Damn...almost got the bastard. Cheney targeted by Taleban bomber

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May 13, 2002
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Let's all hope next time it's not a miss....

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At least nine people have died in a suicide bombing at the main US base in Afghanistan during US Vice-President Dick Cheney's stay, US officials say.

Mr Cheney, who was unharmed, was staying at the Bagram base near Kabul.

The US military said the bomber was also killed. Some reports say 14 people died - more than 20 others were hurt.

The Taleban said they carried out the attack and that the attacker was trying to get to Mr Cheney, who was on an unannounced visit to the region.

A US spokesman described it as a "direct attack" on the base, which was put on red alert for a while.

Mr Cheney was said to be safely inside the compound at the time. He described hearing a "loud boom" and told reporters he had been briefly moved to a bomb shelter.

One US and one South Korean soldier were among the dead as well as a US government contractor who was a US national.

The others killed were Afghan civilians, many of whose distraught relatives gathered later outside the base.

Base operations commander Lt Col James Bonner said the bomber could not have got inside the base, 60km (40 miles) from Kabul.

"Our security measures were in place and the killer never had access to the base," he said in a statement.

"When he realised he would not be able to get onto the base he attacked the local population."

Talks delayed

Mr Cheney had breakfast with troops at the base and left about 90 minutes after the blast.

He held talks with President Hamid Karzai in Kabul on the deteriorating security situation before flying out of the country. It was "never an option" to scrap the talks, he said.

Shortly before the Bagram blast, there was another suicide bomb in the southern city of Kandahar, killing at least one person.

Elsewhere, Nato said it had killed three civilians in clashes in the south.

One person was shot dead by Nato troops in "self defence" near Kandahar on Tuesday, while two others had been hit by mortar fire in Helmand province a day earlier, a statement said.

The BBC's Charles Haviland in Kabul says Bagram is one of the most heavily guarded sites in Afghanistan and such incidents there are extremely rare.

The surrounding territory is heavily mined and people, including children, have frequently been injured by such devices.

Officials said the explosion occurred between the outside security gate and an inner gate guarded by US troops, some distance from living quarters at the base.

A trader in a market outside the base described the explosion as "huge", saying it shook market stalls.

Tough message

Mr Cheney's visit came amid increasing concern about insurgent activity in several areas of Afghanistan.

here are fears of a spring offensive by the Taleban and its allies as the snows clear.

There are 27,000 US troops in Afghanistan, the highest number since the invasion of 2001, to combat any offensive.

Mr Cheney arrived in Afghanistan on Monday after holding talks with Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf during a brief stop in Islamabad.

He urged Pakistan to do more to combat the Taleban near the Afghan border, but also praised its role in the "war on terror".

His visit comes as the US seeks to send a tough message to Pakistan that aid to the country could be cut unless efforts to catch militants are stepped up.

Afghanistan and Pakistan share a 1,400-mile (2,250km) border, and many Taleban fighters operate from bases on the Pakistani side.
 
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^^ACTUALLY, THERE IS A CONTRACTING AGENCY IN FRISCO I JUST SEEEN IN THE NEWS RECENTLY THAT WILL TRAIN YOU AND SEND YOU OUT THERE TO PROTECT HIGH RANKING OFFICIALS AND IM PRETTY SURE THERE IS MORE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY....
 
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MataSkonkas said:
^^ACTUALLY, THERE IS A CONTRACTING AGENCY IN FRISCO I JUST SEEEN IN THE NEWS RECENTLY THAT WILL TRAIN YOU AND SEND YOU OUT THERE TO PROTECT HIGH RANKING OFFICIALS AND IM PRETTY SURE THERE IS MORE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY....

Exactly, they recruit Mercenaries.

Paramilitary forces under private control are mercenaries.


Calling them contractors is creative wording similar to "death tax", "No child left behind", "partial birth abortion", etc.
 
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Yeah...I always thought about those "Contractors" and what they do. I bet they do the dirty...dirty work. and not really have to answer to anyone. An american troop wont torture you...but I bet an american "Contractor" will.
 
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Doberman said:
Yeah...I always thought about those "Contractors" and what they do. I bet they do the dirty...dirty work. and not really have to answer to anyone. An american troop wont torture you...but I bet an american "Contractor" will.
It's also a nice way to keep the US soldier death toll down. The 3,100 dead don't count contractors/mercenaries
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
It's also a nice way to keep the US soldier death toll down. The 3,100 dead don't count contractors/mercenaries
Deadpool said:
I wish they would stop using the term "Contractor" or "Civilian Contractor". Just say CIA or Mercenary.
why scare us sheep if its not necessary? obviously using this language serves the interest of the agenda. so isnt it just that you have a problem with the agenda? or do you oppose all manipulation of language and facts when dealing with the fickle public?
 
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A little honesty would be nice. If you're not doing something wrong why try to hide it?

I don’t call crack dealers urban pharmacological small business owners.
 
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Jesse fuckin' Rice said:
All hell woulda broke loose had he been killed. Bush woulda cracked that red phone out and fired every single Nuke we have and blown the Middle East into one, big crater.
Damn then maybe he needs to die, then we can just reduce the middle east to a parking lot.
 

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Deadpool said:
I wish they would stop using the term "Contractor" or "Civilian Contractor". Just say CIA or Mercenary.
In Bush's state of the union, he pretty much called for mercenaries to go over to the Middle East...at least, that's what I got from his words...as well as the fact the draft is still looming...

Too bad they didn't get to Dick head...maybe he'll get caught in cross fire and get shot in the face.

The only problem with that is, when some stupid corrupt fuck from the US gets killed, everyone (the ignorant people) in the US will freak and Bush will put martial law into effect, and then we'd be fucked for a good...10-20 years at least...
 
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Deadpool said:
You might want to re-read my reply. I don’t think you understood it.
i understood what you said just fine. you are contradicting yourself.

1)you went from implying its wrong for the US to hide our actions by making up misleading terms.
2)Then you said a little honesty would be nice if they arent doing anything wrong

So...lets assume, as you imply, that they are doing something wrong (misleading people using different labels). Now your second point means absolutely nothing because we arent talking about a group who is isnt doing anything wrong.
 
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What matters is; what the terminology is describing.

If using mercenary forces is legitimate wartime tactic and does not violate anything the U.S. stands for then there is no need to hide the fact that they are being used.

If we hold this to be true and they aren’t doing anything wrong then it would be nice to be honest and just say, “We’re using mercenaries”.

When something good happens does the government normally try to hide it? When something bad happens does the government normally tell everyone about it?

When they do something wrong they hide it. And when they want public approval to do something wrong they change it’s name and try and give it a positive light.

Which is why I used the example of crack dealers. If they are what they are, why not just call them crack dealers? But if you are trying to cover up the fact that what they do is wrong and legitimize the fact that you work with crack dealers you might want to call them “urban pharmacological small business owners”.

This can only lead people to believe that using mercenaries is bad. If it were good or even just “not bad” then they would just be called mercenaries. Instead we get contractors.