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MALKI

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^im just saying this shit is entertainment to me and also i be learning shit on here so why mess up all the fun

edit oh shit u right i guess the rules say dont post beats LOL
 
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Nothing..but you did make a funny comment when I posted thisnew young sau song i with this Rock sample I got from my homie....I think this beat is hard as fuck....
http://www.zshare.net/audio/9246363fe8ede7/
I know I think I did make a funny comment, but I was being sarcastic. I said something like "rock on" or something. If I remember, I think I posted up a picture of George Bush throwing up the devil horns. lol Anyways, I never said I didn't like the beat Young Sau rapped on, I think it was sick. I don't mind when Hiphop and rock mix, shit sounds dope if you do it right and that Young Sau song was cool. The beat has a lot of energy in it. :cool: If new rap somehow emerged into an all new Hiphop/Rock movement with beats like that, I probably would actually listen to it. These beats go way harder than any fucking club hyphy/crunk/snap shit. I would definitely slap that shit in my car.
 
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thats not true... different programs do color the audio differently..the way they process the audio is different from program to program....

if i can find the link where i saw all the "daw" programs compared ill show you.. but fruity was a little darker and thinner then cubase and pro tools
Find it, I wouldn't mind to see it. However, one time I was reading on kvr-audio and someone posted up a display of programming code pertaining to exporting or just the output of the sound, and the code was exactly the same for every program listed, including FL, Cubase,etc... I really don't know man, I mean FL Studio does get a lot of praise on professional sites. I don't think people would reccommend it or use it if it was considered that bad. I'm sure ImageLine is up to par.


One thing I would believe is the volume of the sound might be different when played without making any adjustments. For example, whenever you add in a new sound to FL studio, the default "channel volume" setting for that sound would be "78%." I have no clue why they chose that amount. Then there's the volume section of the mixer and by default that's set to 100%.
 
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I've let a lot of you slide on using threads to sneak in 'check out my beats' posts but enough is enough when the forum is more about people trying to show a 'beat they just made' and less about real production info. It's not a coincidence that the more spam there is, the less interested real professionals (myself included) are in participating here. It's exactly why many of them have left, which only hurts the people who truely want to learn in the end. If you just want people to listen to your beats then use a different forum.

The rules have always been the same.. Don't spam and don't post piracy-related info. When the rules were enforced, we had a nice professional environment with tons of great info for people to learn from. When they're not, things get corny real fast and the people willing to share real knowledge start leaving.

Anyone confused about what this place 'is supposed to be' (there are a few of you) should go read:
http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=107332

Hopefully the forum can get back on track and return to what it once was. It should have never been allowed to slip in the first place.
 
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I understand, but I was trying to make a point about FL, considering the thread is about FL8. I was indeed trying to talk about production technics about FX, samples, plugins n shit to make FL sound better rather than sticking with the built-in sounds like so many people do. There's people that need help with FL and that's what I was trying to show. Just saying FL sucks, get Cubase, get Reason, get Pro-Tools, get an MPC, ain't going to help. FL is just a tool like every other program and there's ways to improve it so you avoid it's stock bullshit that it comes with. Not to mention, like I've said, I'm the one that even created this thread in the first place so I feel I should be able to chime in and demonstrate a few samples to back up what I'm saying. It's not like I created a new thread and called it "listen to my new beat," now that's more on the spamming side. But within a relevant thread and a single link, cmon. But whatever, it's all good, the rules are the rules. I guess we can all just talk, but don't back it up because that's exactly what it is. People claim to be Pro's or atleast have high knowledge about audio here, but they don't back it up. How about posting up some knowledge and backing it up with audio clips or "beats." That's just how I feel, but it's all good. I would think audio clips would make the forum more interactive, but I guess not. There's always KVR forum which is highly interactive, knowledge and clips to back-up & teach.
 
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First of all, I deleted your post telling everyone what pirated software name to search for, not a "beat". Secondly, this forum isn't about people making claims and then having to 'prove it' by posting a bunch of beats. Come on now. In the past, when more of us participated, people didn't get the chance to fake because they were corrected pretty quickly. Since the rise of that crap spamming and decline of interest by people who do know what they're talking about, more people have been getting away with it. You can learn what's true and what's not by doing some research on your own and not believing everything you read in a forum. There's not going to be any of that corny ass "oh yeah, prove it then" garbage here. There's only a few of us left, would you rather we all leave so the only thing the forum has to offer is other newbies?
 
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OK, I can understand you deleting the file name of the cracked version. My bad on that. But you did delete the "beat" I posted in a few messages after that. I just thought that "beat" was relevant to what I was saying. Whatever though, it's all good, fuck it, doesn't make a difference anyways.

So bottomline, we can't post up our beats in this section of the forum.

But lets say we create a thread on "How to create a synthesized kick" Can we then post a link showing how that kick sounds using a specific VSTi plugin or something to backup what were saying? So basically a tutorial. Or do you not want any audio clips posted up what so ever?


There's really nothing interesting going on here anymore. So the "newbies" wanting to learn will just leave.
 
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If it actually serves a legitimate purpose then cool. If it comes off as spam then not cool.

However, if people just want a place to post beats and bullshit with each other then maybe it's time for change. The music business isn't what it used to be and I don't honestly think most people here now take it as serious as others did in the past who were actually trying to break into the business. Seems more like a hobby crowd these days for the most part. Which is fine, just completely different from why this forum was created in the first place years ago.

We'll see...
 
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If it actually serves a legitimate purpose then cool. If it comes off as spam then not cool.

However, if people just want a place to post beats and bullshit with each other then maybe it's time for change. The music business isn't what it used to be and I don't honestly think most people here now take it as serious as others did in the past who were actually trying to break into the business. Seems more like a hobby crowd these days for the most part. Which is fine, just completely different from why this forum was created in the first place years ago.

We'll see...
IF THE ARTISTS CAN POST THERE SINGLES OFF ALBUMS OR LINKS WHERE TO BUY THEY ALBUMS WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME WHO CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN?
 
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This forum is not for people who want to post singles and links/advertisements to purchase their music, regardless of what you think you 'should be able to do' here. In this forum that's considered spam and will be deleted. If the problem continues, then the user will be removed.

As far as sound quality.. To me it means everything.. The quality of the recording, processing, mixing, and mastering.
 
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I havent used FL8 yet, but FL7 works fine for me. You can make your own sounds if you don't like the stock sounds, or just use vst's like a few folks said. And yeah, the sound is a little thin IF YOU LEAVE EVERYTHING DRY. You have to use eq, compressors, reverb, etc. There are some decent plug ins to do all that that come with it, and better ones you can get separately. I think a lot of people say they dont like it because they hear about how easy it is to use and then they think they can be the new Dre with it. Then when they realize "OH SHIT IT ACTUALLY DOES TAKE A LITTLE TALENT TO MAKE GOOD MUSIC!" they blame the workstation instead of the incompetent worker. Some people have good reasons to not like FL, but the people I'm talking about dont make good music on anything because they suck, and every time they get a new program/piece of hardware and they cant do shit with it, they blame the hardware/program and talk about "If I had a Triton/Fantom/Motif/MPC/Logic/Pro Tools/SSL Mixer/Nord Lead III/Moog Voyager/Casio PSR/Sony My First Studio then my shit would sound right!"
 
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The majority of people coming out with shit will always go for the lowest common denominator. I don't think it matters whether people post beats or not - maybe there should be a permanent sticky thread for beats only - but even through all the bullshit, the true artists will always rise to the top.

I think FL is tight. No problems with it. I use that and cubase. Haters better check your beats first before you try to talk shit. And I'm willing to bet that most people are incdonsistent with their reasoning behind hating fl. You talk about how although Cubase, FL, Protools can all be at 24bit/96khz, you can tell the difference in the audio quality of the same sample. However if you are such a purist you would be using analog tape and analog hardware synthesizers, and recording live instrumentation, not using your little 808 vst plugin with your triton. To me, its all good. I use analog equipment and digital equipment as well. The average listener is not going to be able to differentiate. It's the artistic skill and dedication being put into the composition that makes a difference for me,, not the equipment involved.
 
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The majority of people coming out with shit will always go for the lowest common denominator. I don't think it matters whether people post beats or not - maybe there should be a permanent sticky thread for beats only - but even through all the bullshit, the true artists will always rise to the top.

I think FL is tight. No problems with it. I use that and cubase. Haters better check your beats first before you try to talk shit. And I'm willing to bet that most people are incdonsistent with their reasoning behind hating fl. You talk about how although Cubase, FL, Protools can all be at 24bit/96khz, you can tell the difference in the audio quality of the same sample. However if you are such a purist you would be using analog tape and analog hardware synthesizers, and recording live instrumentation, not using your little 808 vst plugin with your triton. To me, its all good. I use analog equipment and digital equipment as well. The average listener is not going to be able to differentiate. It's the artistic skill and dedication being put into the composition that makes a difference for me,, not the equipment involved.

Well said. That last part is what means the most to me as well.
 
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The average listener is not going to be able to differentiate. It's the artistic skill and dedication being put into the composition that makes a difference for me,, not the equipment involved.
100% true the equiptment used is just a tool nothing more. just cuz u got an mpc and a raw ass keyboard dont mean your beats are any beter than a cat with fruity loops and some vsts.

i was over at this cats house the other day selling him some beats and he busts out his roland keyboard he paid $5000 dollars for or something in '02 and plays me a bunch of his beats. Nothing against his beats but when i played mine it spoke for itself and i got paid. there was a reason he copped from me considering he can make beats already.

now i dont have a bunch of fancy equiptment or a big old keyboard but i have my tools and i know how to use them.

i use reason by the way to me - my tool of choice. it was funny cuz i went through the board and it was a bunch of generic ass sounds
 
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I havent used FL8 yet, but FL7 works fine for me. You can make your own sounds if you don't like the stock sounds, or just use vst's like a few folks said. And yeah, the sound is a little thin IF YOU LEAVE EVERYTHING DRY. You have to use eq, compressors, reverb, etc. There are some decent plug ins to do all that that come with it, and better ones you can get separately. I think a lot of people say they dont like it because they hear about how easy it is to use and then they think they can be the new Dre with it. Then when they realize "OH SHIT IT ACTUALLY DOES TAKE A LITTLE TALENT TO MAKE GOOD MUSIC!" they blame the workstation instead of the incompetent worker. Some people have good reasons to not like FL, but the people I'm talking about dont make good music on anything because they suck, and every time they get a new program/piece of hardware and they cant do shit with it, they blame the hardware/program and talk about "If I had a Triton/Fantom/Motif/MPC/Logic/Pro Tools/SSL Mixer/Nord Lead III/Moog Voyager/Casio PSR/Sony My First Studio then my shit would sound right!"

haha! yup i heard people talk like that too many times before about that. that's real
 

GHP

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the main reason people hate on FL is because for years people got hijacked copies of it from the net and acted like they were superstars with their janky beats they made with the stock sounds and nothing else