Elton John Speaks Against Religion

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HERESY

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The only thing you've reduced to nothing is yourself. Devoid of logic or rational thought, your argument holds no water.
Sure.

I made many valid points that you completely ignored, and I wasted my time responding to yours where you nitpick without disproving the meaning of my arguments.
Right.

I said genetic, it is believed to have a partially genetic component.
No, what you said was, "All the evidence in the world suggests that being gay is not a choice" and "there are numerous studies that have noticed chemical and neurological differences among straight and gay men." Only after I demolished your positions did you go back and change it up a bit.

You said it was a choice and that you have evidence but you refuse to provide it.
NO! That is NOT what I said. What I said was:

All the evidence in the world suggests that being gay is not a choice? So, if I cite five credible sources stating it IS a choice, what will you do?
and

The good news is many scientist still feel homosexuality is a choice
You are a liar, and I asked you OVER five times to tell me what you are going to do after I post the evidence.

You never cited your sources.
Not true.

I say it's "practically human nature to hate" and you say, "it's not human nature to hate" when I said "practically" for a reason.
I already addressed your inconsistant behavior.

You continue to nitpick with your backwards logic and the only time you say you actually understand when I'm not being literal you assume I'm implying things that I'm not, like drug "addiction," and "suicide attempts."
I am using backwards logic, but the general consensus so far has been you don't know what you're talking about and you're being shitted on. In addition, you don't have to be literal for me to form the assessment that you are a crazed suicidal junkie...who just happens to be gay...

"The researchers found that homosexual males and females both tended to score higher on scales of psychological distress than did their heterosexual counterparts. Further, they were found to be more likely to have used recreational drugs and to have inflicted deliberate harm upon themselves. Gays of both genders were also found to have consulted mental health professionals more frequently than the straight participants.

(EMPHASIS MINE)

Gay men were almost ten percentage points more apt to suffer mental disorder (44% to 35%) than heterosexuals, with almost the same relative rate for lesbians compared to straight women (44% to 34%).
Concerning drug use, 52% of homosexual men and 44% of lesbian women reported such activity within a 30-day period preceding their interview, as contrasted with 45% and 33% of the straight men and women, respectively.
54% of the homosexuals and 56% of lesbians had inflicted harm upon themselves, as opposed to 41% of straight men and 50% of straight women.
http://www.narth.com/docs/symptoms.html

You already confessed to being an addict, and you already said you had mental disorders. With that being said, why WOULDN'T I come to the conclusion that you did NOT attempt to slice your throat when drugs and disorders sometimes lead to suicide and when studies show you're more likely to do it? :dead:

Honestly, you are incapable of rational thought, and if you weren't you'd have said something of substance contrary to the widely accepted truth besides spewing American Family Association propaganda that you ate up when you were even dumber than you are now and must now defend to the brain degree you do.
I haven't said anything from the American Family Association, and I love the fact that you continue to insult me! LMAO!

Yeah, the study you quoted "only" left out the fact that homophobic men showed a large increase in SIGNIFICANT tumescence, which doesn't mean a tiny increase in bloodflow due to autonomic nervous system arousal like through the entire body, it means they're starting to get hard-ons and they can't even fight it. You get hard-ons looking at offensive pictures/disgusting erotic pictures? You get a hard-on when you fight somebody? Well, maybe you do, because your concept of reality is completely backwards.
YOU would know more about male hard-ons because of your experience (I can only speak for MYSELF because my dick is the only one I've been in contact with), but the evidence did NOT leave out the fact that there was a significant increase in tumescence. Because there was a significant increase they had to find out why and they came to the conclusion that these men were most likely latent homosexuals (which I previously stated two or three times now) OR it was caused by anxiety (which I previously stated two or three times now).

C'mon brain, surely you can do better than nothing. You said that it didn't provide evidence it's not a choice, when it evidences a biological connection, even if there is a "competing theory" lobbied for by the AFA.
I don't know why you keep mentioning the AFA. The bottom line is YOU have the burden of proof, and you said all the evidence in the world suggests being gay is not a choice. PROVE IT.

I really doubt you "LMAO"ed with the enthusiasm the number of your delusional exclamation marks would suggest.
No, I am really laughing AT you, and so are others! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thus, not that it wasn't evident before, you are a fraud. But we already knew that, and we already knew you are delusional, you should really take your "opinions" to a psychiatrist and they can tell help you see the world sane people see it.
I am a fraud yet you were a homosexual involved in a heterosexual relationship...:dead:

I am delusional but by your own admission you have mental issues and abuse drugs. :dead:

Why would I need to see a shrink? CTFU!
 

Hemp

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HERESY said:
He and Hemp are friends, yet Hemp denies ever knowing the guy....:paranoid:

uh oh, you found out my secret!!!!!
the one i shared with the group in a reply to YOU stating that he is my friend.
not only that but you replied "what a good friend you are , forgetting who he is "

i think you have stooped to stocktons level to the point where i dont feel like bothering to reply to your useless false assumptions

get a life
 

HERESY

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Hemp read this

uh oh, you found out my secret!!!!!
the one i shared with the group in a reply to YOU stating that he is my friend.
Hemp your initial reply was one of denial, and let me tell you something, people don't magically forget friends--it just doesn't work that way.

not only that but you replied "what a good friend you are , forgetting who he is "
Next time quote me correctly. THIS is what I said:

You barely remember the guy and DENIED knowing him...some friend you are
You proceeded to say:

thats not the guy im talking about.
this man on this site i didnt know his nick, and only known him for a few months before we quit talking over 4 months ago.
notice how he just recently posted with the name i dont know about .
So, which friend ARE you talking about Hemp? In a previous thread you mentioned a friend in california. Insolent posted in that thread and he claimed to be YOUR friend from cali.
 

Hemp

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HERESY said:
Hemp your initial reply was one of denial, and let me tell you something, people don't magically forget friends--it just doesn't work that way.
tell me something, do you know the relationship between isolent and I?
NOPE. you dont know if hes a real friend like the ones that dont get forgotten, and you dont even know WHY i denied, which is because i didnt know anybody with the name "Isolent1", remember he only had one post???



HERESY said:
So, which friend ARE you talking about Hemp? In a previous thread you mentioned a friend in california. Insolent posted in that thread and he claimed to be YOUR friend from cali.

why dont you look at the COMPLETE thread and find out which friend im talking about??
OBVIOUSLY not this guy since i mentioned that i didnt know about this guys nickname.
Its true that i known him for a few months but we havent talked in over 5 months and i have completely forgot about him.

tell me why do you care so much about this issue?

you want me to introduce you to all my friends n family or somethin? want me to tell you all about my lifestyle too including favorite foods?

i never knew youd actually waste this much time on a thread just to discuss if dudes my friend or not.

really, get a life.
 

HERESY

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tell me something, do you know the relationship between isolent and I?
Acoording to him you two are friends. Thats all I know.

you dont know if hes a real friend like the ones that dont get forgotten, and you dont even know WHY i denied, which is because i didnt know anybody with the name "Isolent1", remember he only had one post???
Hemp when I first mentioned your friend from cali you said:

i dont know the guy and never heard of him.
Now, how did you know who I was talking about when I NEVER said a name?

why dont you look at the COMPLETE thread and find out which friend im talking about??OBVIOUSLY not this guy since i mentioned that i didnt know about this guys nickname.Its true that i known him for a few months but we havent talked in over 5 months and i have completely forgot about him.
Hemp you said:

notice the unhappy gay male that said he has a female brain = the same exact thing my friend said.
Again, which friend is this?

tell me why do you care so much about this issue?
About your friendship with this guy? I don't. But if I wanted to spin this to something I could, but as I said before, I still have respect for you hemp.

you want me to introduce you to all my friends n family or somethin? want me to tell you all about my lifestyle too including favorite foods?
lol!

i never knew youd actually waste this much time on a thread just to discuss if dudes my friend or not.
Hemp I devoted PAGES to your friend...not you.


really, get a life.
Thats cold hemp....:(
 

Hemp

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HERESY said:
Acoording to him you two are friends. Thats all I know.
ok


HERESY said:
Now, how did you know who I was talking about when I NEVER said a name?
i knew who because you referred me to the ThizzSavers thread which reminded me of the guy i had known from cali that i told to try that out.






HERESY said:
Again, which friend is this?
The male with the unhappy female brain is a friend i had known from middle school and all through out highschool.
he just came out of the closet to me a year ago and i havent spoken with him in a long long time.



HERESY said:
About your friendship with this guy? I don't. But if I wanted to spin this to something I could, but as I said before, I still have respect for you hemp.
Oh Really?






HERESY said:
Thats cold hemp....:(
poor baby
 

Hemp

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^DAMN, YOU FRIENDS WITH A FAg?

SO HEMP,
ARE YOU gAY?

OH No! I KNOWN A GUY WHO TURNED OUT TO BE GAY!!!! CALL THE AMBULANCE!!!!


can you guess how many mother fuckers you have known and touched that have done shit much much worse than being queer?

now i have a question for you.
whats worse, knowing a gay man, or talking big but yet avoiding a debate with heresy?
 

EDJ

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^WHY ALL OFFENSIVE? ONLY PROBLEM I gOT WITH IT IS THAT YOU REFFEREED THAT FAg TO OUR HAVEN. I gIVES A FUK HOW MANY FRIENDS YOU gOT, OR IF THEY ALL FAgS. THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS.

AND WHAT YOU MEAN TALKIN' BIg? AND WHAT YOU MEAN AVOIDIN' A DEBATE WITH HERESY?

HERESY IS MY HOMIE IN REAL LIFE. I DON'T WANNA gO BAK AND FORTH OVER WORTHLESS CHIT-CHATTER WE'VE BEEN OVER, WHEN ME AND HIM NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON WAY BIgKER THANgS. IT'S EASY TO LET THIS INTERNET SHIT gET YOU SPUNNED IN.
 

Hemp

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EDJ said:
^WHY ALL OFFENSIVE? ONLY PROBLEM I gOT WITH IT IS THAT YOU REFFEREED THAT FAg TO OUR HAVEN. I gIVES A FUK HOW MANY FRIENDS YOU gOT, OR IF THEY ALL FAgS. THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS.
I referred the guy to the detox a year ago, and if you got a problem with gays joining the site then we might as well hate on whatever else is isnt accepted by the majority.


EDJ said:
AND WHAT YOU MEAN TALKIN' BIg? AND WHAT YOU MEAN AVOIDIN' A DEBATE WITH HERESY?

HERESY IS MY HOMIE IN REAL LIFE. I DON'T WANNA gO BAK AND FORTH OVER WORTHLESS CHIT-CHATTER WE'VE BEEN OVER, WHEN ME AND HIM NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON WAY BIgKER THANgS. IT'S EASY TO LET THIS INTERNET SHIT gET YOU SPUNNED IN.
nahh i know you guys are friends offline but its only been since i joined that you have either ignored heresys reply to you or avoided it or ended it by stating something such as "why we discussin this playa"

this is just somethin i picked up
 

EDJ

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^NAW, THE ONLY THANg I AVOID WITH HERESY IS TALKIN' RELIgION CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT, AND AIN'T NO POINT IN gOIN' BAK AND FORTH TO SOMETHIN' WE ALREADY BEEN TO.

AND WHY WOULD YOU REFER A SOMEBODY THAT AIN'T WELCOMED HERE? COPY AND PASTE THE INFO ON AN E-MAIL. YOU SEE HOW HIS PUNK ASS IS AVOIDIN' ME AND ACTIN' ALL DELUSIONAL WITH THE HOMIE. IT'S THE PRINCIPLE THAT YOU VIOLATED, CAUSE I AIN'T SCARED OF NO FAgS AND IT'S NOT HARD TO SMASH ON THEM(CAUSE THEY VIEWS HAVE FLAWS). I JUST DON'T FEEL RIgHT IF ONE DAY THE gENERAL CONCENSUS REFLECTED THE PREDOMINANT OPINION OF YOUR FAg BUDDY, AND THAT IS WHAT THIS SITE IS NOT ABOUT. IT'S ALREADY HARD FOR ME TO ACCEPT THAT 80% RAP CONSUMERS ARE NOT MINORITIES OR WHAT THE MUSIC INDICATES, AND THAT THIS SITE ATTEMPTS TO CATER TO THEY VIEWS(EVEN IF IT gOES AgAINST WHAT THE CULTURE IS ABOUT). NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU INVITIN' FOO'S WHO I THOUgHT THE SICCNESS WOULD NEVA CATER TO.
 

Hemp

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EDJ said:
^NAW, THE ONLY THANg I AVOID WITH HERESY IS TALKIN' RELIgION CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT, AND AIN'T NO POINT IN gOIN' BAK AND FORTH TO SOMETHIN' WE ALREADY BEEN TO.
oh ok i understand.

EDJ said:
AND WHY WOULD YOU REFER A SOMEBODY THAT AIN'T WELCOMED HERE? COPY AND PASTE THE INFO ON AN E-MAIL. YOU SEE HOW HIS PUNK ASS IS AVOIDIN' ME AND ACTIN' ALL DELUSIONAL WITH THE HOMIE. IT'S THE PRINCIPLE THAT YOU VIOLATED, CAUSE I AIN'T SCARED OF NO FAgS AND IT'S NOT HARD TO SMASH ON THEM(CAUSE THEY VIEWS HAVE FLAWS). I JUST DON'T FEEL RIgHT IF ONE DAY THE gENERAL CONCENSUS REFLECTED THE PREDOMINANT OPINION OF YOUR FAg BUDDY, AND THAT IS WHAT THIS SITE IS NOT ABOUT. IT'S ALREADY HARD FOR ME TO ACCEPT THAT 80% RAP CONSUMERS ARE NOT MINORITIES OR WHAT THE MUSIC INDICATES, AND THAT THIS SITE ATTEMPTS TO CATER TO THEY VIEWS(EVEN IF IT gOES AgAINST WHAT THE CULTURE IS ABOUT). NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU INVITIN' FOO'S WHO I THOUgHT THE SICCNESS WOULD NEVA CATER TO.
listen man, nobody can ever know how another man will act with something like this, Especially since he isnt used to heresy and probably took offense to the way heresy debates.
second of all, you cant have everything your way in the world, its best to change the way you see things than to change the billions and billions of things that you dont like.

and third, i sent him the link to the post in the detox to read the thread, and he only replied once there and never again until recently in the GOM.
i have no control over what he does, or what he will do, just like i never had.

and last, if you dont want him here because hes gay, why dont you ask 206 to ban him then? Even once he returned here i still havent talked or had a convo with him therefor i still "am not" his friend and i dont care what happens to him.

i see where your comming from tho, its just not as bad as you see it.