Essential Rules to being a Norteno

WHITE DEVIL · Dec 9, 2005

So E, is your word gospel truth the second you write it?

It's a great fool, not a wise man, or a G, who is not able to admit to his own weaknesses or wrongdoings. I highly doubt you have ever taken shit back, regardless of how wrong it was. And even if I am wrong, and you've taken a million statements back, you still a hermit crab-ass mofucka knowitall whose pride and stubbornness is much larger than your ability or want to learn. And that's probly a badge of honor to you. To each their own.

Why did I miss your point? I misinterpreted the context of the statement.

And callin this thread "daming those who I was raised with" is ridiculous. The fact that I don't wanna see my homeboy go to jail for 20 years because he had to uphold the integrity of the block and the liquor store he drank 40s in front of, that's not damning my peoples. That's looking at straight out stupidity in action and being frustrated.

When I see people who were alot smarter than me growin up in and out of the pen, hittin me up for spare change for a tall can and a ride somewhere when they see me, that ain't some shit I'm proud of. That ain't some shit I would want my folks to be proud of.

"Oh but that's the block that's the hood that's just how it be" - I've never believed this. And maybe that makes us different, because you do or you did, and the fact that I don't means shit. The fact that I'm not proud of my cuzzo bangin the block dont make me a simp or a coward.

It's the real simp ass niggas that strap up and tell themselves they can't do shit else. It's the real cowards that talk about bangin and the block like it's some great cause man. Like the Tacqueria, the liquor store, and the phone booth bout to give daps when you get out. It's a shame to me when my peoples take that route. Call me a phoney and a square and a coward for thinkin that...that's all you.

EDJ · Dec 9, 2005

^LOL. AND YOU WOULD SPEAK TO ME THIS WAY IF WE WERE FACE TO FACE RIgHT? AND YOU USIN' THE "N" WORD BOTHERS ME FOR TWO REASONS(MAYBE EVEN MORE).

#1. YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS USIN' IT. HELL, YOU EVEN CONTEMPLATED JOININ' THE ARYAN BROTHERHOOD. WHAT THE FUK THAT SOUND LIKE? EVEN IF YOU WAS THE DOWNEST WHITEBOY, YOU REVOKED THAT RIgHT OR PRIVILEDgE.

#X. YOU WAS JUST RIDICULIN' YOUR NORTENO HOMEBOYS FOR USIN' THAT WORD, LIKE THEY WAS SOME CHICANO WIggERS TRYIN' TOO HARD "TO BE BLAK"(gOOD THANg YOU ERASED IT, HUH?) SO NOW YOU THE HYPOCRITE, DOIN' WHAT YOU RIDICULED THEM OF DOIN'.

SO LET ME ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS,

YOU STRESSED, "So E, is your word gospel truth the second you write it?"

WHAT I SPIT IS NOTHIN' BUT 151% gRADE A gAME FROM A MUTHA-FUKA WHOSE BEEN HERE AND THERE, AND THERE AND HERE. IF YOU CAN DIg IT, THAN SOAK IT, IF NOT, DON'T FUK WITH IT. SIMPLE AS THAT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "It's a great fool, not a wise man, or a G, who is not able to admit to his own weaknesses or wrongdoings."

IS THAT RIgHT? WHO TOLD YOU THIS?

THEN YOU STRESSED, " I highly doubt you have ever taken shit back, regardless of how wrong it was. And even if I am wrong, and you've taken a million statements back, you still a hermit crab-ass mofucka knowitall whose pride and stubbornness is much larger than your ability or want to learn. And that's probly a badge of honor to you. To each their own."

LOL. HOW DARE YOU TRY AND PERCEIVE ME AND ATTEMPT TO JUDgE ME? LET YOUR MONITOR BE YOUR "KEY" DEFENSE. I ALWAYS STRESSED THAT I DON'T KNOW IT ALL, CAUSE WE ALL DON'T. EVERYDAY I LEARN SAMETHIN' NEW. CHEK YOURSELF.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Why did I miss your point? I misinterpreted the context of the statement."

AND ALL THIS TIME I THOUgHT YOU WERE SMARTER THAN THAT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "And callin this thread "daming those who I was raised with" is ridiculous. The fact that I don't wanna see my homeboy go to jail for 20 years because he had to uphold the integrity of the block and the liquor store he drank 40s in front of, that's not damning my peoples. That's looking at straight out stupidity in action and being frustrated."

NAW, IT WAS MORE THAN THAT. IF I WAS FRUSTRATED AT MY BOYS, I WOULDN'T COME ON THE INTERNET AND RIDICULE THEM. IS THAT WHY YOU TOOK IT BAK?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "When I see people who were alot smarter than me growin up in and out of the pen, hittin me up for spare change for a tall can and a ride somewhere when they see me, that ain't some shit I'm proud of. That ain't some shit I would want my folks to be proud of."

NOBODY SAID YOU SUPPOSED TO BE PROUD OF THAT SHIT. THE gAME OF LIFE IS TO ELEVATE. REALITY IS ALOT OF US ARE OPPRESSED WITH NO WAY OUT AND ALL WE gOT IS OUR PRIDE. AND PRIDE IS #1 IN SHIT POPPIN' OFF, CAUSE OUR EgOS IS A MUTHA-FUKA.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Oh but that's the block that's the hood that's just how it be" - I've never believed this. And maybe that makes us different, because you do or you did, and the fact that I don't means shit. The fact that I'm not proud of my cuzzo bangin the block dont make me a simp or a coward."

NO, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT YOU DOWNED WHAT HE'S ALL ABOUT, LIKE YOU BETTER OR SAMETHIN'. DIS THE WAYS, DON'T DIS THE MAN. THE BLOK IS ALL HE gOTS OR SEES. YOU LIKE A TRUE FRIEND HAVE TO MAKE HIM SEE. NOT CLOWN HIM ON THE INTERNET FOR STRANgERS.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "It's the real simp ass niggas that strap up and tell themselves they can't do shit else. It's the real cowards that talk about bangin and the block like it's some great cause man."

ATLEAST THEY STOOD UP AND BELIEVED IN SAMETHIN'. DON'T MAKE IT RIgHT, DON'T MAKE IT WRONg. JUST KNOW I'D RATHER DIE LIKE A MAN, BELIEVIN' IN SAMETHIN', THEN LIVIN' LIKE A COWARD AND NOT STANDIN' UP FOR SHIT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Like the Tacqueria, the liquor store, and the phone booth bout to give daps when you get out. It's a shame to me when my peoples take that route. Call me a phoney and a square and a coward for thinkin that...that's all you."

YOUR SARCASTIC HUMOR IS BEYOND ME, AND JUST LET'S ME KNOW THAT YOU QUIK TO STEREOTYPE THOSE AROUND YOU. JUST HOPE YOUR HOMIES NEVA EVA HEAR THRU THE gRAPEVINE THAT YOU WAS DISSIN' THEM. YOUR INTENTIONS AND CLAIMS ARE gENUINE, BUT YOU WENT LEFT WITH IT TOO EARLY. BOY I'M gLAD YOU WASN'T RAISED AROUND ME.

WHITE DEVIL · Dec 9, 2005

Number 0 is, I'd talk this way to your face. And if you wanna do the dummy about it thats on you.

Number 1 is, I made fun of the homeboys who use NOTHING but slang. That shit gets old.

Number 2 is, that's the whole reason this internet shit exist. My people know how I feel. I don't hide shit from nobody. Because I vented frustration than later took it back, that proves I gone out on my homeboys? Hell nah. The fact I don't use the honor system and ring peoples up like "hey uhh Romarlowe, I'm clownin you. Go this web address. Double you double you double you dot siccness dot net forward slash vb forward slash showthread dot php question mark p equals one seven one nine two two 8. Ight? Ok see ya there buddy" I don't think ...so.

Number 3 is, niggas around the fuckin world be sayin that shit blood I ain't gotta quote half the philosophers who ever existed. If you can't take back a statement, you can't learn. If you think your word or your ideas is superior to anybody else's, then you ain't out to advance yourself. You in love with the sound of your own voice. You ain't come here to learn in the first place. You out here tryin to preach to people.

I'll repeat myself. Only a great fool believes he makes no mistakes or is always correct. Talkin bout yo game and what niggas got to soak man that's more pride regardless of what game you spittin. You talkin bout ego is a mothafucka well you be dat then. And what? That's it right there. You consistently speak down at a mofucka like "Well the mighty EDJ says" - you out here constantly talkin like you better than people, especially since you on that hood tip and most of these whiteboy faggots ain't.

Number 4 is it wasn't more than that. You tell me when you mad at people you say the entire shit to they face every time? And if you do, once again that's you, but the way I was taught is sometimes you gotta keep shit to yourself. If you tell everyone and everything you have a problem with at the time every time, you dont know how to act in my opinion. That's just what causes more problems.

Number 5 is I took it back not just because it was dissin my folks and I realized just how wrong I was, because there are dudes on this board who took offense that it applied to that obviously made the statement incorrect as a generalization.

I understand the fact that some niggas is definitely oppressed with no way out. It's a shame, and once you get some play in the system, it just makes it twice as hard. But I'm tryin to elevate my people, and it's frustratin as fuck when people don't want the help.

For example I believe in makin money. I believe in success. You about to tell me I don't believe in shit? You think it's hard to risk your life for some shit? That's easy man that's easy as fuck. I could put my life in danger in one second. That ain't grindin in my opinion. Sellin dope and makin dumb money off it that ain't grindin' either man. Half the dudes who call that a grind could not handle school or a real job, cause they too afraid that people will call them stupid or incapable. The same dudes who will end ya life in a second don't try because of fear of racism, or fear of shame, or fear deep down that when white people talk about they stupid, maybe some part of it might be right, so why risk it? That's a part of racism people don't talk about. Constant racism does and can imbed a fear in people that maybe part of it is true. Because they might get called stupid, or people might think that behind their back, dudes is afraid of that slow grind (the real grind) and go for that fast money. It's more scary to be thought of as incapable or stupid than to get shot. And that's backwards ass logic, but that's how it is.

But to tell me I went out on my folks, I don't think so. You just got your own opinion on that.

And the fact that often you don't get my sarcasm - it's no different when you put a square ass white kid in a room with ghetto ass niggas and he tryin to pick up what they sayin. It's just a different mentality. And the fact I do it does not mean I stereotype, at all. Like so many other things in this, thats on you.

thatguy · Dec 9, 2005

wtf is the point of this thread, only on the internet will fools sit with eachother and have long conversations over how lame another gang is

EDJ · Dec 10, 2005

WHITE DEVIL,
YOUR BARK IS BIgKER THAN YOUR BITE.

0. YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO DO THAT SHIT PLAYA. IF YOUR CARD CAN gET PULLED ON THIS INTERNET SHIT, HOW YOU THINK YOU WOULD gET HANDLED IN REAL LIFE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU THE ONE COMIN' SIDEWAYS WITH IT?

1. SO USIN' SLANg IS SOMETHIN' THAT'S A FAD TO YOU? TO SOME OF US, THAT'S JUST HOW WE TALK AND COMMUNICATE. IT'S PART OF US. YOU A SWITCH UP ARTIST WITH NO BAKBONE WHO MAKES FUN OF HIS OWN AND THINK IT'S JUST A gAME THAT YOU COULD TURN ON OR OFF.

X. IT'S HOW YOU WENT ABOUT IT. IS THAT WHY YOU TOOK IT BAK? SO WHAT ARE YOU DEFENDIN'? IT SEEMS LIKE YOU TRYIN' TO JUSTIFY BOTH AND THEY CONTRADICTORY. DID YOU MAKE A MISTAKE OR DIDN'T YOU MAKE A MISTAKE? WHICH ONE IS IT?

3. THAT'S YOUR PERCEPTION. I NEVA SAID I WAS BETTER OR THOUgHT I WAS BETTER THAN N-E-BODY ELSE. I JUST KNOW WHAT I KNOW AND SPEAK UP ON IT. AND LET OTHAS SPEAK UP ON THEIRS, AND IF I CAN SOAK IT, I WILL. AND IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW BY NOW, I DON'T PREACH, I SPIT gAME.

F. LOOK MAN, YOU TRYIN' TO TELL A gROWN ASS MAN HOW TO ACT AND CONFRONT SITUATIONS AND THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHERE I HAD TO SWALLOW MY PRIDE TO gET AHEAD OR TO NOT STUMBLE. I DON'T WALK AROUND STICCIN' OUT MY CHEST LIKE BAK IN THE DAY. IT AIN'T ABOUT BRUTE FORCE. IT'S ABOUT YOUR MENTAL AND BUILDIN' IT UP FROM THERE. BUT I TELL YOU THAT I WON'T BE DISRESPECTED AND LET OTHAS DO SO.

5. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THERE IS PEOPLE THAT WOULD HUNT YOU DOWN, INTERNET OR NO INTERNET. ONE OF THESE LIL NORTENOS MIgHT KNOW ANOTHA NORTENO WHO KNOWS ANOTHA NORTENO WHO KNOWS ONE OF YOUR BOYS WHO MIgHT NOT TAKE TOO KINDLY WHAT YOU STRESSED OR STRESSIN' AND TAKE IT THE WRONg WAY. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT LIFE CAN BRINg. BUT YOU LAK RESPECT PLAYA, ON THE REAL. DON'T LIKE THE LIFESTYLE FOR YOURSELF, BUT DON'T gO OUT ON A LIMB TO TRY AND BELITTLE THE ONES AROUND YOU CAUSE YOU FRUSTRATED.

AND FOR THE REST OF YOUR COMMENT. IT AIN'T ABOUT HAVIN' A JOB AND KISSIN' WHITE ASS. IT'S ABOUT HAVIN' THE EDUCATION AND SKILL TO HAVE YOUR OWN BUSINESS, HUSTLE, SKILL, AND/OR CRAFT, TO HELP YOURSELF AND THOSE AROUND YOU. IT'S ABOUT BEIN' SELF-SUSTAININ', FOCUSED, AND DISCIPLINED.
YOU MUST THINK I CONDONE SLANgIN' ON THE BLOK FOREVA OR COMIN' UP OFF LIKS. THAT'S SHIT YOU HIT AND QUIT. YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE. YOU'LL NEVA EVA HEAR OF A 20 YEAR DOPE SLANgA. THAT SHIT AIN'T A CAREER.
AND YOU SELLIN' YOURSELF SHORT BY TRYIN' TO JUSTIFY THE WHITE MAN'S RACISM TALKIN ABOUT THE FEAR THAT THEIR IgNORANCE IS HALF RIgHT. HELL NAW THEY AIN'T RIgHT. JUST CAUSE SOME OF US SAY, "THE HELL WITH IT" AND gO DO THE STEREOTYPE ON PURPOSE CAUSE WE FIgURE THEY gONNA LABEL AND JUDgE US N-E-WAY, DOESN'T MEAN THAT SHIT IS RIgHT.
AS FAR AS YOUR SARCASM, KEEP IT TO YOUR SELF. THAT gET'S OLD AND ANNOYIN', WHILE YOU TALKIN' BOUT SLANg DO.

WHITE DEVIL · Dec 10, 2005

First of all I do what I do regardless. If you wanna get hyphy over some bullshit that's on you...see me when you see me on that shit. You talkin like I ain't know what the fuck time it is you think I'm some scary ass peckerwood that be talkin bout wassup my nigga to every black man I see and then get to steppin when they raise up nah...

But in Frisco aybody is "nigga". That's how we do it out here. You will see a white bitch talkin to a asian dude talkin bout "aye my nigga". That's just what it is. You talkin bout my card gon get pulled man but all you know is what you see from this online shit so you really ain't even knowin in the first place. If you think I'm scared you trippin. If you think im spooked about niggas pullin my card you still trippin.

Once again it ain't about the fact that people use slang, but when you ain't talk shit but slang 24/7, and don't think shit wrong with that, that's a lack of mobility. Slang is culture on one hand. On another hand slang is a barrier that restricts your communication and gives off an impression that you're uneducated. Slang is the universal sign of poverty, from Dubai to Shanghai to Iowa. The poorer one is, the more slang they use.

Am I sayin I can't chop it up wit niggas? Hell nah. You think if I'm not around some peckerwood ass Brady Bunch niggas ima get confused and be out of my league like?The way I grew up that's all it was 24/7 is that street shit. But it's about being multifaceted. Just like learning a new language expands your networking possibilities, learning the language of money (economics, education, professionalism) is an important step to financial independence. You wouldn't walk into a business meeting like "what it do my nigga yaddddamean doin thangs cuzzo all official". Yet some people don't know how to talk a different way.

This is another area where you can either learn from the street or become the street. If you become the street you've chosen your own destiny, and 9 times out of 10 thats failure. Like you said you cant be slangin or pullin a lik when you 40 years old. When you talkin bout me "turnin on and off" essentially my connection to the street or my history or the culture that I grew up to understand, that is a faulty ass statement. You can't just turn off who you are and what you see. You don't forget the first 20 years of your life because you don't talk in slang 24/7. It's a lifestyle to you because you choose it. You could seek out an environment where people don't use nothin but slang, but that would involve entering the white world that you are so in opposition to.

Anyways blood this is turn into a essay. You think I'm a chameleon, a phony, and a buster. I think you a knowitall ass hermit nigga that will never learn because he too hard for everybody and he on top of the game.

And I ain't scared of nobody comin after me. Homeboys (nortenos) have a honor system, that's somethin I give mad respect for, and if they knew I was folks of somebody or knew I was from the hood, I doubt I would get fucked with. And about the honor thing, that's some shit these internet niggas don't know about...but most of them follow it. And anyways I doubt niggas is out pullin cards off some online shit. Even most of my boys who bang today don't be stayin online like most of these heads out here.

And thinkin that you have to kiss white ass to get a job is just more self-defeat shit. The rules are the same from China to fuckin the Congo and back here. You get educated, you get a job *or* start your own business, but you still have to speak the language of money, which is more important than any slang or stayin true to the block.

I'm not justifying white racism, I'm saying that built into the psychic system of denial, rejection of society, and refusal to try is a latent element of fear - fear that white people may, on some level, be right. Or, the fear that either while it isn't true, "they'll make it look that way because they won't give a nigga a chance from the get". That's self-defeat right there. I think on some level when niggas say "Fuck it" it's just not that it's an issue or not caring. I think there is an element of hurt embedded in seeing a society that marginalizes you or you perceive that.

And as far as the sarcasm goes, I ain't about to switch up for nobody. That's just me.

And @ the editing shit, I did realize my comments was wrong. They were started out of frustration but ended up just generalizing and not having a point. That's what tends to happen when people don't consider their words and just blurt shit.

EDJ · Dec 10, 2005

^NOW YOU ACT LIKE YOU COMIN' FROM A HOOD PERSPECTIVE. A LITTLE TOO LATE. JUST KNOW YOU REALIZED YOUR BAD LIKE THE LAST TIME. AND FOR THE RECORD, YOU AIN'T gOTTA BE SCARED OF ME. LIKE SOMEBODY I HEARD IN THE UFC SAY, "DON'T FEAR ME, FEAR THE CONSEQUENCES". AND PLEASE OUT OF RESPECT, QUIT USIN' THE "N" WORD.

WHITE DEVIL · Dec 10, 2005

I give a fuck less about whether you think I got a hood pass.

I ain't scared.

And I don't use the word very often in the first place.

EDJ · Dec 10, 2005

^THEN WHY BOMBARD ME? YOU AIN'T gOT TO BE SCARED.

WHITE DEVIL · Dec 10, 2005

See now you makin too much of it. That's just the back and forth of any argument.

saladbowlking · Dec 12, 2005

thatguy said:

YUP, FOOLS ARE DOIN TOO MUCH AROUND HERE!!

EDJ · Dec 13, 2005

WHITE DEVIL,
JUST KNOW THIS IS THE XND TIME

WHITE DEVIL · Dec 13, 2005

Fucky McFuckerson · Dec 13, 2005

WHITE DEVIL said:

And that makes it right?Cmon now...my folkelles resides in San Jo...hes white...that shit never leaves his mouth...and he be in the streetsof the Bay...so cut the crap...

WHITE DEVIL · Dec 13, 2005

That's your boy then...

That aint got shit to do wit me once again.

Also he probly scared in the first place that he would be called on it. It's like the "whiteboys wit cornrows" shit, it ain't just a haircut so be prepared to back your shit.

Also lmao @ "Cut the crap!" ok Kobe.

Fucky McFuckerson · Dec 13, 2005

WHITE DEVIL said:

Scared?No...just not disrespectful...

LOL@ other ethnic groups usin the word "nigga"....ignorant ass...

If youre white...you shouldnt be wearin corn rows...it looks fuckin retarded...get a clue...

And i dont ever agree with EDJ....but hes 206% right...you bein HALF white....and then sayin youd join the AN...but then use the word "nigga"...youre confused homie...

Once again...cut the crap...

WHITE DEVIL · Dec 13, 2005

Cut the crap man cut the crap! Gosh darn diddly! It's fuckin Retarded bro fuckin retarded! Fuckin A!

Fuck the bullshit...Other ethnic groups can't use the word nigga, cause it's a black culture thing. But other ethnic groups can rap? Other ethnic groups can wear "for us by us" clothing? Other ethnic groups can use the hundreds of slang terms invented by blacks in black communities? What is it MC Whiteboy?

"Yo man its a hiphop thing" you prolly been all over the Siccness defending Mighty Whiteys right to rap but you out here tellin me how to act.

saladbowlking · Dec 13, 2005

ITS AMERICA GOTDAMMIT!!!!!

Fucky McFuckerson · Dec 13, 2005

WHITE DEVIL said:

You have no clue...i feel sorry for you...its whatever buddy-boy...you do you...ill do me...i could honestly give to flyin fucks what you do...but im still gonna voice my opinion....

And if you cant figure out the difference between usin the word "nigga" and usin plain old slang....then you need to check yourself...

And where did the MC shit come from??I dont rap...cut the crap...

WHITE DEVIL · Dec 13, 2005

blood you a buster
lmao...

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