David Haye vs Wlad Klitschko (July)

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Haye KO'ing Wlad is what's selling this fight.
Not happening. I don't see it being very competitive.
Wlad should have him out of there somewhere between Rd 6-8.

 

[Stony Gwynn]

I'M FAR FROM ANY KIND OF BOXING HISTORIAN BUT IS THERE REALLY 100 HEAVYWEIGHTS BETTER THAN VLAD??? TYSON GOT BEAT UP BY EVERY FIGHTER THAT WASN'T INTIMIDATED BY HIM... VLADS CHIN IS BEYOND SUSPECT BUT I ALSO THINK THAT IF HE WAS TO FIGHT SOME OF THESE ATG'S THAT HE WOULD MORE THAN HOLD HIS OWN... ANYBODY CAN BE KNOCKED OUT AT ANY TIME BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A CAKE WALK FOR SOMEONE LIKE TYSON TO BEAT HIM...

 

[2-0-Sixx]

I'M FAR FROM ANY KIND OF BOXING HISTORIAN BUT IS THERE REALLY 100 HEAVYWEIGHTS BETTER THAN VLAD??? TYSON GOT BEAT UP BY EVERY FIGHTER THAT WASN'T INTIMIDATED BY HIM... VLADS CHIN IS BEYOND SUSPECT BUT I ALSO THINK THAT IF HE WAS TO FIGHT SOME OF THESE ATG'S THAT HE WOULD MORE THAN HOLD HIS OWN... ANYBODY CAN BE KNOCKED OUT AT ANY TIME BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A CAKE WALK FOR SOMEONE LIKE TYSON TO BEAT HIM...

100 heavyweights? I don't know about that. 100 fighters (all weight classes) without a doubt.

This was The Ring's top 50 All Time Great Heavyweights (this is from 2005):

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Evander Holyfield
4. George Foreman
5. Larry Holmes
6. Rocky Marciano
7. Sonny Liston
8. Joe Frazier
9. Jack Johnson
10. Jack Dempsey
11. Ezzard Charles
12. James J. Jeffries
13. Jersey Joe Walcott
14. Mike Tyson
15. Gene Tunney
16. Harry Wills
17. Sam Langford
18. John L. Sullivan
19. Max Schmeling
20. Max Baer
21. Floyd Patterson
22. Ken Norton
23. Riddick Bowe
24. Bob Fitzsimmons
25. Joe Jeannette
26. Jimmy Bivins
27. Jerry Quarry
28. Jack Sharkey
29. Archie Moore
30. Sam McVey
31. Cleveland Williams
32. Lennox Lewis
33. Earnie Shavers
34. Jim Corbett
35. Ernie Terrell
36. Michael Spinks
37. Jimmy Young
38. Zora Folley
39. Ingemar Johansson
40. Ron Lyle
41. Tim Witherspoon
42. Jimmy Ellis
43. Mike Weaver
44. Michael Moorer
45. James J. Braddock
46. Tommy Farr
47. Tommy Burns
48. Tommy Gibbons
49. Pinklon Thomas
50. Michael Dokes

 

[Stony Gwynn]

WOULD YOU PUT ALL 50 OF THOSE HEAVYWEIGHTS IN FRONT OF VLAD??? I HAVEN'T HEARD OF MOST OF THEM BUT LIKE I SAID I'M NO HISTORIAN SO I JUST WANNA HEAR WHY PEOPLE ARE SO DOWN ON VLAD...

 

[Anaheim*Rob]

Michael Spinks? He only had 5 fights at heavyweight.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

WOULD YOU PUT ALL 50 OF THOSE HEAVYWEIGHTS IN FRONT OF VLAD??? I HAVEN'T HEARD OF MOST OF THEM BUT LIKE I SAID I'M NO HISTORIAN SO I JUST WANNA HEAR WHY PEOPLE ARE SO DOWN ON VLAD...

A lot of those guys are old timers and simply to small guys weighing 185 pounds and shit so head to head wlad would smash a lot of them. All time great lists are typically based on accomplishments in their era etc. I'm sure if The Ring ever makes a new list wlad would be top 50 at least, I'm not very schooled on a lot of the real oldschool guys so I don't know. Heavyweights have always been overrated IMO anyway besides a handful the truly gifted fighters are almost always at the lower weights.

 

[naner12]

Agreed 100% on that last sentence. If Wlad wins this weekend and The Ring makes a new top 50 of all time Wlad would be on it 100%, I have no doubts about that.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

For sure. I don't mean too come of dissing wlad as he's done everything he's supposed to and its not his fault he lives in a crappy heavyweight era he deserves his respect and I currently have him in my top ten pound for pound so that says something he is skilled.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Both Klitschkos are fast, strong, and have the genetics of a Roman God.
People are hating for no viable reason. Who are they ducking? Valuev? Comon...

Haye is a top tier fighter as well. Adamek is far from a push over.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

41. Tim Witherspoon

This alone tells me that whoever came up with this list is delusional.
Tim Witherspoon? It was cool to watch him knock people's heads off on ESPN 2, but I don't know about him being a top 50 and the Klitschko's not being on there.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

That list does seem flawed

 

[dali]

I kinda hope for the sake of boxing that Wlad takes the L in this, but i doubt it's gonna happen. If Haye loses, all the current buzz about HWB would be gone instantly. It Would be even more interesting to see a fight between Haye vs Vitali, especially with the rage Vitali would have after Haye beating his little bro silly on some reverse Apollo Creed vs Ivan Drago typa shit. Can't wait for this fight!

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Apparently this is an outdoor arena and it's raining with strong winds! Fight is still on but if conditions get worse could be a problem

 

[dali]

^It's pretty cold for this time of the year too, only like 56°, but it might be warmer in the ring due to all the headlamps and spotlights and the warmth released by the crowd) The arena is usually a Football Stadium, most of the seats, including the ring obviously, will have a roof, and it's not the like the English fans aren't used to rain and wind on their football stands. Now there's not only 10.000 chavs cheering for Haye but also English weather, so much for the homeadvantage.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

If its cold they both better warm up bigtime the ring entrances will be very long I'm sure if they are stiff early KO

 

[dali]

I just read on German videotext that both fighters agreed upon certain rules:

1.If the fight is cancelled before the 4th round due to bad weather conditions, it will not be counted.

2. If the fight is cancelled after round 4th due to bad weather conditions, the winner will be whoever won most of the previous rounds.

 

[drunkaholic707]

what times does this shit start?

 

[TrEmEnDo InDo]

less than an hour right?

 

[2-0-Sixx]

1:45pm Pacific

 

[B-Buzz]