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^ no because FL got shitty low quailty instruments/drums
Yeah, but those with any common sense would NOT use those samples that it comes with. The way I look at it, those sounds that come with FL are there to showcase demo songs and tutorials that it comes with. The best way to go about it is to build up your own sample/plugin libraries. Yeah Reason has pretty good samples that it comes with (well atleast better than FL's), but then again look at the file size. FL is what a 100megabyte download now, and Reason is a full out CD, in the gigs range considering you need the Orkester and factory soundbank CDs. Bottomline, it's just best to build up your own shit in FL. Reason might potentially start you off better, because it should since it's more of a modular environment and your limited to no plugin support, therefore there should be more to start you off with. On the other hand, FL is very flexible, has plugin support and basically like a drummachine. It's made light, so you can build it up the way you want it to by adding your own samples and plugins.

As far as FL's own plugins, there's some pretty damn good ones, Sytrus, Poizone, Toxic, SliceX for chopping up samples. And FX like Maximus Multi-band Compression is a damn good plugin. Of course FL has it's own little shitty instruments like Plucked!, FL Keys, ...but you DON'T have to use them. I don't.
 
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i used to fuck with FL everyday but i realize that the sound quality werent sharp enuff/proper studio quality when i compared the FL beats to industry beats... i now use Reason to make beats and i gotta say the quality on that program is waaaay better then FL... the only good thing about FL is that they got good synths/drums but thats bout it...

i dont know if you know but "industry beats" are mastered when they are put out.why would you want to master your beat or compress the hell out of it before it goes to the artist?
 
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Most people I know who make beats in the industry who use MPC use it only to sequence and drums and sampling.......this is its strenghths...its not because of the pads..and even though the lets say 4000 can play synth sounds because its a multisampler which spreads the sample across all the keys I do not know anyone who uses it that way..they have better synths for that purpose..
 
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i dont know if you know but "industry beats" are mastered when they are put out.why would you want to master your beat or compress the hell out of it before it goes to the artist?
i already know that, but are willin to pay an expert engineer just to get the clear sound?... and if FL is going to set out drums/synths for you to use they should atleast be clear you know, just listen to Reason drums/synths they clear before you even add compressor/eqs on them... now FL you have to do some next shit just to get that clear sound on the drums/synths and even when the eqs/compressor have been added it still sounds like shit... thats what im sayin...
 
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Most people I know who make beats in the industry who use MPC use it only to sequence and drums and sampling.......this is its strenghths...its not because of the pads..and even though the lets say 4000 can play synth sounds because its a multisampler which spreads the sample across all the keys I do not know anyone who uses it that way..they have better synths for that purpose..
When it spreads the multi-sampled sounds out like that on the pads, are those sounds being stripped from a single-shot sample, or does it sample each individual note for that one sound, then lay them across the pads? I can imagine if it starts with only one root sound, the sound is going to sound pretty weak the farther away it gets in pitch from the root sound. Like if you take 1 piano sound sampled at C5, then take it up to C7, shit would probably sound pretty bad.
 
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^^^^ I believe so, but there are sample c.ds that will load up some good ones, but again I do not know anyone who does this with the MPC
Yeah, I don't think there's any point in doing it when there's plenty of good synths out there. Not to mention, all the multi-sample libraries out there that have each invidual note sampled at different velocity levels. That's the way to go, yeah their big in size (GIGS), but they sound great.
 
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i already know that, but are willin to pay an expert engineer just to get the clear sound?... and if FL is going to set out drums/synths for you to use they should atleast be clear you know, just listen to Reason drums/synths they clear before you even add compressor/eqs on them... now FL you have to do some next shit just to get that clear sound on the drums/synths and even when the eqs/compressor have been added it still sounds like shit... thats what im sayin...
But why in hell do you want to use the built-in sounds anyways. If everyone does that, their all going to sound like their using either FL or Reason, their sound will become too distinguishable. That's why FL gets clowned on because every lame ass chooses to use the built-in sounds. They act like they found a complete solution to making beats. Like I said before, it's best to BUILD UP your OWN libraries of samples and plugins. You think people who use MPC's stick to built in sounds (heck I don't even think MPCs come with built-in sounds), fuck nah, they sample their own shit whether they buy 3rd party samples or sample shit themselves. It's the same shit with FL or Reason, locate your own sounds. I just use FL because I like it as a sequencer, I find the workflow very easy. If I used Reason, it would be for the same reason.
 
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i already know that, but are willin to pay an expert engineer just to get the clear sound?... and if FL is going to set out drums/synths for you to use they should atleast be clear you know, just listen to Reason drums/synths they clear before you even add compressor/eqs on them... now FL you have to do some next shit just to get that clear sound on the drums/synths and even when the eqs/compressor have been added it still sounds like shit... thats what im sayin...
If you aren't willing to put in any work to make your beats then you might as well just get a loop cd and put the loops together. Better yet - just rip someone else's beat straight off their cd and sell it as a mix tape.

Real music requires real work. This is why the industry is saturated with such talentless GARBAGE.
 
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Its cool...but damn what the fuck is up with your drums..they always sound identical and the drum sounds are too bright or something...I think it is time for you to step it up..I know you can do it..I aint being too tough its just when i critique a beat I ask myself would a rapper want to rap on it..siccness and myspace rappers do not count...think of your favorite artist....
 
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Its cool...but damn what the fuck is up with your drums..they always sound identical and the drum sounds are too bright or something...I think it is time for you to step it up..I know you can do it..I aint being too tough its just when i critique a beat I ask myself would a rapper want to rap on it..siccness and myspace rappers do not count...think of your favorite artist....
NO I was kidding with you, I used FL Studio.

But anyways, yeah the drums, I used the same loop I used in another beat. haha I just like the pattern on that loop, it's basic, but I personally just like the way it sounds because it's suitable for a nice bassline on it. I like the swing or something. What do you mean the drums are too bright? You think the overall drumbeat is too loud, drums too forward in mix, or you think I need to throw like a lowpass filter on it? I just think the snare needs a little reverb.

As far as rappers on them, I don't even care. Like you said before, I also just make "grooves," I don't even think their rapable. Actually I think it would sound rapable if I took out that funky worm lead.


This is more "rapable" IMO:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/11138300d191b03c/
 
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i aint sure about what you need with the drums..it aint the mix its the sounds themselves..Maybe I do not have that issue because I sample into the 3000 and its good to go.....I could only pic someone like lil rob rappin on the new beat. what Im trying to convey is since you only making a groove and aint worrying about intros and choruses...and i know what sound you like...and the beats should be hard...Damn...just make a simple hihat quantized at 1/8 on a 4 bar loop and put the kick on the 1 and the 3 and clap on 2 and 4...make that shit snap...maybe add another kick right at the end of the 4 bars to make it swing at that point for a lil variation......then use a womp womp..gritty analog type bass and make that shit really funky..you aint gotta play the bass keys on each part of the bars like a perfect melody...just a bit to get the basic groove with the drums.....then maybe add 1 obnoxious type lead synth doing part of the melody and a different one completing the rest of the melody....maybe add just a few chords of electric piano continously through the 4 bars switching 1 chord for another at the beginning of the 3rd to the end of 4th.....then maybe you can mute the synth melody and use another electric piano or clav..in which you do not play chords and just lil melodys here and there or just 1 0r two notes...and thats about it...maybe you could even do a solo over the groove like your twin Ronald Jenkeys
 
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If you aren't willing to put in any work to make your beats then you might as well just get a loop cd and put the loops together. Better yet - just rip someone else's beat straight off their cd and sell it as a mix tape.

Real music requires real work. This is why the industry is saturated with such talentless GARBAGE.
true... im just going to shut the fuck up now... lol... check out my sig