Definition of "Right" and "Wrong"?
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I would see myself as a conservative Christian..or at least try to be. Not a "hardcore" Christian, obviously(working on it), I'm a frequent visitor to a "Gangsta" rap site...lol. I met my wife in 1999 and she invited me to church...and that's how it started. Previously to that, I did go to Sunday school as a kid in Fort Worth Texas...mainly to go and kick it. The only time I got close to GOD after that was at funerals. I spent 4 years in a maximum security prison on a Felonious Assault...and I went to church one time during that bid and didn't read a bible once. I did however, use it rolling papers for the tabacco they gave us in the hole. I had Rastafarians and Muslims as well as Christians giving me the run down on "what was what"...according to them. So I didn't find GOD there...like most people do. I'm 35 now, and I can honestly say I have experinced things in my life where I know it was Gods doing, as well as feeling Gods love and mercy! I take the bible litterally to a certain extent, and I understand it's metaphors. Have I read the whole bible? No. I'm getting there! and it keeps getting better and better. So I am not the type who has gone out in life seeking GOD. He's shown himself to me in many ways. Only recently in the past year, since I've been married...I have started to pay attention. To me...the fact that I am the person I am today compared to the thug I was before, during , and after prison...speaks of GODs work in itself. Yet, even now, I struggle with keeping my anger, and bad temper under control. I used to smoke weed and get drunk daily. That really didn't work. I broke the door off the hinges at work about a year ago...doctors recommended medication. took it for a while...didn't work. I prayed and gave GOD a chance and my life has been getting better ever since. People who know me...know I am a changed person and support me. I haven't disowned anyone. I had a birthday party in August...and it was full of people who do dirt. Doesn't mean I have to. I plan on inviting those same people to church and maybe change their lives. So to sum it all up..I'm still in the early stages of my faith.
Sorry for the long post...maybe you can find an answer to your question somewhere in there. 1
Sorry for the long post...maybe you can find an answer to your question somewhere in there. 1
great answer.
I guess instead of finding ways to ridicule you...
(what did God look like when he showed himself to you?)
I will just say...congratulations on your walk with your God. Like I said before, I dont neccessarily hate the idea of a GOD. I do think more people should take more credit for themselves in their overcoming struggles and hardships. Do I think your god helped you? I dont know....
What matters most is that you area changed person. And with that you can have a nice abundant relationship with your wife and children (future im assuming). Thats the important part here.
Im glad you feel better as a whole now.
I do not think God is the answer to everything or mostly anything, though. But I do understand that most people want to believe that.
5000
I guess instead of finding ways to ridicule you...
(what did God look like when he showed himself to you?)
I will just say...congratulations on your walk with your God. Like I said before, I dont neccessarily hate the idea of a GOD. I do think more people should take more credit for themselves in their overcoming struggles and hardships. Do I think your god helped you? I dont know....
What matters most is that you area changed person. And with that you can have a nice abundant relationship with your wife and children (future im assuming). Thats the important part here.
Im glad you feel better as a whole now.
I do not think God is the answer to everything or mostly anything, though. But I do understand that most people want to believe that.
5000
^^ Oh i know that...
thats why I didnt ask the question..
its like this:
If I was really broke and couldnt feed my family cuase I was financially bad off. Then for some crazy reason some drops off some food at my door. Well I would think that was god that (not put that there) but had someone put it there...
right?
5000
thats why I didnt ask the question..
its like this:
If I was really broke and couldnt feed my family cuase I was financially bad off. Then for some crazy reason some drops off some food at my door. Well I would think that was god that (not put that there) but had someone put it there...
right?
5000
JLMACN,
DON'T gET MAD AT ME FOR ASKIN' THIS, BUT LET'S SAY YOUR SON DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND DIED AT AN EARLY AgE(LET'S SAY 8, 9 YEARS OLD). HOW WOULD THAT MAKE YOU FEEL AS IN REgARDS TO WHAT HAPPENED? I KNOW YOU'LL gO CRAZY, BUT WOULD YOU THINK THERE WOULD BE HOPE OF EVA SEEIN' YOUR SON AgAIN? IT AIN'T FAIR, SO DO YOU FEEL LIKE LIFE WOULD BE gLOOMY FROM THERE ON OUT, OR LIKE YOUR SON'S MEMORY IS ALL YOU gOT? WOULD YOU EVEN WONDER WHERE HE WENT OR ARE YOU CONTENT WITH JUST NOTHINgNESS?
DON'T gET MAD AT ME FOR ASKIN' THIS, BUT LET'S SAY YOUR SON DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND DIED AT AN EARLY AgE(LET'S SAY 8, 9 YEARS OLD). HOW WOULD THAT MAKE YOU FEEL AS IN REgARDS TO WHAT HAPPENED? I KNOW YOU'LL gO CRAZY, BUT WOULD YOU THINK THERE WOULD BE HOPE OF EVA SEEIN' YOUR SON AgAIN? IT AIN'T FAIR, SO DO YOU FEEL LIKE LIFE WOULD BE gLOOMY FROM THERE ON OUT, OR LIKE YOUR SON'S MEMORY IS ALL YOU gOT? WOULD YOU EVEN WONDER WHERE HE WENT OR ARE YOU CONTENT WITH JUST NOTHINgNESS?
I really couldnt tell you what makes me try to do what is right. Just based on the fact that I think it is right, I guess. I dont think anybody does what they truly feel is the wrong thing to do. Somebody might do the wrong thing, but for the right reasons. For example, somebody might be knockin over liquor stores, but his motivation for doing so would be to feed his kids. Probably not the ideal way to go about it, but his intentions are to do the right thing, which is feeding his family.
Alot of people would find this question hard to answer......
but here I go.
And I appreciate the question...honestly. (i like thinking about things i dont think about much)
In regards to what happened? I dont know. I guess that all depends on how he passed away. If he got Sick and passed away, then theres nothing that I could do but make sure he had the best medical care he could get. If that doesnt work, then I would be content that ....it was his fate to die that way.
And NO I wouldnt go crazy. I would miss the fuck outta him....but thats not a "god believing" feeling, just a natural one.
I Would know that where ever he is, its much better than this place we call earth. He doesnt have to deal with all the bullshit that Life brings you. So, yes I would hope that I could see him again but again I think thats a natural feeling. DO I think I need to pray and ask jesus in my heart for that purpose. No, I think that would be the wrong reason to be a "christian" or serve any god. Thats a hell of a greedy reason to serve a god.
Death isnt fair but Death is as real as it gets. I dont think Life would be gloomy, maybe empty for a little bit but thats because everything I do I for my son. I get up and go to work everyday for him, hustle for him, pay my bills on time for him. Why for him? Cause if that day ever comes where he needs advice or money for college or a co-signer for a vehicle, then I want to make sure that I can be that father to do that for him.
I think no matter what...my son will always be apart of me. SHit man, I was outta control before I had my son. Mind you i was only 17 when he was born...so I was flunking highschool, smoking weed everyday, drinking, fucking, etc etc.....just flat out not giving a fuck. Most people need Jesus, Budda, or whoever the fuck to change their lives. Not me I Have/had my son. I think it would be VAIN of me to act like I dont give a fuck about shit when/if he passed away. So no my sons memories is not all I have. I would still have him everyday of my life from the time he would have died till the time I die.
Ill put it like this.
If he died at 8-9 years old, I would know that he went to Heaven. (if there is one) He actually prays on his own and really believes in Jesus. I let him do that....like I have said previously. but again, no matter where he went after he dies I know its better than this shit hole called earth. And yes Im saying he wouldnt be in HELL. I wouldnt wonder where he went....
I just know its a better place.
5000
but here I go.
And I appreciate the question...honestly. (i like thinking about things i dont think about much)
In regards to what happened? I dont know. I guess that all depends on how he passed away. If he got Sick and passed away, then theres nothing that I could do but make sure he had the best medical care he could get. If that doesnt work, then I would be content that ....it was his fate to die that way.
And NO I wouldnt go crazy. I would miss the fuck outta him....but thats not a "god believing" feeling, just a natural one.
I Would know that where ever he is, its much better than this place we call earth. He doesnt have to deal with all the bullshit that Life brings you. So, yes I would hope that I could see him again but again I think thats a natural feeling. DO I think I need to pray and ask jesus in my heart for that purpose. No, I think that would be the wrong reason to be a "christian" or serve any god. Thats a hell of a greedy reason to serve a god.
Death isnt fair but Death is as real as it gets. I dont think Life would be gloomy, maybe empty for a little bit but thats because everything I do I for my son. I get up and go to work everyday for him, hustle for him, pay my bills on time for him. Why for him? Cause if that day ever comes where he needs advice or money for college or a co-signer for a vehicle, then I want to make sure that I can be that father to do that for him.
I think no matter what...my son will always be apart of me. SHit man, I was outta control before I had my son. Mind you i was only 17 when he was born...so I was flunking highschool, smoking weed everyday, drinking, fucking, etc etc.....just flat out not giving a fuck. Most people need Jesus, Budda, or whoever the fuck to change their lives. Not me I Have/had my son. I think it would be VAIN of me to act like I dont give a fuck about shit when/if he passed away. So no my sons memories is not all I have. I would still have him everyday of my life from the time he would have died till the time I die.
Ill put it like this.
If he died at 8-9 years old, I would know that he went to Heaven. (if there is one) He actually prays on his own and really believes in Jesus. I let him do that....like I have said previously. but again, no matter where he went after he dies I know its better than this shit hole called earth. And yes Im saying he wouldnt be in HELL. I wouldnt wonder where he went....
I just know its a better place.
5000
From what I read it doesn't imply that. He is simply asking those who do not believe in God to state what keeps them from doing right or wrong. Also, I never saw anything about doing right because of a "fear" for God, and truth be told MANY people who believe in God do right because they have a love and respect for God which isn't rooted in your allegation of fear.
Since God is NOT the motivational factor or deterent for those who do not believe, he provided instances/examples of what could be the driving factor. Again, from what I read he is not implying that God (or fear of) is the only factor in doing right or wrong, for if this were true he wouldn't have asked the question in the first place and he would have debated all the non believers who have stated why they have a sense of right and wrong.
Since God is NOT the motivational factor or deterent for those who do not believe, he provided instances/examples of what could be the driving factor. Again, from what I read he is not implying that God (or fear of) is the only factor in doing right or wrong, for if this were true he wouldn't have asked the question in the first place and he would have debated all the non believers who have stated why they have a sense of right and wrong.