College and school in general...
- Thread starter Lamberto Quintero
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to Lamberto - ok agree to disagree. but like it or not our economy and way of life are going to steadily decrease if the rest of the world keeps getting better at math and science and we keep getting worse. all the journalism and psych majors in the world are not going to be able to save us from that.
I don't view education as a competition between "us" and other countries. I look at it on a personal level and I just want to be able to learn what I want to learn and work in a field that is exciting and interesting to me. I don't give a fuck if all the Chinese do is produce Math and Science geniuses, maybe they can figure out a way to lower the prices on electronics or something...
thats cool man. if psychology really interests you go for it. but i should warn you, the people studying psychology and doing graduate work in psychology are not really figuring out anything useful. if you really want to help society out you should do something more along the lines of neuroscience and stuff like that. those are the people that are coming up with cures and actually helping people. psychologists just have theories.
but anyways the fact is, the rest of the world is kicking our ass in math and science, which is good for their economy, bad for ours. we are the lone remaining military superpower because of decades past in which we were world leaders in math and science. it doesn't look like it is going to remain that way for long.
but anyways the fact is, the rest of the world is kicking our ass in math and science, which is good for their economy, bad for ours. we are the lone remaining military superpower because of decades past in which we were world leaders in math and science. it doesn't look like it is going to remain that way for long.
Shit, I'm not even a Psychology major, but I don't see the point in dismissing it as an unimportant field. And if people are going into college worrying about how we as a country stack up against others in terms of Math and Science, than they are in it for the wrong reasons. We are not robots for our government, at least not all of us...
i think you are assuming everything that has to do with the human mind falls under psychology. basically psychology is just a bunch of theories about how people deal with stuff and bullshit polls about what people think. USEFUL stuff comes out of the medical side of it, which, guess what, takes a lot of math and science to get into medical school!
and im not saying that just because we are falling behind other countries in math and science that should make people want to do it. its just the fact that they are doing something we are not in terms of educating people from the very start with a stronger basis in math and science so it is no big deal to them. it is a failure of our education system, not something special they are doing. we are also failing in providing vocational training to high school age kids, so the people that dont want to go to college dont have very many options. we need more technical type training too for practical stuff not just more math and science people.
and im not saying that just because we are falling behind other countries in math and science that should make people want to do it. its just the fact that they are doing something we are not in terms of educating people from the very start with a stronger basis in math and science so it is no big deal to them. it is a failure of our education system, not something special they are doing. we are also failing in providing vocational training to high school age kids, so the people that dont want to go to college dont have very many options. we need more technical type training too for practical stuff not just more math and science people.
um no actually you are completely wrong. studying the electrochemical processes in the brain to produce drugs to help people really doesnt have shit to do with psychology. im sorry to burst your bubble. this is from my uncle who is a neuroscientist at USC, he basically told me psychology as a whole could disappear and it wouldnt make a difference to him. epilepsy, autism, stuff like that will someday be cured by drugs thanks in no part to any psychologist ever.
So you're saying that psychology has nothing at all to do with drugs they produce to help the brain? Do they check for side effects? I just don't see how an expert in the field you talk of would have absolutely NO need for psychology when they are working with the brain and making cures for it. I guess I just am wrong...
Well psychologists do serve a purpose, and I am sure they have helped many people feel better about their problems and saved countless marriages, but is all lovey-dovey bullshit in my eyes. I am just trying to inform you that they really don't do anything on a large scale basis to help the human population, it is basically 1 on 1 counseling and shit like that. In terms of the big picture, I really do not think it is that important. But to each their own.
Very true. Education is #1 in my book. But people also need to understand the Spanish words educar and educacion, which as I'm sure you know have little to do with going to school.
There's a lot of idiots out there who can take classes until they're blue in the face, but will always be horrible with finances, or drink too much, and so on. School can only do so much for these people.
Funny how it works.....you take someone that goes to classes 4-5 days a week, and the gym 3 or more times a week...and you can nearly guarantee that person isn't an alcoholic, doesn't have a drug problem, is healthier and happier overall, etc. --- Take the same person, working Full time and taking classes on the side, Gym 0 times a week.....and well, you can fill in the blanks.
School/Work, the Gym (Exercise in general), Nutrition, Drugs (of any type).....they all go hand in hand. When one is out of balance, usually, all of them get thrown out of balance.
As for crappy majors---no major on its own is necessarily crappy. I've known several psychology majors, poli sci majors, etc. And while they are mostly useless, as with any Social Science, you do get to learn a lot of cool shit about people and society as a whole.
I feel the most sorry for Art History majors.....sad, sad individuals.
There's a lot of idiots out there who can take classes until they're blue in the face, but will always be horrible with finances, or drink too much, and so on. School can only do so much for these people.
Funny how it works.....you take someone that goes to classes 4-5 days a week, and the gym 3 or more times a week...and you can nearly guarantee that person isn't an alcoholic, doesn't have a drug problem, is healthier and happier overall, etc. --- Take the same person, working Full time and taking classes on the side, Gym 0 times a week.....and well, you can fill in the blanks.
School/Work, the Gym (Exercise in general), Nutrition, Drugs (of any type).....they all go hand in hand. When one is out of balance, usually, all of them get thrown out of balance.
As for crappy majors---no major on its own is necessarily crappy. I've known several psychology majors, poli sci majors, etc. And while they are mostly useless, as with any Social Science, you do get to learn a lot of cool shit about people and society as a whole.
I feel the most sorry for Art History majors.....sad, sad individuals.