DO NOT BUY ANY VERSES FROM BULLET
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Man,
Just another example of why cats need to have their business straight...
I had high regards for bullet until i read this.I still personally have nothing against dude, but i definately look at him in a different light It's really really a sad thing to see/hear about something like this.
I guess at the end of the day its like, what do you value more, the quick buck, or your personal relationships in the game?
The only thing i can really say is, if for whatever reason bullet decides to come back, (which damn near every rapper does) hes shot himself in the foot on the business end. Which i think is FAR worse than putting out a wack record. Cuz the way i look at it, its the personal relationships that help you the most when your down and out...
Ja rule is a perfect example, if that guy had fucked off all his personal relationships, i highly doubt he would have been able to put together a record like "new york, new york" with Jadakiss and Fat Joe who right now are two of the hottest cats in the game right now. That record is what some people are calling a comeback, wether it is or not is irelevent.
Point is, if two years from now, Bullet makes some kalls and says he wants back in, i dont think he could pull off a "seattle, seattle" type record with say a Crytical and Red head steve, or whoever is hot at the moment when the time comes, cuz now, odds are those phone calls aint gonna get returned...
shit is sad,
Straight up, thats why I dont got two many business associates in this game, i got people thats my family, then i got friends, and thats it really it.
just my two cents
one love
neema
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Just another example of why cats need to have their business straight...
I had high regards for bullet until i read this.I still personally have nothing against dude, but i definately look at him in a different light It's really really a sad thing to see/hear about something like this.
I guess at the end of the day its like, what do you value more, the quick buck, or your personal relationships in the game?
The only thing i can really say is, if for whatever reason bullet decides to come back, (which damn near every rapper does) hes shot himself in the foot on the business end. Which i think is FAR worse than putting out a wack record. Cuz the way i look at it, its the personal relationships that help you the most when your down and out...
Ja rule is a perfect example, if that guy had fucked off all his personal relationships, i highly doubt he would have been able to put together a record like "new york, new york" with Jadakiss and Fat Joe who right now are two of the hottest cats in the game right now. That record is what some people are calling a comeback, wether it is or not is irelevent.
Point is, if two years from now, Bullet makes some kalls and says he wants back in, i dont think he could pull off a "seattle, seattle" type record with say a Crytical and Red head steve, or whoever is hot at the moment when the time comes, cuz now, odds are those phone calls aint gonna get returned...
shit is sad,
Straight up, thats why I dont got two many business associates in this game, i got people thats my family, then i got friends, and thats it really it.
just my two cents
one love
neema
unexpected arrival
I take it you're still beefing with Bullet... Last I remember you said it was on sight... I'll take your reply as a yes... Man that's a damn shame Bullet has gotten himself into hot water like this with some west coast pioneers, pimps and gangstas. Business should always be conducted in a good manner, otherwise you're not doing business, you're fucking people over. To do business means both parties win... Get it right people...
And that's my $.02 on this whole situation.
And that's my $.02 on this whole situation.
Aight...well I guess I've stayed quiet long enough about this situation. I ain't comin on here to speak for Bullet because he is his own man and if he wanted to he could come on here to speak for himself. I just wanna say a few thangs.
I'd like to start by sayin that there's alwayz 2 sides to every story. And of course before Bullet could come on and defend himself people were already passin judgement...Bullet's bad for business, Bullet eats boogers, Bullet lives in a trailer, Bullet's gonna get his head kicked in, etc...Way to give a man a fair trial. I'm not tryin to say that there isn't any truth to what is being said, but Bullet should've had a chance to defend himself if he chose to do so. Instead everybody jumped on the topic like a pack of wild dogs to a steak. Shit shouldn't work that way. Every man deserves a fair trial.
Some questions I have are, why is this just comin out now? Bullet hasn't even been around for a minute so what caused this? Was it because of the whole Mac Dre (R.I.P.) issue? I don't know if it's true or not that Bullet sold that verse to somebody, but if he did then who did he sell it to? And who said that he did so? That's somethin I would like to know. Cuz even I would have to say that's fucked up if there was some truth behind it.
And it could be that Bullet is guilty of some of the thangs that he's been accused of, but puttin out that a man is doin bad business or whatever is bad enough. Why does it have to go to some other level shit? If y'all wanna do harm to him over some shit like this then it's whatever, but to me it seems like it must go deeper than that. I don't think there's 1 person in this game that hasn't had a bad business experience. I know I have. Was I pissed? Yeah. Did I wanna kill the bitch over it? No. I just never did business with dude again. And that's the choice every one of us has. If we don't like the way somebody is doin business then we can choose not to work with that person. Nothin more nothin less.
So, at the end of the day, Jay Tee, B 12, and to all those who feel that they've been wronged by Bullet, do what you do. But all those who are on the sidelines who have never even heard of Bullet or were never involved with him in any way, I don't think y'all should be talkin all too much.
Well, I won't take too much more of your time. I just thought I should speak my mind. I've learned a lot in this business and have made some good connections and hope to keep them. I've lived and I've learned and I hope to continue to do so. If I've done some shit that has been questionable in some eyes then I have already moved to correct them. My focus is to continue makin muzik until the cows come home. And where I live they ain't ever comin home. So, I guess it will be for a very long time. Peace y'all!!!
I'd like to start by sayin that there's alwayz 2 sides to every story. And of course before Bullet could come on and defend himself people were already passin judgement...Bullet's bad for business, Bullet eats boogers, Bullet lives in a trailer, Bullet's gonna get his head kicked in, etc...Way to give a man a fair trial. I'm not tryin to say that there isn't any truth to what is being said, but Bullet should've had a chance to defend himself if he chose to do so. Instead everybody jumped on the topic like a pack of wild dogs to a steak. Shit shouldn't work that way. Every man deserves a fair trial.
Some questions I have are, why is this just comin out now? Bullet hasn't even been around for a minute so what caused this? Was it because of the whole Mac Dre (R.I.P.) issue? I don't know if it's true or not that Bullet sold that verse to somebody, but if he did then who did he sell it to? And who said that he did so? That's somethin I would like to know. Cuz even I would have to say that's fucked up if there was some truth behind it.
And it could be that Bullet is guilty of some of the thangs that he's been accused of, but puttin out that a man is doin bad business or whatever is bad enough. Why does it have to go to some other level shit? If y'all wanna do harm to him over some shit like this then it's whatever, but to me it seems like it must go deeper than that. I don't think there's 1 person in this game that hasn't had a bad business experience. I know I have. Was I pissed? Yeah. Did I wanna kill the bitch over it? No. I just never did business with dude again. And that's the choice every one of us has. If we don't like the way somebody is doin business then we can choose not to work with that person. Nothin more nothin less.
So, at the end of the day, Jay Tee, B 12, and to all those who feel that they've been wronged by Bullet, do what you do. But all those who are on the sidelines who have never even heard of Bullet or were never involved with him in any way, I don't think y'all should be talkin all too much.
Well, I won't take too much more of your time. I just thought I should speak my mind. I've learned a lot in this business and have made some good connections and hope to keep them. I've lived and I've learned and I hope to continue to do so. If I've done some shit that has been questionable in some eyes then I have already moved to correct them. My focus is to continue makin muzik until the cows come home. And where I live they ain't ever comin home. So, I guess it will be for a very long time. Peace y'all!!!
Juice, your one of the cats that made me first start having problems with Bullet. Why is it that me, Bash, & Frost are one your album? You little banner ad has all of our names in it like we support you or something. None of us have never even met you. Did you pay us for the verses? Fuck no. I know Bullet probaly pumped you up to think that it would be cool to recycle these verses once again so that your album would have features, but didn't you think that you might have problems later on. Don't defend someones shystiness just because your were a part of it. Let me know if you want to get involved in this.
Fuck all the extra talk...Bullet brought this on himself.
Juice it just came up now because nobody can get ahold of dude.
Karlie: I hear what your saying and of course aint nobody gonna do nothin' to this loser but whip his ass at best. If the FEDS want to get me for that it wouldnt be the first time.
As for everything else...who cares.
Juice it just came up now because nobody can get ahold of dude.
Karlie: I hear what your saying and of course aint nobody gonna do nothin' to this loser but whip his ass at best. If the FEDS want to get me for that it wouldnt be the first time.
As for everything else...who cares.
Wow, shit I really did think y'all worked with this kat cuz of the banner. All y'all foos sayin it's nathin wrong with buying a verse and then selling the verse are stupid fucks (In this sitiation). Jay Tee explained himself already, he said he helped this kat bullet make a come up and as one said earlier he bit the hand that fed him by slangin the verse to someone else. You think Jay Tee and them want to be featured on some mafuckas album they never even met????? And not getting paid for it????? If them mafuckas that never met Jay Tee and them bought verses from Jay Tee, you bet Jay Tee gonna make a come up. Instead the scurvy ass mafucka Bullet is makin a come up off someone who is tryna help him out. Look at it this way, Jay Tee helps this kat bullet by giving him verses or selling it to him for playa prices just to help him out. Then he resells it to some lames (no offense no anyone) who don't even have names yet. For example say Bullet sells Jay Tee's verse to Kobe Soz(using him as an example cuz we all know), how the fuck is Jay Tee suppose to feel? FUCK THAT.
So, you're tellin me that you and Bullet didn't have problems before this? I wasn't aware that I was to blame for y'all havin your differences. Why were you, Bash, and Frost on my album? It's like this. When I started workin on my album I left in the hands of the label to get me beats, features, artwork, etc...All I did was come up with the money and write my songs. I wanted to be able to focus on writin songs for my album and that was it. Isn't that what artists do when they're a part of a label? If that wasn't the case I would have done it all myself. I also didn't get myself involved on the business side of thangs cuz I was new to the game. I knew people wouldn't really give me the time of day if they new I was just some Joe Blow with no label under my belt. So, I thought by goin through the label I would get hook-ups on most thangs instead of me comin in as a new artist and gettin charged the hefty price that most artists and services charge newcomers.
I'll tell you like this and this ain't on some diss type shit either. I had never even heard "Last Night" or "On The Road" on anything else before I started writin my verse to them. I honestly thought it was goin to be on my album first. I had already written my part, recorded it, payed for the mixin, and everything else by the time you hit me up about it. Just like you don't wanna lose money neither do I. If you lost money so did I cuz I payed for this shit. Whatever happened after that wasn't in my hands.
If I'm to blame for acceptin these tracks then I will have to deal with the consequences. But like I said...I've lived and I've learned. You won't catch me doin the same shit twice that most will view as wrong. I ain't in this to burn bridges...I'm in this to grow. And trust me I know a lot more than I did a year ago. So, it's not that I'm tryin to be involved, but it's not like I really have a choice. I'm a part of this whether I like it or not.
I can't erase what is already done. And I don't blame you for being upset at the situation, but like I said in my first post. It's already bad enough that Bullet is being put out as a bad business man. Why can't it just be left at that?
I'll tell you like this and this ain't on some diss type shit either. I had never even heard "Last Night" or "On The Road" on anything else before I started writin my verse to them. I honestly thought it was goin to be on my album first. I had already written my part, recorded it, payed for the mixin, and everything else by the time you hit me up about it. Just like you don't wanna lose money neither do I. If you lost money so did I cuz I payed for this shit. Whatever happened after that wasn't in my hands.
If I'm to blame for acceptin these tracks then I will have to deal with the consequences. But like I said...I've lived and I've learned. You won't catch me doin the same shit twice that most will view as wrong. I ain't in this to burn bridges...I'm in this to grow. And trust me I know a lot more than I did a year ago. So, it's not that I'm tryin to be involved, but it's not like I really have a choice. I'm a part of this whether I like it or not.
I can't erase what is already done. And I don't blame you for being upset at the situation, but like I said in my first post. It's already bad enough that Bullet is being put out as a bad business man. Why can't it just be left at that?
I just want everyone to know that Juice shouldn't be held responsible for the actions of someone else. It's common place in this industry to do songs with other people and never meet them... Further more if Bullet is the middle man making it happen, Juice can't be the one to blame for any faulty actions that take place... It sounds like as far as Juice knew, you folks were supporting his project...
I understand where you guys are coming from and appreciate the heads up... We're all in this game together, competing, but in it to win it none-the-less... I know I sure as hell would like to know the past business transactions of anybody I'm fucking with cause there are alot of snakes in this game. My approach to this business is different from everyone elses. I keep my shit internal and do what I do...
I understand where you guys are coming from and appreciate the heads up... We're all in this game together, competing, but in it to win it none-the-less... I know I sure as hell would like to know the past business transactions of anybody I'm fucking with cause there are alot of snakes in this game. My approach to this business is different from everyone elses. I keep my shit internal and do what I do...
Juice, why the fuck would I want to be on an artists album that I don't know shit about unless I'm getting paid. I don't do charity work Homeboy. Step up your game. You act like you were signed to some big label that was handling all of you paperwork. You put out an an album thru Bullet's trunk distribution. If you are that naive, please get out the game immediately. I keep hearing more new stories everyday of how he sold the same verses over and over. He sold a Bash verse that he didn't even own, at least twice. I know for a fact that he owed somebody money and payed him with the Mac Dre verse. This cat is gonna have to pay compensation. Period.
I understand where you're coming from, hell I'm learning new things about the game with each message typed... So you're saying no matter what, the artist is entitled to his money regardless of the actions of the middle man? If that's the case you're seeking compensation from Juice, correct? And if that's the case, Juice should be insanely pissed at Bullet. Wow, this game is not fun when people do each other wrong.
@Juice, Did you ever ask Bullet if all parties involved with your project knew they were being featured on your album? I asked Bash once if he knew he was on your album, and he said he didn't know who the fuck you were. Those were his words exactly. You make it sound like you were just along for the ride regarding your project, but in the end who's project was it? You should be aware of all that's happening when it pretains to your album. Ignorance is not innocence. JayTee is good people and so is B-12, so I know they must have a good reason for coming on the board and letting it be known that bullet is pulling some faulty shit. Especially with the Mac Dre situation, thats as faulty as you can get. So if Bullet get's touched up, he probably deserves it. So you not being aware of whats happening with your album is really your problem, not your label's or anybody else's. Now you know better than to let another man handle your business for you. Hopefully.
@ B-12, how's that left hand slugger? you put hands on anybody else recently?
@ JayTee, I'm gonna holla at you after the holiday's about the song with us. Matt Foley is waiting on it so he can start pushing it on the radio.
@ Everybody else, Please make sure to notify your featured artists and let them know they are on your album, it might just save you an ass kicking. Peace.
@ B-12, how's that left hand slugger? you put hands on anybody else recently?
@ JayTee, I'm gonna holla at you after the holiday's about the song with us. Matt Foley is waiting on it so he can start pushing it on the radio.
@ Everybody else, Please make sure to notify your featured artists and let them know they are on your album, it might just save you an ass kicking. Peace.
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