but he's been KO'd 5 times and took some real beatings in his career, it's just not adding up under bigface logic. He must be shot. Not past prime or lost a step or two, this is certified shot we're talking about. I mean how can he beat Lopez & Yamaguchi, who apparently aren't very good, and knock down and give a hell of a fight in Gamboa, who you call elite? It just doesn't compute! 5 KO losses, real beatings and yet knocks down Gamboa and wins rounds and goes the full distance? something isn't right! Oh and he also beat Robert Guerrero! wtf is going on here!?!?!