CAPITAL PUNISHMENT

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^^She should have aborted too.

Stupid and irresponsible people should not have babies. Bad for society.

.if the kid comes out all fucked up then thats just another issue you gotta deal with along with living conditions etc
Thats a pretty fucked up thing to say. Punish the child because the mom is a crack-whore. Great logic.

There should be more abortions imo. Having a baby is probably one of the most selfish things a person can do.
 

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2-0-Sixx said:
^^She should have aborted too.

Stupid and irresponsible people should not have babies. Bad for society.



Thats a pretty fucked up thing to say. Punish the child because the mom is a crack-whore. Great logic.

There should be more abortions imo. Having a baby is probably one of the most selfish things a person can do.
well i would consider myself a christian (even thought my mom says i ain't cuz of my music lol)..but nonetheless...we shouldn't play with people's lives or try to play God ie..abortions and on topic, capital punishment!
oh i'ma a bad mother or a crack whore so iw ill kill my baby...
you killed 30 people so now we gonna kill you..
thats just how i see it, iam sure 2-0-Sixx is gonna give me a lecture now. :)
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
Stupid and irresponsible people should not have babies. Bad for society..
you say they shouldnt, but really it doesnt matter what you say. it happens.



2-0-Sixx said:
Thats a pretty fucked up thing to say. Punish the child because the mom is a crack-whore. Great logic..
hows it fucked up? letting a human live before it can make any choices on its own is punishment?

2-0-Sixx said:
There should be more abortions imo. Having a baby is probably one of the most selfish things a person can do.
feel free to let your mother know that. if shes still alive, and the rest of your ancesters which pass traits along to you....and essentially are your bloodline. creating a human LIFE is a very beautiful thing there is nothing like it and it truely is amazing, all world issues aside ( politics media trends stereiotypes etc....) creating life is continueing your name and your family bloodline and generation in this world. if you really believe what you just said, thats very disrespectful to everyone that made you who you are.
 
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Cmoke said:
you say they shouldnt, but really it doesnt matter what you say. it happens.
Same with abortions, they happen :lick:

hows it fucked up?
By giving birth to a child that has zero chance in life, that's how it's fucked up.

letting a human live before it can make any choices on its own is punishment?
Removing a clump of genectic code is not punishment, since a human has not been born or created. Abortion is a prevention.

feel free to let your mother know that. if shes still alive, and the rest of your ancesters which pass traits along to you....
I will tell anyone, including my mother, that we should all support the right to choose. If a women is not mentally, physically or financial stable, they should not have a baby. Do the responsible thing and use birth control, if all else fails, abort.

and essentially are your bloodline.
I don't give a shit about a bloodline. In 200 years will it really matter about MY blood?

creating a human LIFE is a very beautiful thing there is nothing like it and it truely is amazing,
I agree, but it's a horrible thing when wasted (born with crack moms, abusive parents, etc.).

creating life is continueing your name and your family bloodline and generation in this world.
Seriously, why should I care about continueing my bloodline or my family name? Isn't that a bit selfish? I think so. We have over 6 billion people on the planet. There is no need for me to reproduce. There is however a need for responsible people to adopt children, which is what I will likely do.

if you really believe what you just said, thats very disrespectful to everyone that made you who you are.
How so? I dont understand your logic.
 
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Ra$an said:
well i would consider myself a christian (even thought my mom says i ain't cuz of my music lol)..but nonetheless...we shouldn't play with people's lives or try to play God ie..abortions and on topic, capital punishment!
oh i'ma a bad mother or a crack whore so iw ill kill my baby...
you killed 30 people so now we gonna kill you..
thats just how i see it, iam sure 2-0-Sixx is gonna give me a lecture now. :)
If you're against abortion because you're christian, I'm not going to sit here and tell you you're wrong. Those are your beliefs and that's cool with me comrade.

I just have a problem with people telling other people what they can and cannot do with their bodies, which is what anti-abortionists are doing (mostly white men telling women what they can't do with their own bodies). If you dont beleive in them, dont have them, but dont force others to have those same beleifs.

The difference between abortion and capital punishment imo is that an abortion is genetic information, clumps of cells etc., execution is killing someone who has already been born, developed, created, is consious, etc.
 
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WHITE DEVIL said:
It's a simple matter of deciding whether or not to evoke harsh punishments to stop a crime. I would not support hand chopping, or execution of homosexuals by any means. If the death penalty is to be a true deterrent, though, it must be administered in a brutal and vicious fashion.
Do you honestly think that a brutal and vicious death penalty would serve as a deterrent any better than what we have now or life imprisonment? Look at gang violence, folks get caught up in that shit knowing full and well that the other side will probably kill em in a "brutal and vicious fashion". Does that deter them? hell no.

Also, do you really want to live in a country where the government kills its own citizens? Do you really trust the federal government with that kind of power?
 
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I'll have to restructure my idea then. Worse punishments would only work if applied on a very large scale, for everything from small to large offenses. The poor and the underclass in every society does not engage in rampant crime.

And we already live in a country where the federal government kills its own citizens. We live in a country where you are about one thousand times more likely to be killed by a fellow American. A grand total of 4,661 executions occurred in the U.S. in the period 1930 to 2002 with about two-thirds of the executions occurring in the first 20 years.

On the same hand, America's homicide rate stands at 12.0 per 100,000, or 2500 murders a year. Assuming a rate of 10.0 per 100k since 1930 and a population of 75 million graduating to 250 million by 2004, anywhere from one to two million people have been murdered in the US since 1930. So 1000000/4661, or as Mclean would say, alot by a little, means that you are 200 times more likely to be killed by your mailman than the US govt. And of those killed by the US govt., a vast majority have killed themselves. Even assuming a Govt. failure rate of 25 percent, which is fucking huge, 3/4 of those killed by the government were guilty of murder.

The government death sentence is among the less likely causes of death that exist. In fact, deer kill more people.
 
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^^^ i like your sig


this isnt a sensitive subject for me i really dont care too much about it, i just think people should handle thier responsibilities as a parent and you can give any kid a chance, most of the problems that you site are related to parenting skills anyways...your talking about killing "a clump" (human fetus) that you agree is amazing and kill it off like there was never going to anyone comin out of that woman with a personality and the right to live. people need to be responsible and accept risks if your gunna takem. but whatever im not gunna ramble. carry on
 
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Cmoke said:
^^^ i like your sig


your talking about killing "a clump" (human fetus) that you agree is amazing and kill it off like there was never going to anyone comin out of that woman with a personality and the right to live. people need to be responsible and accept risks if your gunna takem. but whatever im not gunna ramble. carry on

so do u think that its wrong for men to throw away their semen since it also couldve had a personality
 
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Cmoke said:
your talking about killing "a clump" (human fetus) that you agree is amazing and kill it off like there was never going to anyone comin out of that woman with a personality and the right to live.
It is amazing, but so is cancer. That doesnt mean we cannot remove the cells to prevent something we do not want.

Good point COPIUM brings up...I'm sure some people on this site have hand towels in their bedrooms with entire city populations in them. Hundreds of thousands of possible personalities destroyed thanks to online pictures of Vida Guerrera.
 
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im talking about sexual intercourse through a man and a woman which creates a child....some dude jerkin off doesnt have anything to do with it. it takes 2 to tango
 
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what about this what about that....im really not that intrested in this debate...maybe if i was a woman it would changes things but i really could careless..u coudl sit and list tons of possibilities about how semen could get into some bitches body....all i was saying was that if u gunna be a freak and do all that shit....then accept the consiquences...you know what will get a bitch preg or not...
 
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I'm just trying to understand your logic, I seriously don’t care what you personally believe is right or wrong.

If it's because you're a good "Christian" and/or believe in souls, that's one thing, but if not, I'd like to hear the rationale behind it.
 
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What if the girl gets pregnant even if they are using protection. Then dont you think they should have the right to abort since they were trying to prevent pregnancy?
Although you might say they should use abstenance, who really would want that.