Danish man fights for State paid sex

[Mr. Nice Guy]

However, I cant agree with you legal prostitution ish. You make a valid point when you say that there would be STD testing etc, but do u really think if some whore's got an STD and she needs money that bad shes gonna respond to a positive STD test, or even get one? No, she'll do whatever she's gotta do for money and if that means spreading herpes or whatnot to other ppl just to make a couple bills they'll do it, garunteed

Whores would no longer be working independenly under their own judgement. If prostitution were legal they would be working for a company that would test and regulate tricks with STDs. You would no longer pick up girls on the corner, you would most like call something like an escort service or even visit a company in person that would be basing their reputation and financial success on whether or not their tricks were clean and top knotch or not.

 

[ColdBlooded]

what about bootleg whores? ones that work outside of the legal institutions?

 

[Hans]

Whores would no longer be working independenly under their own judgement. If prostitution were legal they would be working for a company that would test and regulate tricks with STDs. You would no longer pick up girls on the corner, you would most like call something like an escort service or even visit a company in person that would be basing their reputation and financial success on whether or not their tricks were clean and top knotch or not.

good point. so lets say some whore contracts AIDS and her employer has to let her go. she's obviously going to continue whoring herself outside the law if she needs the money that bad- just like ColBlooded mentioned.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

I’d imagine most consumers would only want to get a prostitute from a well established place of business that has high standards of STD testing. This of course is just an assumption. Perhaps we should investigate further into STD rates in countries with legal prostitution, how the sex industry is regulated (if at all), etc. For any of you European siccness members who have knowledge on this subject, please share. Or if anyone is willing to do some research online, please post your findings and sources.

It is my understanding that most European countries have legal prostitution, the most liberal of these being the Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland, and New Zealand.

Western Europe compared to developing countries has a MUCH lower STD rate amongst citizens (both, for the most part, have legal prostitution). The difference IMO is that well educated, sexually aware countries will always have lower STD rates compared to that of the poor, uneducated nations, regardless of prostitution.

One other thing to consider is the view of sex in Europe compared to the view of sex in Amerika. In Amerika, even though we are constantly shown sex through advertising and TV/Movies, sex is still a bit of a taboo and often displayed negatively while in Europe sex is viewed as being natural and apart of life. I think the two different mentalities plays a huge part on the spread of STDs.

 

[Hans]

it doesn't matter, why would our country promote something that's only going to spread disease...that's like giving americans the right to spray poisonous gases in public places

 

[Lamberto Quintero]

it doesn't matter, why would our country promote something that's only going to spread disease...that's like giving americans the right to spray poisonous gases in public places

The point everyone's trying to make is that if Prostitution is made legal, the whole idea of spreading disease through it can be regulated. Poisonous gases in public places? It's logic man, it's gonna happen whether it is legal or not, and if it stays illegal, then diseases can't be regulated.

 

[Hans]

^^ HMMM, maybe you should read more thoroughly when you post..

so lets say some whore contracts AIDS and her employer has to let her go. she's obviously going to continue whoring herself outside the law if she needs the money that bad- just like ColBlooded mentioned.

 

[Lamberto Quintero]

^^ HMMM, maybe you should read more thoroughly when you post..

Well, if there is legal prostitution, the bootleg whores will be less used in society.

 

[FunK-3-FivE]

it doesn't matter, why would our country promote something that's only going to spread disease...that's like giving americans the right to spray poisonous gases in public places

WRONG... legal prostitution in the US would NOT spread disease I will explain why....

From my understanding there are brothels in some states of the US? (Nevada) and in these brothels they are required by law to not only use proper protection and etc. etc. but they have a doc come in once a week to check the ladies... no spreading of disease. If you go to a legal brothel and catch the clap that brothel is LIABLE for what happens to you there it's a liability issue as well, the owner could loose his jollies for fookin up. ILLEGAL prostitution spreads disease, LEGAL prostitution is regulated so that it DOESN'T spread disease. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT IN LEGALIZING IT.

It's already been proven by your great state of Nevada

 

[2-0-Sixx]

^^Exactly. The government wouldn’t be promoting it, just regulating it.

I don’t think you’re taking into considering the LARGE amount of prostitution that goes on in Amerika. It’s huge. Like said, every city has prostitutes and millions of people pay for it. The simple argument here is that since it’s already occurring (and likely always will) why not regulate it to create a safer environment, for the consumer as well as the prostitutes?

Think of it like this. A man currently living in Amerika decides one night to get a prostitute. Since prostitutes are illegal, he has to find one off the street, go to a known place that has prostitutes (like a message parlor, etc.) or possibly call a call girl from the phone book. Now, all of these examples I’m sure have a high risk of STDs. If prostitution were legal, he could find a place that sells sex and has regular STD testing. Most men/women I would imagine would rather prefer a prostitute that has been tested than one that has not. Thus, this would decrease the spread of STDs rather than increase. This seems like simple logic to me, but perhaps I’m missing something.

 

[Hans]

oh really. what about illegal immigrants who can't officially get a job? if they cant get a job then they cant work for the adult companies or whatever, which mean they'll resort to independent, illegal prositution. and what about the whores who feel that they would rathwer be independant than work for a company? or how bout the whores that can't get hired cuz they already carry STDs, they'll just continue to whore outside of a business, illegally

 

[Lamberto Quintero]

oh really. what about illegal immigrants who can't officially get a job? if they cant get a job then they cant work for the adult companies or whatever, which mean they'll resort to independent, illegal prositution. and what about the whores who feel that they would rathwer be independant than work for a company? or how bout the whores that can't get hired cuz they already carry STDs, they'll just continue to whore outside of a business, illegally

What the hell do Illegal immigrants have to do with any of this? Don't make me lose respect for your opinion with a stupid thing like that. Of course there are gonna be people who go outside of the companies, but it's common sense for a man to know that he can't expect anything short of an STD from a non-regulated prostitute.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

First off, like I mentioned earlier, I'd imagine most consumers would prefer to go to a legit business that has regular STD testing rather than getting an illegitimate hooker off the street.

Second, as in the case of the Netherlands, illegal immigrants can work as prostitutes and receive the same benefits as a legal citizen. I think the US should have the same mentality but illegal immigrants and work is another topic comrade.

Third, you're really not making any arguments to back up as to why you think illegal prostitution slows down the spread of aids and why legal prostitution increases it.

Sure, I can agree that some people would choose to remain prostitutes illegally, but this does not prove any points. It seems as if you’re agreeing that legal, regulated prostitution would decrease the spread of STDs, but there would still be illegal hookers. Well, that’s true, but as I mentioned, most consumers would spend their money at an established place of business that regulates STD testing.

As of right now (besides some parts of Nevada) there is NO required STD testing, none, zero, nada and yet millions of people pay for sex. On one hand you have zero testing, on the other you have testing. Which one is safer?

 

[naner12]

oh really. what about illegal immigrants who can't officially get a job? if they cant get a job then they cant work for the adult companies or whatever, which mean they'll resort to independent, illegal prositution. and what about the whores who feel that they would rathwer be independant than work for a company? or how bout the whores that can't get hired cuz they already carry STDs, they'll just continue to whore outside of a business, illegally

so what you're saying is you rather the spread of STDs by prostitution not be cut down at all if it can't be cut down 100%? in that case we should shut down the porno industry as well .. because it's paying for sex either way and a whole 5-10 people out of everyone in the porno industry got HIV?

.. that makes no sense to me if we can cut down STDs through prostitution by even 25% by making it legal that would be well worth it to me.

 

[Hans]

What the hell do Illegal immigrants have to do with any of this?

umm...like i said..maybe you should read more thoroughly before you post

PEOPLE WHO ARE ILLEGAL CANNOT LEGALLY WORK FOR REGISTERED BUSINESSES. THEREFORE THEY WILL WORK OUTSIDE THE LAW, WHICH MEANS THEY WILL WHORE ON THE STREETS ILLEGALLY- WHICH MEANS THEIR STDS CANNOT AND WILL NOT BE REGULATED BY ANYONE OFFICIALLY.

seriously, read the posts before you add your 2 cents

 

[Hans]

so what you're saying is you rather the spread of STDs by prostitution not be cut down at all if it can't be cut down 100%? in that case we should shut down the porno industry as well .. because it's paying for sex either way and a whole 5-10 people out of everyone in the porno industry got HIV?

.. that makes no sense to me if we can cut down STDs through prostitution by even 25% by making it legal that would be well worth it to me.

no, what I'm saying is making it legal won't make anything better, all it will do is introduce all kinds of new people into an industry thats supposedly being created to regulate prostitution and STDs in a much more official way. So why create jobs and pay 1000s of whores money if it's not going to change the stats

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Hans, I'm really having a hard time undestanding your logic. Did you see my last post directed at you? If not, please refer to it and respond, especially the part where I stated that most consumers would prefer to buy sex from a place that offers regular std testing.

 

[CannibalCrow]

If prostitution were legalized, the government *would* step in and make sure it was regulated. There would be screenings to get into the business, because then the individual "companies" soliciting the prostitutes would be liable for the damages done if one of them had contracted an STD. Also, johns would be screened beforehand to keep the prostitutes safe. Look at it as if it were a legitimate business selling a good. There will always be the knock off brands ( Prostitutes who are working on their own for different reasons. Maybe they have an STD, or want to buy drugs, or support someone else and don't want to give a cut to their bosses.) but people will flock to those with real papers. If you were buying cigarettes, would you buy big brand Marlboro or hand rolled, sealed with his own spit" Joe's Brand Smokes!"?

Come on now. I see the points being addressed here and I just have to say that legalized prostitution *would* reduce the amount of STDs being spread in the industry. Why? Because to be a licensed prostitute, you would have rigorous screening. To be a john, you'd be screened first. There's enough clean folks out there to be able to get away with this process. Yes, there are dirty people out there who will try to work solo. But as I stated before, those who wanted to play safe would work through the legal prostitution companies.

If something is illegal, people will do whatever it takes to get it. If something is legal, more people will take the easier, less risky route.

 

[Hans]

First off, like I mentioned earlier, I'd imagine most consumers would prefer to go to a legit business that has regular STD testing rather than getting an illegitimate hooker off the street.

Second, as in the case of the Netherlands, illegal immigrants can work as prostitutes and receive the same benefits as a legal citizen. I think the US should have the same mentality but illegal immigrants and work is another topic comrade.

Third, you're really not making any arguments to back up as to why you think illegal prostitution slows down the spread of aids and why legal prostitution increases it.

Sure, I can agree that some people would choose to remain prostitutes illegally, but this does not prove any points. It seems as if you’re agreeing that legal, regulated prostitution would decrease the spread of STDs, but there would still be illegal hookers. Well, that’s true, but as I mentioned, most consumers would spend their money at an established place of business that regulates STD testing.

As of right now (besides some parts of Nevada) there is NO required STD testing, none, zero, nada and yet millions of people pay for sex. On one hand you have zero testing, on the other you have testing. Which one is safer?

my bad, missed ur post.

out of everyone here, you're the only making any valid points and I can honestly say that "yes, legal prostitution has its benefits" but i just dont see how making it legal is going to come anywhere near eradicating a problem. Just because there might be professional businesses that follow a perfect code of conduct and screen every customer and every employee, doesn't mean people are gonna wanna go there; prices would obviously be higher since you'd be paying for something much more professional and most perverts wana bust a nut for the cheapest price they can get. Plus they may not wana go down to the local whore house out if sheer laziness. think about it like this- how many people do you know that smoke weed all the time and risk being caught by the law when all they really need to do is go down to a cannibus club, get a card and throw in a little extra cash to smoke legally but never do? It'sthe same thing with the prostitution, although making it legal might help regulate and possibly better control STDs, it doesn't mean that people are going to go out of their ways to do it

 

[Talus]

mayn just like in germany the actual buisnesses are perfered for the girls and for the customers because the girls dont wanna get beat...taken for thier money or anything like that and fools want some top notch hoes that they can go to and not have to fret about stds....