Boxing schedule for the month of July

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CZAR

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U know the funny thing about making weight or weight classes period is its really all bullshit! Chavez Jr. always comes into his fights around 180 or so but he fights in a 160 weight class. It shouldnt matter if u make weight if u are allowed to come in and fight at any weight u balloon up to. Of course u need weight classes because u cant have a 150 pounder fight a 200 pounder but they need to tighten up the rules and actually make u make weight at fight time or set a limit of like 5 pounds over or under or sum shit. I aint mad at Broner. Got Em!!
 
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You have to make weight though. If chavez didn't have to make weight he'd fight at 195 pounds at middleweight lol so that's a silly thing to say.

Plus the other thing is, it isn't always healthy to rehydrate so much weight. Chavez gets away with it now cuz he's still young, but typically if you're rehydrating 20 pounds it's going to be a big problem for your career. It's not safe, it's not healthy, it can slow you down and give you stamina problems, it can make you cut/bleed easier, you can be slow in the ring, etc. It's simply not good.

Also the IBF has a 10 pound rehydration maximum for it's title fights. Similarly the WBC just implemented a new rule in which a fighter can only rehydrate a maximum of 10% of their weight (so chavez can only rehydrate a maximum of 16 pounds against Sergio Martinez on Sept 15th).

But best believe Broner is to blame for this one. You saw his twitter pictures of all that junk food. He didn't care about making weight because he's been on record saying this is his last fight at 130 so he obviously didn't push himself hard enough to lose the extra few pounds. He just didn't care and didn't think about the consequences (he has to pay at least $60,000 of his own money to Escobedo and now that the fight is off he will not get his $300,000 purse).
 

CZAR

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You have to make weight though. If chavez didn't have to make weight he'd fight at 195 pounds at middleweight lol so that's a silly thing to say.

Plus the other thing is, it isn't always healthy to rehydrate so much weight. Chavez gets away with it now cuz he's still young, but typically if you're rehydrating 20 pounds it's going to be a big problem for your career. It's not safe, it's not healthy, it can slow you down and give you stamina problems, it can make you cut/bleed easier, you can be slow in the ring, etc. It's simply not good.

Also the IBF has a 10 pound rehydration maximum for it's title fights. Similarly the WBC just implemented a new rule in which a fighter can only rehydrate a maximum of 10% of their weight (so chavez can only rehydrate a maximum of 16 pounds against Sergio Martinez on Sept 15th).

But best believe Broner is to blame for this one. You saw his twitter pictures of all that junk food. He didn't care about making weight because he's been on record saying this is his last fight at 130 so he obviously didn't push himself hard enough to lose the extra few pounds. He just didn't care and didn't think about the consequences (he has to pay at least $60,000 of his own money to Escobedo and now that the fight is off he will not get his $300,000 purse).
I understand u have to make weight, but Im jut sayin I dont care for allowing a fighter to balloon back up the next day of the fight. Otherwise u might as well let cats fight at their natural weight. If Chavez walks around at 195 then he needs to be a cruiserweight hahahah. I dont know man just a thought. I think allowing a guy to balloon up 16 pounds is to much and 5-10 pounds is the most that should be allowed. I mean if u are in a certain weight class dammit then make the weight and fight at that weight so that it will be a legit weight class is all I ask. Also I do think u should just fight at your natural weight which is a whole nutha story. Why wouldnt u want to fight at the normal weight? Why try to lose weight and dehydrate when its not natural? We can go on and on about this. Got Em!!
 
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I understand that's why I hope more orginaztions follow the IBF & WBC and make restrictions on how much weight a guy can rehydrate.

but also keep in mind this is the system we have since the change to a 24-hour prior weigh in. the old way of weighing the day of the fight was just too dangerous. Guys were still cutting weight to make the weight class and what happens is they end up fighting dehydrated and it's medically proven that brain injury can occur at a hugely higher rate if your body (and yes your brain) is dehydrated. So we have to accept that for safety reasons.

Obviously on the downside is that guys can rehydrate a lot of weight. But if they can restrict that a bit it would help a lot.
 

CZAR

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I understand that's why I hope more orginaztions follow the IBF & WBC and make restrictions on how much weight a guy can rehydrate.

but also keep in mind this is the system we have since the change to a 24-hour prior weigh in. the old way of weighing the day of the fight was just too dangerous. Guys were still cutting weight to make the weight class and what happens is they end up fighting dehydrated and it's medically proven that brain injury can occur at a hugely higher rate if your body (and yes your brain) is dehydrated. So we have to accept that for safety reasons.

Obviously on the downside is that guys can rehydrate a lot of weight. But if they can restrict that a bit it would help a lot.
Yea I feel u, just sucks for some cats that balloon up hella big like Chavez Jr. and so fourth. Got Em!!
 

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The fight is on. War escobedo!!!!!
Escobedo got a nice payday., he will get a good beating for it too
fight is on. apparently Escobedo will get $400,000, which is more than broners $240,000 and a very good payday for a C class fighter indeed.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

Man I almost made other plans. Came back in here to find out the fight is on!!! Esconbedo is a hypocrite though. He said he wasnt about the money and even if they offered him a million he wouldnt fight. Hahahah money sure talks! Lets get it Broner! Got Em!!
 

CZAR

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no hate at all i just think he should tone it down on all that bs he does, get some quality to top opponents before you go out there lookin like an ass...thats all.
What if thats how he really is? Some people are flashy and flamboyant like that in real life. I dont think he is acting. He may be putting more on it than normal but its smart because thats how u become a mega star and make people want to see u. Boxing is about hype along with impressive wins. There are fighters with no personality who win but people wont pay to see them. Broner knows what he is doin and is about to get his money and make his mark in boxing! Got Em!!

It was just negotiation tactics.
He probably could have gotten another 50k if he wanted to be a dick about it.
I know but still. Got Em!!
 

CZAR

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everyone has a price czar. shit kirkland would have fought Canelo with one arm for a couple million.
Tru but in your example Kirkland said if he were to fight Canelo he had to be paid well because he was risking sumthin. Thats different than saying I dont care if u offered me a million I wouldnt fight and then settling for 400,000. Again no big deal just saying I found that funny and full of crap haha. Got Em!!