Brotha Lynch aka Evil is makin beats again!!

[Fucky McFuckerson]

now, thats not just the "beat". its everything that went into putting them songs together. all the layers. thats production. on a classic.

Thats actually exactly what it is....just a beat.

Layers has nothing to do with production in your definition. Production includes mixing/mastering, recording, etc. Putting together some loops, using a drum kit, etc is just simply beat making. Thats what Lynch did. And it sounded dope, dont get me wrong. But the mixing on there wasnt great, i can tell you that.

And maybe Lynch did do all that...i dont know. I think the mixing and mastering were handled by someone else.

 

[AlcoholicLoser]

Yup... Bcuz he's selling them... and he said he would never have to do that again. I guess all this drama between him and Tech/Strange is over money.


Btw his asking price for his beats are absurd... His beats suck dog...

He has had some classic beats in the past you must not know about it... I dont give a shit about your opinion anyway your nuthin but a hater around here lookin like a fag in your lil avatar. Superman seriously?

 

[AlcoholicLoser]

TimeBomb is stalkin me... He must wanna suck my dick

the thread op is a faggot lynch groupie

Wow you sure do like to stalk me alot... Stop thinkin about me you pathetic faggot.. Your life is lame as fuck, you probley think about all your "siccness beef" all day long with me and c-lim and all the other people that know your a faggot. This website is your life.

BTW... Im far from a Lynch groupie... Thats like me sayin your a groupie of a artist you listen to alot. Just cuz my name is the name of his las cd dont mean shit. I made this name over a year ago... I havnt even been to a Lynch concert and I dont own all his albums.. Never met the dude, dont really care too.

So for now on, Dont come into my threads actin like a fuckin 90's baby lil retarded ass stalkin homo. If you actually got somethin to say about the thread topic then post it, just dont talk like a dumbass.

 

[BIG O.G. BLACKY]

He has had some classic beats in the past you must not know about it... I dont give a shit about your opinion anyway your nuthin but a hater around here lookin like a fag in your lil avatar. Superman seriously?

You're the one that looks like a faggot... Swinging on a grown man's nuts... You fucking Lynch groupie, your name is always popping up on some faggot shir defending your idol Lynch. I bet you would blow the whole madesick roster for an 8x9 Lynch autographed portrait. You faggots throw the word "hater" around too much, only faggot ass groupie bitches rides another man's nuts.

 

[speedboi]

There's some fucking idiots and haters on this forum. Let's say Lynch is hurting for money - what is he supposed to do in this situation? FUCKING HUSTLE. And if making beats and selling em is his hustle then what's the issue? Oh shit, a rapper isn't making enough money off of album sales nowadays! Is that a surprise? So he's hustling for his the way he knows how, that's a reason to insult someone now?

 

[BIG O.G. BLACKY]

There's some fucking idiots and haters on this forum. Let's say Lynch is hurting for money - what is he supposed to do in this situation? FUCKING HUSTLE. And if making beats and selling em is his hustle then what's the issue? Oh shit, a rapper isn't making enough money off of album sales nowadays! Is that a surprise? So he's hustling for his the way he knows how, that's a reason to insult someone now?

What's ur point? I said dudes hurting for money... That's no surprise. I didn't say he couldn't hustle. I just dont think his beats are any good these days. Go snatch some of your moms Masingil out of the medicine cabinet and rub it all over urself since you sound all pussy hurt about us criticizing Lynch.


I can't believe half u motherfuckas... Always sounding like some bitches and crying about shit and calling everybody haters. Yall on some female type shit... and this is a gangsta rap forum. hahaha

 

[speedboi]

My point is simple, how is "hurting for money" a criticism of any man? Ced robbed him of all his money when he was the most successful in his career - so where is the criticism? What's the point of saying that shit? Wait there is no point other than trying to hate on BLH because he gets more props than you think he deserves? You should find something more productive to waste your life with.

 

[sacra916ness]

Lynch produced for X-Raided Psycho Active, KRD Sac-town Funk, Mr. Doctor Setripn Bloccstyle, Hystables Murderfile...Hystables may be a factor in Lynch makin beats again..beacuse he said was hes gonna ask lynch to produce more shit for him

 

[BIG O.G. BLACKY]

My point is simple, how is "hurting for money" a criticism of any man? Ced robbed him of all his money when he was the most successful in his career - so where is the criticism? What's the point of saying that shit? Wait there is no point other than trying to hate on BLH because he gets more props than you think he deserves? You should find something more productive to waste your life with.

Ced robbed him for all his money? How do you know that? Lynch was under contract... Unless you know what the contract stated you shouldn't speak on it.

Mr. Doctor and X-Raided stated they were always taking care of fairly by Ced and the Label.

 

[MysticOracle]

Ced robbed him for all his money? How do you know that? Lynch was under contract... Unless you know what the contract stated you shouldn't speak on it.

Mr. Doctor and X-Raided stated they were always taking care of fairly by Ced and the Label.

i know he helped doc through his trial/bail shit kept him goin....as well as keeping X relevant...making music in prison

lynch signed into a shitty contract...there was beef because lynch didnt want to fulfill his contractual agreement..i think lynch feels he should have been gettin more than what he signed to....but until i see the contract its all speculation...ive heard lynch's side, but never heard ced's side and the one with the voice gets heard...all i know is without ced and black market would lynch/doc/raided even been known...seems to me like black market was the only label around for gangsta shit in sac...and they produced classics left and right...and for that i say thanks

 

[Foul Mouth]

Ced actually produced that album, he oversaw the whole project. His role as producer was much greater than Lynch's.

I know the artists don't wanna give Ced his props but there's a reason why all those artists that were with Black Market put out their best stuff while they were with Black Market. You notice who since Lynch has total control of his music his shit ain't that good? Ced wouldn't let a bad album come out under his lable...

your talkin about like Death Row Records shit was "executed" by Suge Knight. He over saw everything and wasnt gonna drop no bullshit, but thats the extent im sure. i dont think they had much creative influence on the actual music.

 

[Foul Mouth]

Thats actually exactly what it is....just a beat.

Layers has nothing to do with production in your definition. Production includes mixing/mastering, recording, etc. Putting together some loops, using a drum kit, etc is just simply beat making. Thats what Lynch did. And it sounded dope, dont get me wrong. But the mixing on there wasnt great, i can tell you that.

And maybe Lynch did do all that...i dont know. I think the mixing and mastering were handled by someone else.

by layers i mean the beat and recording and creating something over it. the whole process. the layers of the process. not layers of the beat.

recording is part of the production, but not necessarily a role of a producer. the recording can be done by some engineer that runs the boards that does whats told by "Cedsing", or it can be done by "Cedsing". and mixing and mastering is not mostly done by the "producer".

again, i know Cedsing executive produced all that Black Market shit, but i doubt much of him is heard through out SOTS. just like Suge Knight's influence isnt heard on The Chronic or Doggystyle.

 

[BIG O.G. BLACKY]

your talkin about like Death Row Records shit was "executed" by Suge Knight. He over saw everything and wasnt gonna drop no bullshit, but thats the extent im sure. i dont think they had much creative influence on the actual music.

Ced had a good distribution deal setup with Tommy Boy after Priority started flaking on them. Ced says Lynch fucked it up. It's all a business most artists get sucked into fucked up contracts it's a part if the business. I'm sure AWOL artists felt that Freddie Smith fucked them over too. It's sucks but it is what it is. In a perfect world these artists would all get cashed out accordingly. Ask Lynch I'm sure he will say it isn't as easy as he thought running your iwn record labor without the right finical backing.

 

[BIG O.G. BLACKY]

Cedric isn't as greedy as people make him out to be. He invested a lot of money into his lable... he paid for all the mixing/mastering, studio time, promo, artwork, publishing and ect... A lot of those albums had hella samples and he had to pay royalties/release to have the permishion to use them. I know Balloo did a song on Setripn and was cool enough to do it for free. A lot of people contributed on SODS and Bloccstle that never get mentioned. It was a team effort. Don't forget the role Meek had in the beginning either.

 

[speedboi]

I don't care if Lynch or any other rapper signed a contract or not. Yeah, it was legal, but it was still robbery. Ced did what he had to do to make money, which was master an album, get production, etc. Bet if he's as shrewd a business man as he seems to be that the money came out from the profits of the album and probably Lynch's side.

I'm not saying he wasn't a good business man, but he robbed his artists when he could. Imagine if he had paid his artists fairly, maybe he woulda had that Tommy Boy contract and both Black Market and Lynch would have stayed going strong.

It happens in sports all the time too so don't say anything about a contract. If Lynch was making him money and thought he should earn more of the profit (and any artist earning less than 50% of the profit should feel that way) Ced could have done the right thing and re-worked the terms of it.

 

[MysticOracle]

I don't care if Lynch or any other rapper signed a contract or not. Yeah, it was legal, but it was still robbery. Ced did what he had to do to make money, which was master an album, get production, etc. Bet if he's as shrewd a business man as he seems to be that the money came out from the profits of the album and probably Lynch's side.

I'm not saying he wasn't a good business man, but he robbed his artists when he could. Imagine if he had paid his artists fairly, maybe he woulda had that Tommy Boy contract and both Black Market and Lynch would have stayed going strong.

It happens in sports all the time too so don't say anything about a contract. If Lynch was making him money and thought he should earn more of the profit (and any artist earning less than 50% of the profit should feel that way) Ced could have done the right thing and re-worked the terms of it.

when has business ever been fair? even in a regular mans day to day job....everybody always think they worth more than they actually make....lynch signed into a faulty contract, thats not ceds fault..this is normal practice....look at ruthless and NWA, bone thugs...fuck...even master p and no limit...the business owner must make money and more than the employee at all times...its not anyones fault but the artist for not reading or having a lawyer to negotiate the contract properly...lynch was under a fucked contract...he might have been able to re-work his contract had he not jumped ship and bailed on his contractual obligations

ced might have signed him to fucked deal...but lynch didnt have any issue with agreeing to the terms..and thats business

lynch cant even run made sicc musicc like a label its still just a name...he's an artist not a business man...tech n9ne isnt a business man, he's an artist with a partnership with a strong business mind travis o'guin...and thats what lynch needs...someone with backing and a good sense of business to get made sicc moving in the right direction but lynch running things...shit DAAM didnt pop until he went to another label

 

[speedboi]

when has business ever been fair? even in a regular mans day to day job....everybody always think they worth more than they actually make....lynch signed into a faulty contract, thats not ceds fault..this is normal practice....look at ruthless and NWA, bone thugs...fuck...even master p and no limit...the business owner must make money and more than the employee at all times...its not anyones fault but the artist for not reading or having a lawyer to negotiate the contract properly...lynch was under a fucked contract...he might have been able to re-work his contract had he not jumped ship and bailed on his contractual obligations

ced might have signed him to fucked deal...but lynch didnt have any issue with agreeing to the terms..and thats business

lynch cant even run made sicc musicc like a label its still just a name...he's an artist not a business man...tech n9ne isnt a business man, he's an artist with a partnership with a strong business mind travis o'guin...and thats what lynch needs...someone with backing and a good sense of business to get made sicc moving in the right direction but lynch running things...shit DAAM didnt pop until he went to another label

And I don't disagree with a word you wrote, but people act like anyone signs a bad contract and they just have to live with it and aren't allowed to say shit about? Yep, people work shitty jobs, contracts, etc. at the expense of the rich and savvy, that's life, but if someone at Micky Ds wants to say "FUCK RONALD MCDONALD" I'm not going to tell him "well you applied for the job" - just because people have to subject themselves to a fucked system/economic model doesn't mean we have to be happy about it.

 

[BIG O.G. BLACKY]

^^^ since you know so much about the music industry and contracts and all why don't you break it down for us. Give some examples...

You keep insinuating that Lynch got robbed by Ced care to explain this? Do you know anything about the actual contract that he signed? I think you're basing your opinion solely on what Lynch has said. I think we got the idea that Lynch is upset and thinks he's untitled to more. Dude has a huge ego... I forth see problems with him and Strange you watch.

 

[bg taz loc]

Well, when you havent made beats in YEARS, and all of a sudden take it up again strictly to sell them...then yes. He is hurting. At least that is what it signals.



Sure...if you are a producer. Lynch is a rapper who just happens to have made some beats in the past.

dude lynch produce albums by him self not only his others as well so he is a producer

and aint like he aint made a beat in years that opinion unless u been with lynch erry day for years and aint seen him make a beat


and lastly there is a difference when your producing and beat making

 

[bg taz loc]

Ced actually produced that album, he oversaw the whole project. His role as producer was much greater than Lynch's.

I know the artists don't wanna give Ced his props but there's a reason why all those artists that were with Black Market put out their best stuff while they were with Black Market. You notice who since Lynch has total control of his music his shit ain't that good? Ced wouldn't let a bad album come out under his lable...

wrong

executive producer in reality is the financer of the project witch a production artist or production company seek to proivide the means in which to finalize the product thats produced by the artists