Dr Dre...SMH....

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BIGCHILL

BIGCHILL

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Gas One said:
tripped out shit is, interscope records (father of aftermath?) requested me on twitter...i be talkin hella shit too...

dres strong point is his mixing/engineering. outside of that, hes using ghostriders, ghost beat makers, and everything.

but with that said, does that count as 'putting people on' ?

i agree with him. his shit all do sound the same now. and he knows it. the truth is dre is damn near afraid to drop his shit right now and ruin is track record. cuz if his new shit dont pop his music career is technically a wrap.

its like george foreman getting back in the ring at 50. this is your last shot....if it dont work, back to george foreman grills (beats by dr dre)

what dre should do imo, is stop using every piece of equipment hes using, and use some new shit. start sampling again for fun or some shit. put yaself in a new surrounding with new interests. fuck around with some live instruments. pick up the turntables again.... listen to some different shit. the problem is hes sittin in his big ass studio doin the same shit, smokin the same weed from the same weed grower he had since the chronic. same yes men coming around, same homies...same people rappin same ppl at the studio workin on it..change that shit the fuck up.

dre is smarter than that. but i think his main problem is, hes pigeonholed himself to do a specific type of thing. and he probably feels as if he dosent have much room to create with all the critics, he literally has to cookie cut...and that could definately get boring.

no one wants to create the same album, over again. and the only thing people want detox for, is 'a recreation of the chronic album'. if its anything less than that, chances are itll get negative feedback.

so, what is he to do?
to me dre cant do shit. because what hes gonna do is try to stick to something authentic. instead of possible suprising us, working with people we never expected him to work with, giving us some suprises and shit. nah he in the studio with that same damn piano shit...man that sounds played the fuck out....he need to step up his swag and recreate his sound..
and scrap that gay ass idea about making an album based on planets/outer space...lets stick to trying to produce shit for earth before you start venturing to saturn and shit.

we wanna hear DRE...not 70 ghostwriters and producers...we all know why its taking so long...he scurred....thats why the nigga still thinkin bout quitting at this point..

like i said he needs to turn it up a notch and get creative..go back to the drawing board...cuz IMO id respect a 'creative fail' from dre more than im gonna respect a "i tried my best to do what i know how to do and yall are bored with that shit" if he had a creative fail moment, i could see that as a do over cuz he was trying something new, but if he tries to recreate that old dre sound and no ones fuckin with it, hes a wrap.

and id personally appreciate no eminem on dres album....i know its not gonna happen....but....for real....no eminem

every tester dre has thrown out was weak....even the songs that got 'leaked' that caused dre to spazz and drop epople from labels...all the people hes signed since, from MOP to Rakim Balance etc etc etc..nothing ever dropped....and you know exactly why....hes in a creative slump...those were moments of dre attempting to try something different and he eventually realized the shit was wack...

financially it seems this is the west coasts 'golden goose egg'...im guessing they wanna pull in as much $$$ as they can from this one as possible....so itll drop....but i bet you it wont drop without a small amount of media drama....somethings gonna get cooked up to make people wanna go buy it..but its ALSO going to be a bootleg nightmare due to dre taking a decade plus...so at this point im sure dre is asking himself 1) is it even worth it? and 2) why?

dres done his thing, he technically may only owe us detox due to all the talking hes done, but im feeling as if this is dres 'contractual agreement' album...like hes only dropping it because were talking so much shit...i dont even feel as if dre cares about his own album.....seems more like he just wants to get it out of the way so he can relax..

and i dunno what 'detox' was supposed to be about but didnt eminem lightweight already do that with his last two albums? from reading eminems interview about the 'recovery' album thats what it was.
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BIGCHILL

BIGCHILL

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Superfly Snuka said:
no u read an article that said "Staying motivated over the years has been a struggle for Dre, who told XXL that there were moments where he almost gave up on Detox. “I’ve been through that thing several times, where I’m like, ‘You know what? I quit. I’m not doing this. Everything is starting to sound the same.’”"
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of course there were moments if detox is comin out.:ermm:

the point is he WAS ready to quit because his music started sounding the same....thats dr dre ,the nigga with the golden ears and millions to spend creating new sounds to invest knowin damn well he going to triple that in return...but hes WAS ready to quit cause his music started sounding the same?
 
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Ya'll gotta remember that Dre has different ears than most producers and the average fan. He hears shit in his head that goes beyond a "hit" or a "hot" song. he wants people to listen 2 it 7 to 10 years from when they1st heard it and be like "Can you belive he made this in 2011? It's 2021 and the shit still feels brand new". But if he's gonna make this his last stand he oughta go back and listen 2 what he did on....

 
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ChopShop

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I don't understand how any man can hate on Dre... You can't judge a man until you've walked in his shoes. The Dude has classicssss... as in plural many times over. People can comment all they want but aside from having Akon on the hook, "Kush" was a great song and killing most songs out now.. and I don't say this as a Dre fan but as a music listener.

Do you know how boring it is to get in the same studio with some gangster ass rappers all day everyday talking the same shit and feeling entitled??... rappers have mad egos and 99% have no universal appeal. Maybe he could make some hot album just for Cali but that's all it would be for.. you think a man in his shoes is trying to do that? That's not what Interscope wants and he could do that in his sleep...
 
Rey Ru

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does he really have to make all the beats for detox? maybe he should team up with battlecat and quik or somethin. dre's album ain't gonna be the same with akon replacin nate dog. we shall see.
 
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ChopShop

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-LICWIT- said:
you don't have to judge the man
judge his actions
and this is the real world
humans judge what they see
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What actions are you referring to? He doesn't put on a lot of west coast talent I agree... but he's been there done that (Game, Snoop... etc). He tried recently with Bishop Lamont but apparently the chemistry wasn't there.. the man has a lot of weight on his shoulders and his son just died. What do people expect from this guy that he hasn't already done? Seems like this guy is in a cacoon when he isn't putting out albums.
 
Sydal

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Cats need to understand that the man is a producer. The game is fucked up right now and everybody making a beat thinks they're fuckin' producers. A producer is the dude behind the board telling the artist how to say certain lines. A producer is the cat that gives an album direction and a certain feel. A producer puts the product together so it can sell. A person who makes beats is just a songwriter.

Steve Jobs tells his creative people what he wants, and they make it...that's just how it works. But do you discredit Steve Jobs'? Probably not.

And quite honestly, in this day and age, there's no money on one coast. Snoop is relevant because he's universal, Dre is relevant because he's universal. Cats who stick to one region limit themselves to that region, and it's because music is more universal these days. If cats want to blow up, they have to learn to cater to everybody...not just the West.

And Dre doesn't fuck with folks because they don't have what he's looking for. Dre has made platinum artists...period. If you're not platinum material or don't have platinum potential, you don't belong in a studio with Dre. If a producer like Quincy Jones says Dr. Dre is one of the BEST producers of ALL TIME (not rap producer, but PRODUCER), then he's doing something right.
 
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