree with system after they have been tried and convicted. he was convicted of murdering a police officer. it wouldnt matter if your white, black, etc. your fate was sealed by your actions. if he isnt guilty, then i believe he has a valid argument in regards to being a political prisoner.
I'm pretty sure he disagreed with the system before he was tried and convicted by a jury of his "peers". And how can you say he has a reason to be bitter, but no reason to promote this bitterness to laws and guidelines we all must follow? What law did he break when he went to aid his brother who had been shot? What law did he break when he was shot by a policeman?
I think it definitely would matter if a white man rushed to help his brother who had been shot, and was then consequently shot by the police. I think if a white man had the same jury he had, and the same evidence, he would have not been charged with anything.
As far as what you say about the BPP, I can agree that they were a "racially motivated" organization in that they wanted to end racism by working within their community, and they wanted the organizations they worked with to end racism by working within their communities. However, to compare them to the KKK is ridiculous. The KKK is not an organization that aims to protect whites or to end oppression, they're strictly a racist organization aimed at keeping their communities "pure".
The BPP received a lot of criticism from black racists because of their views. Their struggle was definitely a class struggle, and not just a race struggle. They even worked with organizations that were made up of law enforcement who wanted to end racism within their police departments. So how were the Black Panthers racially profiling??
I think it definitely would matter if a white man rushed to help his brother who had been shot, and was then consequently shot by the police. I think if a white man had the same jury he had, and the same evidence, he would have not been charged with anything.
As far as what you say about the BPP, I can agree that they were a "racially motivated" organization in that they wanted to end racism by working within their community, and they wanted the organizations they worked with to end racism by working within their communities. However, to compare them to the KKK is ridiculous. The KKK is not an organization that aims to protect whites or to end oppression, they're strictly a racist organization aimed at keeping their communities "pure".
The BPP received a lot of criticism from black racists because of their views. Their struggle was definitely a class struggle, and not just a race struggle. They even worked with organizations that were made up of law enforcement who wanted to end racism within their police departments. So how were the Black Panthers racially profiling??
@ jae ill
i agree with alot of what you are saying. the BPP definately wasnt similiar to the kkk in belief. my point was that all kkk members were white, just like all BPP members were african american. i should have been a little more clear. i'm aware of the BPP beliefs and cause.they were organized around african american interests. they were racially profiling "white officers" and making sure african americans werent being unjustly detained and or arrested.
at that time the united states was adjusting to equal rights, regardless of the color of your skin. it was a tough time. i'm not against what the BPP stood for. i'm a firm believer however that fighting fire with fire isnt the answer, atleast now i do. i'm not saying they didnt affiliate with other non-african american organizations.but if they werent a racially motivated organization, they would have allowed members of all races and had a name without a racial reference. leaders lead by example. shooting it out with the police is radical behavior.
i agree with alot of what you are saying. the BPP definately wasnt similiar to the kkk in belief. my point was that all kkk members were white, just like all BPP members were african american. i should have been a little more clear. i'm aware of the BPP beliefs and cause.they were organized around african american interests. they were racially profiling "white officers" and making sure african americans werent being unjustly detained and or arrested.
at that time the united states was adjusting to equal rights, regardless of the color of your skin. it was a tough time. i'm not against what the BPP stood for. i'm a firm believer however that fighting fire with fire isnt the answer, atleast now i do. i'm not saying they didnt affiliate with other non-african american organizations.but if they werent a racially motivated organization, they would have allowed members of all races and had a name without a racial reference. leaders lead by example. shooting it out with the police is radical behavior.
Read about Richard Aoki, the Japanese field marshall of the original Black Panther Party. The Panthers weren't totally racially motivated, you can't bypass the fact that they were socialist... they were class orientated with racial overtones, because they understood no one would do for the black community like blacks would, like the Young lords understood no one would do for PR's like Pr's, like the Brown Berets understood no one would do for Chicanos/Mexicans like Chicanos/Mexicans, et cetera.
And don't forget their lunch programs, clothing programs, busing programs, child development centers, free dental programs... they did so much more than fight fire with fire as you say, and it's actually sad that you as a person of color would diminish their attributes and contribution to society to violently confronting the police.
And don't forget their lunch programs, clothing programs, busing programs, child development centers, free dental programs... they did so much more than fight fire with fire as you say, and it's actually sad that you as a person of color would diminish their attributes and contribution to society to violently confronting the police.