Enjoy him now, because this is Locker's last year at UW
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They have his rights for 6 years. I think he will be fine.
So what your saying is that Locker is greedy, and would rather go the NFL, fail, and get paid for a few years. Yes? Because that is exactly what will happen. Jamarcus Russel anyone? They did the SAME thing to him his last year in college and look what has happened to him. I see the same thing happening to Jake if he goes out for the draft next year.
See above. This is where Jake's character really comes into play. Come back for his senior year, improve on the things that will make a QB in the league for a VERY long time, make a little less as a rookie than rookie's are getting paid now; or, go out this year, get the 20-30 mil, "play" for 5 years, and be forgotten. Just so you know, #1 QB's dont ride the pine, they PLAY. Jake will get eaten alive if he were to go out. His long ball is mediocre on his best day. And his accuracy is IMPROVING, but he also throws of his backfoot WAAAAAY too much. Do that in the NFL, and you dont stand a chance.
Im really pissed that the scouting folks are pumping him up like they are. He is ranked 64th in passer rating, 81st in CPT% and 22nd in YDS. Yes, his team is not very good and the defense as a whole stinks. However, those are NOT #1 QB in the 2010 draft numbers. Remember, this is his 1st year of being an actual QB, rather than an athlete who can throw.
If Jake is SMART, and wants a prolonged career in the NFL, he will comeback and refine some skills.
So what your saying is that Locker is greedy, and would rather go the NFL, fail, and get paid for a few years. Yes? Because that is exactly what will happen. Jamarcus Russel anyone? They did the SAME thing to him his last year in college and look what has happened to him. I see the same thing happening to Jake if he goes out for the draft next year.
See above. This is where Jake's character really comes into play. Come back for his senior year, improve on the things that will make a QB in the league for a VERY long time, make a little less as a rookie than rookie's are getting paid now; or, go out this year, get the 20-30 mil, "play" for 5 years, and be forgotten. Just so you know, #1 QB's dont ride the pine, they PLAY. Jake will get eaten alive if he were to go out. His long ball is mediocre on his best day. And his accuracy is IMPROVING, but he also throws of his backfoot WAAAAAY too much. Do that in the NFL, and you dont stand a chance.
Im really pissed that the scouting folks are pumping him up like they are. He is ranked 64th in passer rating, 81st in CPT% and 22nd in YDS. Yes, his team is not very good and the defense as a whole stinks. However, those are NOT #1 QB in the 2010 draft numbers. Remember, this is his 1st year of being an actual QB, rather than an athlete who can throw.
If Jake is SMART, and wants a prolonged career in the NFL, he will comeback and refine some skills.
It is ludicrous to judge anybody who has the opportunity to make their dream come true and takes it. The man has already turned down 3 million bucks to play for UW, he'll have his degree after this year. His dream is to be an NFL Quarterback and I'm sure being financially secure in his family for the next 5 generations wouldn't be such a bad perk.
And all the evaluations of his skills as NFL ready or not, that's your opinion and that's fine, but it's irrelevent to this discussion.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the Huskies, more than anybody on this message board, but if the guy's got to go the guy's got to go.
Very few people in life get to realize their dreams, don't hate on that...
And all the evaluations of his skills as NFL ready or not, that's your opinion and that's fine, but it's irrelevent to this discussion.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the Huskies, more than anybody on this message board, but if the guy's got to go the guy's got to go.
Very few people in life get to realize their dreams, don't hate on that...
And for the record the Angels do have his rights for 6 years but outside of his signing bonus ($200,000) he won't see a penny UNTIL he reports to play minor league ball (if he ever does), and even then it will only be $1200-$1400 a month, I'm willing to bet that's less than both you and I make by quite a margin. The Angels don't represent anything close to long term financial security, they represent definite good money now and the opportunity to pursue professional baseball (w/ no guarantee of financial success) should football not work out.
He has every right to have money on his mind come April.
He has every right to have money on his mind come April.
fuck, if he is that good at baseball and he has to choose a career, he should go for baseball. less wear and tear on the body, longer career life span, the longer his career the more money he makes. but thats if he is that good.
otherwise, he should declare this year, b4 they set the rookie cap in 2011. his signing bonus might be at least 20 million. but who knows if he gets instantly injured.
otherwise, he should declare this year, b4 they set the rookie cap in 2011. his signing bonus might be at least 20 million. but who knows if he gets instantly injured.
LOL...you act as if something like $300,000 aint "financially secure". For one, we don't know for SURE if they are going to put a rookie salary cap on, that is just a DISCUSSION. Even if they do, making a rookie salary, like in the NBA, is VERY good relatively speaking. They still make more than DOCTORS per year by ALOT.
Uhhhh...they are FACT, not OPINION. Homie, have you even WATCHED him play at all this year? I know you're not in the state of WA, so you may not even be getting good looks at him. SO until YOU have, don't come at me like that. Again, these exact same experts DROOLED over ONE good year by Jamarcus Russel, and look how that turned out. Sure, he got his contract but guess what? He is NOT going to be in the league very long. He STINKS in the NFL. I would like to think Jake is SMARTER than him, that is my POINT.
LOL...that could be disputed, bud.
The fuck are you talking about? Hating? Im stating FACTS, guy. If he goes out this year, there is a HIGH percentage chance that he will FAIL. He is NOT ready for the NFL. And they way he is projected, they are saying he will go in the first 10 picks and that means he will START for someone. This is his FIRST year of being an ACTUAL QB, as opposed to an athlete that happes to have a monster arm. There is a difference.
Uhhhh...they are FACT, not OPINION. Homie, have you even WATCHED him play at all this year? I know you're not in the state of WA, so you may not even be getting good looks at him. SO until YOU have, don't come at me like that. Again, these exact same experts DROOLED over ONE good year by Jamarcus Russel, and look how that turned out. Sure, he got his contract but guess what? He is NOT going to be in the league very long. He STINKS in the NFL. I would like to think Jake is SMARTER than him, that is my POINT.
LOL...that could be disputed, bud.
The fuck are you talking about? Hating? Im stating FACTS, guy. If he goes out this year, there is a HIGH percentage chance that he will FAIL. He is NOT ready for the NFL. And they way he is projected, they are saying he will go in the first 10 picks and that means he will START for someone. This is his FIRST year of being an ACTUAL QB, as opposed to an athlete that happes to have a monster arm. There is a difference.
You're completely missing the point when you bring in how you expect him to perform in the NFL. Whether it is correct or incorrect, it's irrelevent to this conversation. I have said nothing about how good he will be in the NFL, you might be right you might be wrong, it is a debate and a darn good one.
What absolutely cannot be debated are these two things. If he is a sure upper 1st round pick then:
1) his lifelong dream will come true.
2) he will be EXPONENTIALLY more financially secure than he is from the $200K he got from the Angels, the money he'd get would be ridiculous and secure his family for multiple generations.
We all should ask ourselves these two questions before we start judging the "character" of people who are lucky enough to answer YES to both of the following:
1) Have I fulfilled my #1 childhood dream?
2) Have I secured the financial futures of my children, grandchildren, great grandchildren & greatgrandchildren?
I'll go first:
1) No
2) No
Final disclaimer: Do not misinterpret, I love the purple & gold more than anybody here, went to every home game from 93-2001 and am currently a season ticket holder despite living out of state.
I HOPE HE STAYS but will support him in whatever he chooses, as any Husky fan should.
What absolutely cannot be debated are these two things. If he is a sure upper 1st round pick then:
1) his lifelong dream will come true.
2) he will be EXPONENTIALLY more financially secure than he is from the $200K he got from the Angels, the money he'd get would be ridiculous and secure his family for multiple generations.
We all should ask ourselves these two questions before we start judging the "character" of people who are lucky enough to answer YES to both of the following:
1) Have I fulfilled my #1 childhood dream?
2) Have I secured the financial futures of my children, grandchildren, great grandchildren & greatgrandchildren?
I'll go first:
1) No
2) No
Final disclaimer: Do not misinterpret, I love the purple & gold more than anybody here, went to every home game from 93-2001 and am currently a season ticket holder despite living out of state.
I HOPE HE STAYS but will support him in whatever he chooses, as any Husky fan should.
No, im bringing a VALID point into the conversation. If Jake doesn't think he is ready, which he is NOT, then he would be SMART to stay another year to refine his skills and have a LONG career, as opposed to a short one. And I will touch on WHY in a second.
LOL...homie, do you know HOW many ex-sports players FILE for bankruptcy? Do you know how many file WHILE they still play? If you think getting 30 million dollars is "set for multiple generations", than maybe you better stick to college sports. It is a near EPIDEMIC how many "flash in the pans" use up ALL their money on stupid shit.
See above.
Ryan Leaf was a GREAT prospect, failed MISERABLY in the NFL, and is now NO WHERE to be found and probably BROKE. Jamarcus Russel, as of now, still has ONE foot in the door as a starting QB in the NFL, but his leash is EXTREMELY short. My point is, getting a big contract, playing terrible, and FAILING in your dream would be devastating and if Locker is SMART, he will REALIZE this and STAY to fix his problems. What kind of insult would it be to himself and his family, if he went into the NFL prematurely, and stunk it up? I would HATE to see that. Steve Entmen ring a bell?
One of his main problems is the deep ball, which is mediocre and INACCURATE. How many passes has he completed over 35 yards this year? I can tell you right now, VERY few. And if they are, its because his WR got YAC.
He also is still having check off issues. This may be attributed to his OL, but GOOD QB's go through their progressions VERY quickly.
He throws of his back foot WAY too much. Again, this may be because of the OL not protecting him enough, but if he gets USED to it, it will haunt him in the NFL. You cant do that against the BEST DB's and LB's in the entire WORLD.
He is also not a WINNER. This team has been horrible for 5 years now, before he even got here. He won 4 games his frosh year, was hurt most of last year, and has only won 3 this year. He will have a chance to actually have a winning RECORD next year if he stays.
I dont give a fuck HOW many "physical tools" a player has, without proper direction, those tools are USELESS. This is the first year Jake is an actual QUARTERBACK, and not an athlete that has canon arm. He needs COACHING. Why? Because, as I already stated, he is projected as a possible top 5 prospect and the #1 QB as of right now. #1 QB's, do NOT ride the pine...they START.
Don't care.
Because i DO like Jake, that is WHY I want him to stay so he can have the CHANCE to have a longer career in the NFL, becuase all the TOOLS are not in place yet for that to happen. HE NEEDS MORE HELP TO PROLONG HIS DREAM.
LOL...homie, do you know HOW many ex-sports players FILE for bankruptcy? Do you know how many file WHILE they still play? If you think getting 30 million dollars is "set for multiple generations", than maybe you better stick to college sports. It is a near EPIDEMIC how many "flash in the pans" use up ALL their money on stupid shit.
See above.
Ryan Leaf was a GREAT prospect, failed MISERABLY in the NFL, and is now NO WHERE to be found and probably BROKE. Jamarcus Russel, as of now, still has ONE foot in the door as a starting QB in the NFL, but his leash is EXTREMELY short. My point is, getting a big contract, playing terrible, and FAILING in your dream would be devastating and if Locker is SMART, he will REALIZE this and STAY to fix his problems. What kind of insult would it be to himself and his family, if he went into the NFL prematurely, and stunk it up? I would HATE to see that. Steve Entmen ring a bell?
One of his main problems is the deep ball, which is mediocre and INACCURATE. How many passes has he completed over 35 yards this year? I can tell you right now, VERY few. And if they are, its because his WR got YAC.
He also is still having check off issues. This may be attributed to his OL, but GOOD QB's go through their progressions VERY quickly.
He throws of his back foot WAY too much. Again, this may be because of the OL not protecting him enough, but if he gets USED to it, it will haunt him in the NFL. You cant do that against the BEST DB's and LB's in the entire WORLD.
He is also not a WINNER. This team has been horrible for 5 years now, before he even got here. He won 4 games his frosh year, was hurt most of last year, and has only won 3 this year. He will have a chance to actually have a winning RECORD next year if he stays.
I dont give a fuck HOW many "physical tools" a player has, without proper direction, those tools are USELESS. This is the first year Jake is an actual QUARTERBACK, and not an athlete that has canon arm. He needs COACHING. Why? Because, as I already stated, he is projected as a possible top 5 prospect and the #1 QB as of right now. #1 QB's, do NOT ride the pine...they START.
Don't care.
Because i DO like Jake, that is WHY I want him to stay so he can have the CHANCE to have a longer career in the NFL, becuase all the TOOLS are not in place yet for that to happen. HE NEEDS MORE HELP TO PROLONG HIS DREAM.
No we're just having two different conversations. Obviously I can respect the argument that it'd be best for his development long-term (thus best financially long-term) for him to go in the NFL more prepared, of course that's your opinion and I can respect it.
But what I can't respect is the use of the word "character" when the guy owes us absolutely nothing. He's passed up a lot of great opportunities (3 million signing bonus in MLB out of high school, playing at a better program) in order to play close to his family and make our fall Saturday's a hell of a lot more interesting. To bring his "character" into it is just way inappropriate. You can call him "stupid" but don't say that somebody who has a chance to make his dream come true and takes it has bad "character," it just comes off as extremely haterish and it's fans with those kinds of sentiments that make athletes so guarded & distrustful of the regular Joe's like you and me.
But what I can't respect is the use of the word "character" when the guy owes us absolutely nothing. He's passed up a lot of great opportunities (3 million signing bonus in MLB out of high school, playing at a better program) in order to play close to his family and make our fall Saturday's a hell of a lot more interesting. To bring his "character" into it is just way inappropriate. You can call him "stupid" but don't say that somebody who has a chance to make his dream come true and takes it has bad "character," it just comes off as extremely haterish and it's fans with those kinds of sentiments that make athletes so guarded & distrustful of the regular Joe's like you and me.
NO, because throughout the entire course of this conversation I haven't said one thing regarding anything between the lines.
Reading comprehension man.
http://rhlschool.com/reading.htm
Reading comprehension man.
http://rhlschool.com/reading.htm
Then this conversation is over.
It has nothing to do with "owing" anyone but HIMSELF. That is what you fail to see.
No, its not because that is something Locker has been first class all they way his entire career. Talking to media, joking with them, taking blame even when it was NOT his fault...he has SHOWN he HAS character.
First of all you dumb son of a bitch, I never said it would be BAD character...i said it would show his TRUE character to stay and refine his SKILLS that HE lacks. He has shown to be intelligent and have a high level of character.
Personally, i dont give a flying fuck what you think on the subject, period. If you really are all about Jake like you say you are, you would clearly see that he isn't NFL ready. I wanna see him succeed in the NFL but in order for that to happen, he NEEDS to come back next year. Husky fans have attached themselves to Jake like BC fans attached themselves to Matt Ryan and they knew what he had to do to succeed in the NFL and look at him now.
It has nothing to do with "owing" anyone but HIMSELF. That is what you fail to see.
No, its not because that is something Locker has been first class all they way his entire career. Talking to media, joking with them, taking blame even when it was NOT his fault...he has SHOWN he HAS character.
First of all you dumb son of a bitch, I never said it would be BAD character...i said it would show his TRUE character to stay and refine his SKILLS that HE lacks. He has shown to be intelligent and have a high level of character.
Personally, i dont give a flying fuck what you think on the subject, period. If you really are all about Jake like you say you are, you would clearly see that he isn't NFL ready. I wanna see him succeed in the NFL but in order for that to happen, he NEEDS to come back next year. Husky fans have attached themselves to Jake like BC fans attached themselves to Matt Ryan and they knew what he had to do to succeed in the NFL and look at him now.
It is very important that you guys do not make a Rose Bowl this year, that will be very rough on us Husky fans b/c right now all we got on you guys is the fact that you guys are very good at finishing 2nd or 3rd in the conference but very bad at actually winning conference titles & big bowl games.
I want to be able to keep harassing you guys about that, I want to be able to say that in your program's best decade in history you guys made 1 BCS Bowl game and won 1 BCS Bowl game, while in UW's worst decade in history they made 1 BCS Bowl game and won 1 BCS Bowl game.
I like the sound of that an awful lot, but shit you guys could win the conference this year and that scares me.
I want to be able to keep harassing you guys about that, I want to be able to say that in your program's best decade in history you guys made 1 BCS Bowl game and won 1 BCS Bowl game, while in UW's worst decade in history they made 1 BCS Bowl game and won 1 BCS Bowl game.
I like the sound of that an awful lot, but shit you guys could win the conference this year and that scares me.