Floyd "Money" Mayweather vs. Saul "Canelo" Alvarez - September 14, 2013

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Floyd "Money" Mayweather vs. Saul "Canelo" Alvarez


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CZAR

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Boy oh boy just leave the man alone and until he loses stop saying how he couldve lost or this and that. The fact is he never lost and he beat most of those guys mentioned. The only exception are Marg & Pac and that was due to the fued with Arum. he wouldve beat both of those chumps to. Get over it. Got Em!!
 
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Mayweather might be losing his steam tho as far as fighting the best tho. I mean, let's say Bradley defeats JMM, then who would have the more impressive resume? Floyd or Tim? Who would be the best at 147?
 

CZAR

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Are u serious???? Its not even close. Who has Bradley beat? Manny controversially!! Anyone else?? I guess if he beats Marquez that will be his 2 good wins. How is that comparable to Mayweather's resume??? Got Em!!
 
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Well at the same time if he fought a gantlet of opponents, say like Froch, maybe he'd have a loss or two. If he fought Cotto, Margarito, Williams, Mosley, Cintron, all those guys when the division was HOT, rather than retiring for two years, maybe he loses one of those fights. But like Floyd said he's about self preservation. I have to speak on this Magarito got beat by Willaims 8 months after calling out Mayweather (which was really Bob Arum and Top Ranks way of trying to resigning Mayweather), then Williams loses to Quintana.

Mayweather fought Mosley, Cotto, and Manny ducked him two times. Paul Williams lost out on the fight because the Quintana fight, and Margarito is and always was a overhyped BUM.

Devon Alexander fought Lucas, Maidana, Bradley, and Khan probably next for all the hate and disrespect he gets Devon is a real warrior not fighting rematches like Froch.


That's why I never trip on an undefeated record. We look at past greats Leonard, Robinson, Ali, Archie Moore, etc, these guys fought very very tough opponents back to back to back, so naturally a guy is going to lose here or there because the competition is so fierce and frequent. lol.. People need to stop overhype the past fighters all the guys you listed up top 75% of their resume is full of bums and rematches. The may have fought more in the past but most of those fights were against bums. Mayweather has fought nothing but top rated 147lbers and in most cases a top 10 P4P fighter.

Not taking away from Floyd, he's AMAZING in the ring, but there is some truth to fighting once or twice a year that probably has assisted in his undefeated record. There is of course politics and money that factor in. I'm sure Robinson wouldn't fight twice a month if he was making $40 million a fight either!
It's a lot harder to take 2 years off and beat the number 2 P4P fighter in Marquez without showing ring rust, the great Manny couldn't do it fighting 2 times a year and with 4 trys.


Anderson Silva getting knocked the fuck out is just reinforcing how good Mayweather truly is and how hard it is to beat top level fighters.
 
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Yeah it's impressive not showing ring rust, but at the same time his body didn't go through the physical toll of fighting the top guys at that time. This is really talk about nothing on my part, really doesn't matter at this point but say if he did fight prime Cotto, Margarito, Williams, Cintron, Mosley, Pacquiao back to back when the division was very hot, maybe he loses a fight because the competition is so steep.

And yes I understand some of those fights were not realistic because of Top Rank or whatever, I'm speaking hypothetically of course (I'm not saying Floyd should have done this or he should have done that).
 
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CZAR @CZAR yeah, but he beat Peterson and Alexander, Floyd counts that Pac as a loss too, and if he beats Marquez and remains undefeated, that means he fought and beat all the best at 147 except Mayweather. Why can't the arguement be made that he's the best at 147 if Floyd never did that?
 

CZAR

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CZAR @CZAR yeah, but he beat Peterson and Alexander, Floyd counts that Pac as a loss too, and if he beats Marquez and remains undefeated, that means he fought and beat all the best at 147 except Mayweather. Why can't the arguement be made that he's the best at 147 if Floyd never did that?
Dude u said resume. Peterson & Alexander??? Please. Those dudes are not top level fighters. Marquez is and Manny is but again most dont even give him credit for beating Manny. U named 4 fighters which really only 2 get credit and one of those 2 he probably didnt really beat. It does not compare to Floyd's long resume of great wins. Just pull up both of their resumes and compare them. Its not even worth mentioning. Got Em!!
 
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I've been critical of Bradley in the past but imagine for a minute if he beats Marquez and then say Cotto. He would have wins over Pacquiao, Marquez, Cotto, Alexander, Peterson, Holt, Ruslan, Abregu, Witter.

If society collapsed, and 100 years from now only boxing records survived, people would look at Bradley's resume and think he was one if the greatest ever haha
 

Coach E. No

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Oh geez.... I compared him to him because of ring activity. Name another championship level fighter that took 5 years off and came back at that level. Floyd has never taken that much time off and you'll be hard pressed to find ANYONE to do that. I was saying it matter of factly. Not to mention that Leonard did it, came back at a weight higher than he had ever fought and fought the baddest dude in the ring at that time pretty much.
 
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Prolly some last minute bullshit from both parties. I can see them giving Garcia a re match clause cause he will be a underdog. And his camp knows that.
Bullshit from Matthysse? Doubtful. Danny is the one taking his sweet time fighting his mandatory in Lucas. Danny suddenly wanted drug tests. Done. Then Danny said its fishy Lucas trains in Argentina (where Lucas lives). Matthysse said he'll train in the US. Danny said he wants $2 million dollars. Done.

Lucas has done everything to make this fight. When he fought Peterson, it was Matthysse who requested the fight at 141 pounds so that way he wouldn't lose his mandatory spot to Danny by winning another belt. Basically he turned down Peterson's belt just so he can fight Garcia next.
 
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Bullshit from Matthysse? Doubtful. Danny is the one taking his sweet time fighting his mandatory in Lucas. Danny suddenly wanted drug tests. Done. Then Danny said its fishy Lucas trains in Argentina (where Lucas lives). Matthysse said he'll train in the US. Danny said he wants $2 million dollars. Done.

Lucas has done everything to make this fight. When he fought Peterson, it was Matthysse who requested the fight at 141 pounds so that way he wouldn't lose his mandatory spot to Danny by winning another belt. Basically he turned down Peterson's belt just so he can fight Garcia next.
Yea I guess I meant more of Danny's camp bullshitting and trying to stall. But I could see Matthysee camp trying to maximize this opportunity cause after Garcia gets destroyed on that card......it's big time for Matthysee!
 
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If Bradley beats Marquez he's top 3-5 P4P in my eyes. Lol. At Khan looking dumb for ducking the Bradley fight before Bradley fought Devon. It's funny how people forget that Khan turned down Bradley to fight Judah. Then after the Devon vs Bradley when Bradley clearly stated that he will sit out his contract to sign with Top Rank then Khan acts like he wants to fight. Bradley never ducked egg chin Khan.
 
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If Bradley beats Marquez he's top 3-5 P4P in my eyes. Lol. At Khan looking dumb for ducking the Bradley fight before Bradley fought Devon. It's funny how people forget that Khan turned down Bradley to fight Judah. Then after the Devon vs Bradley when Bradley clearly stated that he will sit out his contract to sign with Top Rank then Khan acts like he wants to fight. Bradley never ducked egg chin Khan.
Well I guess they both ducked eachother at different times. Although it wasn't really known at the time Bradley had a secret plan to sign with TR and fight Pacquiao so he got the last laugh in the end. When rumors of Bradley fighting Pacquiao I thought it was unrealistic!
 
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^^206, you know damn well I've calling Manny's next guys Pacman was fighting since he fought Cotto. I told you 2 years ago since Abril got robbed that Bum-Bum Rios was going to fight Manny. When you guys was saying Bradley was ducking Khan I said Bradley will be signing to Top Rank and fighting Manny. This shit is not top secret information Bradley said this was the last fight of his contract after the Devon fight, then he was on the undercard and front row in the crowd of the Manny vs. Marquez 3. Bradley is in shape, young, and doesn't know how to lose, that makes him very dangers for Marquez and any other fighter.