Does The Northwest Ever Feel Disrespected By Cali?
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Ive been livin in Spokane for about two years now, just workn im back in the bay for summer. And its hard workin people out here, but theres no real sense of community whether it be music or a hip hop community or whatever. Ive lived in Frisco all my life, and I aint that ignant to say my city is harder than Richmond, Ca prolly about Half of my city is what it is, the tourist capital of the US, the southern half is another world in itself anybody in the bay kno that. Same with Oakland and vallejo, not on the same level but theres some damm nice places in Oakland up in the hills N the same wit valley jo.
I jus think that the area u are raised in breeds ya a certain way, and Cali is a much bigger melting pot of life than Washington and Oregon which are also both pretty rural.
As far as acting hard, thats just fuckn stupid, if u have to act a certain way outside of reactin to your enivornment n your normal life than ya doin to much
Also a good majority of Cali rap is comin from hungry ass cats in the jects, thats another thing about breedin, aint no projects in the NW, maybe in Seattle I dont want to generalize but its not the same
Also alot of people dont get the chance to get up to the NW
Oregon does the dosia right ill tell ya that much
I jus think that the area u are raised in breeds ya a certain way, and Cali is a much bigger melting pot of life than Washington and Oregon which are also both pretty rural.
As far as acting hard, thats just fuckn stupid, if u have to act a certain way outside of reactin to your enivornment n your normal life than ya doin to much
Also a good majority of Cali rap is comin from hungry ass cats in the jects, thats another thing about breedin, aint no projects in the NW, maybe in Seattle I dont want to generalize but its not the same
Also alot of people dont get the chance to get up to the NW
Oregon does the dosia right ill tell ya that much
Very true.
Somewhat true. WA and Oregon aren't any more rural than CA on a percentage basis, but I can see how you feel that way b/c the vast majority of the land up here is rural. But people wise, no way, if that was true than Washington and Oregon would both be red states, but they're both very blue.
San Francisco has nothing Seattle doesn't have.
Somewhat true. WA and Oregon aren't any more rural than CA on a percentage basis, but I can see how you feel that way b/c the vast majority of the land up here is rural. But people wise, no way, if that was true than Washington and Oregon would both be red states, but they're both very blue.
San Francisco has nothing Seattle doesn't have.
Anybody from Elk Grove trying 2 come gangsta needs 2 be slapped in the mouth with a pipe. I live in Sac & they do got some grimy ass parts but not like a lot of the rappers be hollering. I just moved to North Highlands & this place is far from a ghetto. I also lived in South Sac Valley Hi & people would swear up in down it was gangsta through there but in Stockton Valley Hi would be considered middle class. LOL!
My brother lived in San Jose back in the second half of the 90's & San Jose is soft as cotton. I'm not saying they had no hitters out there but there were only a few.
Orange County is gay, San Mateo is weak. 99% of the hitters in Dago are in South East Dago. That's only a small population of city with a few million people.
Some Cali dudes might try 2 use that California card 2 get over on a out of state cat but as long as someone is up on game like u are then they can't pull that stunt on everyone.
My brother lived in San Jose back in the second half of the 90's & San Jose is soft as cotton. I'm not saying they had no hitters out there but there were only a few.
Orange County is gay, San Mateo is weak. 99% of the hitters in Dago are in South East Dago. That's only a small population of city with a few million people.
Some Cali dudes might try 2 use that California card 2 get over on a out of state cat but as long as someone is up on game like u are then they can't pull that stunt on everyone.
the NW will blow up... look at all of the producers and artists doin their damn thang... you got D-sane.. all over the place with his beats.. same with funk daddy... you got up and coming producers such as Sea-Notes (for y'all that aint heard em... peep em.. they're HEATED).. then you got rappers such as Neema (just got signed to kosch, doin an album with a-wax i believe), Cool Nutz and the Jus Family Squad (done tracks with countless "famous" rappers), Boom Bap Project (not my style, but they tour everywhere), life savas (everyone knows about them), Blue Scholars (really startin to kick it upwith all the shows they're doin). Bean One (countless beats for countless artists) Jake one (same as bean one, reputable tracks with G-Unit) Vitamin D (same as bean one and jake one, reputable tracks with Busta Rhymes) Bosko (everyone knows how bosko is behind the keys)
so people who say seattle aint gonna blow up just dont know the scene as a WHOLE. they may know a ton of one or two parts of it.... but theres cats out here who are doin their thing.. probably some that i forgot to mention... so no one can tell me we arent gonna blow up anytime... we just dont have too many RAPPERS that are going to blow people out of the water... but our production around here is HEATED and recognized... but not enough to get us known to everyone!
the pavement has been laid... by people like those above.. we're a young region when it comes to hip-hop/rap... people in cali have been in it for years with deathrow, aftermath, thizz ent. WCM etc. etc. the only real label that has been around seattle to actually break down some barriers is SLR and thats shutdown for now (or forever.. who knows).. it seems to me that SLR started it all.... we just need to take the base that has been created by people who put in work for years and build on it... charging local cats for verses isnt necassairly a bad thing... but it shows that we aint on the same page.. and given the current status of our region.. too me that is out of the question... i understand cats gotta get their bread... but would you rather get a quick $200? or would you rather build a CAREER... look at rick ross... he gave away mass beats for years for FREE... now look at him... his dumbass can afford a chain of his own god damn head!!! LOL we need to work together and somehow get these asshole radio stations around here on our side...
2 cents fo ya!
pz
so people who say seattle aint gonna blow up just dont know the scene as a WHOLE. they may know a ton of one or two parts of it.... but theres cats out here who are doin their thing.. probably some that i forgot to mention... so no one can tell me we arent gonna blow up anytime... we just dont have too many RAPPERS that are going to blow people out of the water... but our production around here is HEATED and recognized... but not enough to get us known to everyone!
the pavement has been laid... by people like those above.. we're a young region when it comes to hip-hop/rap... people in cali have been in it for years with deathrow, aftermath, thizz ent. WCM etc. etc. the only real label that has been around seattle to actually break down some barriers is SLR and thats shutdown for now (or forever.. who knows).. it seems to me that SLR started it all.... we just need to take the base that has been created by people who put in work for years and build on it... charging local cats for verses isnt necassairly a bad thing... but it shows that we aint on the same page.. and given the current status of our region.. too me that is out of the question... i understand cats gotta get their bread... but would you rather get a quick $200? or would you rather build a CAREER... look at rick ross... he gave away mass beats for years for FREE... now look at him... his dumbass can afford a chain of his own god damn head!!! LOL we need to work together and somehow get these asshole radio stations around here on our side...
2 cents fo ya!
pz
also.. cats around here aint got the bread to actually PUT OUT AN ALBUM... they can pay for studio time, beats, graphics, a few verses... but then they are spent for the most part.... no more money for guerilla marketing... not enough for proffessional videos (ones that can be played on MTV or BET) flyers, concerts with big names, bill boards, shirts... all that comes into play when you want an album to go big! we also dont have the connections to professional managers like others do that actually get paid to do their job... not a free manager who is down with em to help em out.... we need managers that cost money and that is the only thing they focus on cause that is what they do!....
theres A TON of things that come into play when asking "WHY HASNT THE NW BLOWN UP!" i just named a few... the list goes on and on and on...
pz
theres A TON of things that come into play when asking "WHY HASNT THE NW BLOWN UP!" i just named a few... the list goes on and on and on...
pz
I agree with a lot of what's in there. And it's also all dependent on what you define success as. My definition of success is based largely on distribution, so for example when I was in college in St. Paul, MN, the day that I walked into a record store out there and was able to purchase the Boom Bap Project "Reprogram" album, I got pretty excited, I was like "awesome, those guys made it." I saw the fact that I could purchase their CD in a store 2,000 miles away a milestone.
Now I suppose another definition of success is when you can go to any city in America and say where you're from, and hip-hop fans will know who's from your way and representing your area.
I don't expect the Northwest to blow either, but it would just sure be nice if we had some people out there representing our city nationally the same way a relatively small number of people represent cities like St. Louis and Cleveland.
Now I suppose another definition of success is when you can go to any city in America and say where you're from, and hip-hop fans will know who's from your way and representing your area.
I don't expect the Northwest to blow either, but it would just sure be nice if we had some people out there representing our city nationally the same way a relatively small number of people represent cities like St. Louis and Cleveland.
That's an interesting idea that regional rap is dead, I think there could be some truth to that for sure, but I think the Midwest has a chance.
When I think of the US I think of 6 regions (East Coast, South, Midwest, Southwest, West Coast, Northwest). Of that list, the Midwest, Northwest and Southwest haven't blown up yet, the other 3 have. If another one blows up, the Midwest is next because not only is there population much larger as a whole, but they got way more black people there, so therefore more of a "rap eligible" population. If that's offensive, so be it, but last time I checked at the mainstream level, those record labels still seem to prefer African American artists. So I think the Midwest could do it, and the Southwest could also do it by cornering the Latino rap market. For us, it will be tough.
But let's just get a few of our more talented artists representing us first before we worry about setting up a pipeline.
When I think of the US I think of 6 regions (East Coast, South, Midwest, Southwest, West Coast, Northwest). Of that list, the Midwest, Northwest and Southwest haven't blown up yet, the other 3 have. If another one blows up, the Midwest is next because not only is there population much larger as a whole, but they got way more black people there, so therefore more of a "rap eligible" population. If that's offensive, so be it, but last time I checked at the mainstream level, those record labels still seem to prefer African American artists. So I think the Midwest could do it, and the Southwest could also do it by cornering the Latino rap market. For us, it will be tough.
But let's just get a few of our more talented artists representing us first before we worry about setting up a pipeline.
Yeah them cats kill me. They been saying the Bay is gonna blow back up. They spit thaty shit every year but rely on Mob Figz(who can't put an album together cuz they can't seem to stay out of trouble), A-Wax(Mob Figa clone), Messy Marv(average), Turf Talk(terribile lyracist, garbage flow), Thizz Ent.( trash), Federation(had there chance & they suck ass on the mic half the time), Mista FAB(LOL!) & a host of other rappers who who sound so regional its pathetic. Not to mention they still want Hyphy to blow.
San Francisco has nothing Seattle doesn't have.[/QUOTE]
Dont got the history or location, been thru seattle actually reminded me alot of the north side of the city n yall got no latinos up there mane, i see latinos out here in Spokane claimn Sur its fuckn stupid. Been thru Tacoma too, its just rural poor n really small communties, I aint hatin, but the whole westcoast is unique in different ways so cal n nor cal would be the example I would use
but cats from Portland is on they own hype then Seattle niggas so I dont see whats the point of comparrison
The NW is always gonna be that the NW Im tryna put a hear to the music out here the spokane scene is lakin tho bruh
Dont got the history or location, been thru seattle actually reminded me alot of the north side of the city n yall got no latinos up there mane, i see latinos out here in Spokane claimn Sur its fuckn stupid. Been thru Tacoma too, its just rural poor n really small communties, I aint hatin, but the whole westcoast is unique in different ways so cal n nor cal would be the example I would use
but cats from Portland is on they own hype then Seattle niggas so I dont see whats the point of comparrison
The NW is always gonna be that the NW Im tryna put a hear to the music out here the spokane scene is lakin tho bruh
Here's a map of poverty in SF. The red areas are block groups where over 33% of the population is below the poverty line. What it shows is that basically outside of Hunters Point, Fillmore and Chinatown, there is nowhere in town suffering from you might concentrated poverty. And those three areas make up a tiny chunk of the city, very tiny.
Here's the same map of Seattle (zoomed in to the southern part of our city because the shape of Seattle couldn't fit into the mapping frame).
The two cities are the same, crime stuff checks out too, they are very similar. But yes you are right, SF has more Latinos (and also more Asians).
Here's the same map of Seattle (zoomed in to the southern part of our city because the shape of Seattle couldn't fit into the mapping frame).
The two cities are the same, crime stuff checks out too, they are very similar. But yes you are right, SF has more Latinos (and also more Asians).