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[2-0-Sixx]

Duva is exposing the game in her big Stevenson lawsuit

Details From Main Events' Big Adonis Stevenson Lawsuit - Boxing News

It accuses Haymon and Schaefer of attempting “to wrest control of Golden Boy from Oscar De La Hoya for their own financial gain,” which ties in with the rumors and reports that have been in the boxing industry for the past few weeks.

“As part of this scheme, Schaefer has in some instances relinquished and in other instances not required promotional agreements with fighters which Golden Boy has built into attractions, in violation of his fiduciary duties, relying instead only on Haymon’s good will, placing the corporation in a weakened position,” the lawsuit accuses. “The concept is for Haymon and Schaefer to use Haymon’s fighter contracts to seek financing to both buy out De La Hoya and continue their violation of the Muhammad Ali Act in other respects for their financial gain.

“As part of this scheme, Haymon and Schaefer must show potential investors assets, including fighter contracts, and control of fighters and major fights to show that there is substance to potential investors,” the lawsuit claims, soon adding: “It is in connection with this scheme that Mr. Haymon’s interference with Main Events’ co-promotion agreement for the Stevenson-Kovalev bout becomes relevant. A management agreement with Adonis Stevenson is obviously a significant asset to show potential investors. Better still as an asset is an agreement for a major bout between a Golden Boy fighter and Mr. Stevenson.”

 

[WYNO707X4]

Fuck haymon,richard and floyd im not buying the fight on saturday..they the biggest cancer in the sport they need to go

 

[T-Rip]

Dont worry Floyd will still make 35 million with or without your money lol.

 

[RM211]

who gives a fucc how much floyd makes!

 

[T-Rip]

And who cares how much people hate him on here and bash him over and over and over............

 

[heyzel]

TEAM ANDRE WARD SAYS CSAC HAS "BENT OVER BACKWARDS" FOR DAN GOOSSEN DESPITE VIOLATING COMMISSION RULES
By Press Release | April 30, 2014
TEAM ANDRE WARD SAYS CSAC HAS

Josh Dubin and James Prince Statement on Behalf of Andre Ward

Dan Goossen likes to put out press releases that confuse the issue - so on behalf of Andre Ward, we want to be crystal clear: the 'legal issues' that he referred to are only just getting underway. It is only after a California judge or jury speaks that the legal issues will be resolved.

Today's decision from the California State Athletic Commission was not unexpected. From the very start, we do not feel that the commission has been looking out for the best interests of Andre Ward, the very boxer they are supposed to protect. To the contrary, for some inexplicable reason, the CSAC has continually bent over backwards to try to accommodate a promoter who we feel is taking horrible advantage of Andre and his career. It is difficult to understand why the CSAC has refused to enforce its own rules - first, by upholding Goossen Tutor's Promotional Agreement with Andre when we feel that Dan Goossen clearly violated the commission rules by failing to disclose his co-promotional agreement with Antonio Leonard, and now by continuing to recognize and in fact extend the agreement when it is in clear violation of a California labor law that prohibits promotional contracts that last more than seven years. Why the CSAC is favoring a promoter, even when it means turning a blind eye to its own rules and the law, is a bit of mystery at this point - but we can assure you that we will get to the bottom of why that is happening and bring it to full light. This is an important matter not just for Andre, but for any fighter that risks his or her life in the state of California.

This is not the end of Andre's fight to stand up for what he knows is right, but rather the beginning. The CSAC decision has only strengthened his resolve. Andre's lawsuit against Dan Goossen and his promotional company in California Superior Court is continuing to move forward. It has always been Andre's steadfast belief, as well as ours, that the state court system, not the CSAC, is the proper venue for his dispute with Dan Goossen. It is Team Ward's belief that the arbitration before the CSAC should not have proceeded while Andre's lawsuit is pending, so we do not feel that the decision is ultimately going to be binding.

We also want to be very clear about something else - when Andre filed his lawsuit against Dan Goossen late last year, he offered to continue to work with Dan while the case played out. Dan said that he would continue to pursue fights for Andre but since the Rodriguez bout, he has been unable to deliver. Andre is still waiting for an offer to fight, and the reality is that he is sitting on the shelf because Dan Goossen simply cannot make it happen. This is one of the precise reasons Andre is trying to free himself from this situation - he is stuck with a promoter who we do not feel can advance his career in the appropriate manner.

To all the fans, Andre appreciates your support and words of encouragement during this difficult time. We will keep you updated on the status of his lawsuit, and Andre will remain in shape and ready to fight should an offer come in the interim. Andre is looking forward to continuing the journey with all of his fans as soon as possible, and as always, is ready to face the best in the boxing world has to offer.

On Behalf of Andre Ward:

Josh Dubin & James Prince

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Andre Ward gonna fight Dan Goosen more times than Pacquiao fought Marquez! This guy thinks he's gonna take it to the supreme court or something lmao!

The funny thing is if he just kept fighting his contract would end 2015 but with the court delays it's now 2016. I don't understand his problems with Goosen he got paid over $2 million for his tune up against Rodriguez. He fought all the major stars 168

 

[heyzel]

Pacquiao-Bradley 2 fails to break 1 million buys
May 1st, 2014 | Post Comment - 168 Comments
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Pacquiao Bradley 2 Pacquiao vs. Bradley 2 timothy bradley manny pacquiao By Chris Williams: Sports Illustrated is reporting that their sources are telling them that the April 12th rematch between Manny Pacquiao and Tim Bradley brought in between 775,000 to 800,000 pay-per-view buys on HBO. There’s been a delay in the release of the official PPV numbers by HBO and Top Rank, so we’re still awaiting what they’ll be reporting. These PPV numbers are far, far below the 2.2 million PPV buys that Floyd Mayweather Jr’s last fight against Saul “Canelo” Alvarez brought in last September. Mayweather’s numbers were over twice as many, and that makes it even more difficult to arrange a fight between Mayweather and Pacquiao.

The PPV numbers for the Pacquiao-Bradley 2 fight are an improvement from the 475,000 for the Pacquiao vs. Brandon Rios fight last November, but the figures are below the 890,000 that the first Pacquiao vs. Bradley fight generated in 2012. The fact that Pacquiao’s numbers were below that could be from fan exhaustion at seeing one too many retread fights involving Pacquiao being matched against the same opponents. Since 2004, Pacquiao has fought Juan Manuel Marquez four times and Bradley twice. Those are six fights between the same guys.

The first fight between Pacquiao and Bradley was a dull affair with Bradley winning a decision that some fans didn’t agree with. While I had Bradley the winner, it was still a less than exciting fight. Bob Arum, the promoter for Pacquiao and Bradley, should have known better than to put on a rematch between them.

Pacquiao’s fights once were almost guaranteed to bring in over 1 million buys. From 2009 to 2011, Pacquiao was able to hit the 1 million+ PPV buy mark numerous times, even for mismatches against the likes of Shane Mosley and Antonio Margarito.

At the end of this year, Pacquiao’s contract with Top Rank will be expiring, and he’s got a big decision to make in terms of whether he should stay with Top Rank or move on. If Pacquiao stays with them, he’s going to need to fight bigger guys like Sergio Martinez and Miguel Cotto, because he’s not going to bring in a lot of PPV buys fighting Arum’s Top Rank stable fighters like Jessie Vargas, Bradley, Ruslan Provodnikov, Mike Alvarado, Terence Crawford, and Juan Manuel Marquez. The Pacquiao-Marquez 5 fight may bring in decent numbers, but no way will they go over 1 million buys. Fans have seen that fight way too many times for them to get excited about watching them fight for a fifth time.

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[heyzel]

Mayweather’s retirement talk a marketing ploy to increase PPV buys for Maidana fight?
May 1st, 2014 | Post Comment - 229 Comments
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Mayweather Maidana Mayweather vs. Maidana marcos rene maidana floyd mayweather jr By Dan Ambrose: Recently Floyd Mayweather Jr. (45-0, 26 KO’s) has been dropping hints that he may walk away from boxing after this Saturday’s unification bout against WBA 147lb champion Marcos Maidana (35-3, 31 KO’s) at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada. But as David Mayo from Mlive sees it, Mayweather could be using the retirement talk as a way of increasing interest in the Maidana fight in order to get as many fans interested in that fight as possible. What better way to do that than to say that this could be his last fight.

This is something that works, both in sports and with celebrity singers. They let the public know ahead of time that this will be their last performance, and the public responds by coming out in huge numbers in wanting to see that person one more time and become part of history. Additionally, the fans end up purchasing a lot of memorabilia due to their belief that this is the last time they’ll see this famous person.

“I’m contemplating everyday getting out the sport now,” said Mayweather. “I’m very, very comfortable.”

If Mayweather is serious about wanting to get out of the sport after this fight, it would be a disappointing bout for him to retire on. There are arguably bigger names that Mayweather could fight in his last match of his career, such as the winner of the Saul “Canelo” Alvarez vs. Erislandy Lara fight. Mayweather would do really well by facing the winner of that fight or the winner of the Sergio Martinez vs. Miguel Cotto bout. He could bring the winner of that fight down to 154 to fight them. Forget about Manny Pacquiao though. If he re-signs with Top Rank, then he’s made his choice that he doesn’t plan on fighting Mayweather. You can’t blame Mayweather for not fighting Pacquiao before he retires, because he’s already said he won’t fight him until he’s clear of Bob Arum.

Mayweather will need to keep talking retirement in the last two days before Saturday if he wants to drive up interest among fans for his fight against Maidana. The casual fans of the sport probably haven’t heard yet that this could be his last fight, so fight likely won’t get increased PPV sales from fans believing this will be the last time they see Mayweather fight. To get that kind of response from fans, a fighters has to start talking retirement as soon as the press tours start. It’s got be one of the slogans for the fight so that fans know that this could be the last time they see Mayweather. They didn’t do that here. Mayweather has only been hinting about it, and it’s probably not going to drive up PPV sales

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[2-0-Sixx]

775,000 to 800,000 pay-per-view buys is a lil better than expected tbh.

 

[WYNO707X4]

Manny is done hes slowly starting to fade away he aint the same no more...i think if he fights canelo it would be big but i think hes way to small for the ginger

 

[Coach E. No]

I guessed that the fight would do like 7-800k buys I think. It was a "BIG FIGHT" but not to the casual fan. Bradley isn't any more popular than Clottey which is sad. If he's the A-side to a fight, you'll be lucky to get 5k people to show up unless it's a really good fight on paper

 

[Tony]

Pacquiao's numbers are dippin' because he's cherry pickin.

 

[battle619]

But that's why Oscar wants to unite with Arum. Even if he did those numbers you can say they are lower than Floyd's, but business wise Floyd ain't even making that much of a business for Showtime. Canelo did 350k for his ppv and his next numbers might decline. I said a while ago Manny might drop to 140 and soon after the fight Roach came out saying the same thing. Once that happens he will be a mandatory for every belt at 140 and GBP will be forced to fight or drop every belt and get screwed the way Schaefer screwed GB from paying Lomo more for the fight vs Russel Jr. GB will not beat TR cuz of the backing they have from HBO. Since Floyd is too picky and won't let the next generation get their chance, Manny will and can face anyone from Thurman to Danny Garcia. Yes, Manny is seemimg repetitive with his opponents but at least TR gives their fighters PPV, GB doesn't. That's what Oscar wants.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Pacquiao's numbers are dippin' because he's cherry pickin.

Bradley's a cherry picm now? Lol

His numbers dipped cuz he got KTFO by Marquez, simple as that.

 

[Tony]

Rios was a cherry pick.... He had no chance of beating Pacquiao. He was used to make Pacquiao look good after getting KTFO. His numbers weren't dipping before he got KTFO? I think they were!!

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Rios was his comeback fight. You get KTFO Thats what ur supposed to do.

Pac JMM 4 did 1.25m buys

His fight before that was Bradley which did around 850k. Obviously neither were cherry picks.

 

[Coach E. No]

Asian fans ditched Pacquiao something awful. My homeboy from Laos called me after he got ko'd and said Pacquiao is soft, a faggot, karaoke singing bitch, etc... He was like "he deserves to lose, I'll never watch that faggot's fights ever again." He was drunk, but it was hilarious to me. He had never heard of him before I invited him over for the Pac/Barrera 2 fight and he ordered every single fight of his after that until Marquez 4. Then all of the sudden he can't stand him lol

 

[battle619]

Crawford vs Gamboa this summer! That's gonna be tight.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Looks like Golovkin vs Chavez isn't happening, as Chavez is having disputes with Top Rank and he may be sitting out for awhile. Golovkin will fight in July as planned, searching for new opponent now.