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Past prime no training fat Lewis beat the shit out of prime Vitali. What in the hell are u talking about the K-brothers would be food in the Lewis/Tyson era. Lewis is one of the best heavyweights ever in any era and I was a Lewis hater but Lennox has real boxing skills, one of the best power jabs in history and a brutal uppercut that would knock your head off. Ask Vitali about that Lennox uppercut.
^ damn it you're stupid. Did you even watch that fight? Wasn't Lewis losing on all of the cards when the fight was stopped? Cuts happen, it's boxing. And read what I said you faggot. I thought Lewis was an all time great heavyweight. But tell me that Wladimir doesn't have boxing skill and a great power jab as well.
I absolutely hated Lewis at the time as well but I gotta agree with bigface.
I wouldn't say Lewis beat the shit out of Vitali it was back and forth and lewis was down on the cards but we cant ignore he did this to his face:
I always thought Vitali was the best Klitscho but his resume is weaker than Wlads because of injuries and retirements.
I wouldn't say Lewis beat the shit out of Vitali it was back and forth and lewis was down on the cards but we cant ignore he did this to his face:
I always thought Vitali was the best Klitscho but his resume is weaker than Wlads because of injuries and retirements.
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I've never liked either of the Klitschko's but I'm starting to realize that I think I rated them too low. I thought Lewis was a beast but didn't throw the right hand often enough. I always felt like he could've knocked anyone out at any time with that right hand like he did to Rahman but rarely through it like that. Too bad we never got a rematch with those 2 even though Lewis would've likely just tried to jab from long range all night
Well Lewis didn't have the best chin so he had to protect it using his jab. Still he beat both the guys that knocked him out by stoppages.
Lewis was what, 39 years old against Vitali? Thats pretty ancient for a heavyweight not named George Foreman. I think it's clear he knew he wasn't the same guy anymore thus the retirement. Would have been nice to see a rematch though that was one of the last great heavyweight fights. Absolute bombs landed by both guys.
Lewis was what, 39 years old against Vitali? Thats pretty ancient for a heavyweight not named George Foreman. I think it's clear he knew he wasn't the same guy anymore thus the retirement. Would have been nice to see a rematch though that was one of the last great heavyweight fights. Absolute bombs landed by both guys.
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Shit is sad ain't it a future HOFer and legend gets no love. But Bradley vs. Marquez is not a PPV fight without a great undercard. I cant give Top Rank $60 -75 for there weak PPVs now if they made Manny vs. Rios and Marquez vs. Bradley on one card you wouldve had my money.
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Hennessey wanted Deontay Wilder for Tyson Fury on September 28th?
September 23rd, 2013 | Post Comment - 39 Comments
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tyson fury deontay wilder david haye By Scott Gilfoid: According to Hennessey Sports’ website, they looked at possibility of having American talent Deontay Wilder (29-0, 29 KO’s) step in and replace the injured David Haye against Hennessy-promoted heavyweight Tyson Fury (21-0, 15 KO’s) on September 28th. Unfortunately, they gave up on the idea for some reason.
Here’s the statement from Hennessey Sports’ website: “He [Fury] has done everything in his power to keep this date alive for his fans, even agreeing to fight Deontay Wilder on the 28th [if Team Wilder agreed], but this fight at short notice was obviously not considered to be box office.”
Are they kidding? Deontay vs. Fury would be a huge fight in the UK, and I could see this bout ending up generating as much interest as Haye vs. Fury. The problem though is Fury wouldn’t have time to get ready for the 6’7” Deontay with less than 1 week to go before the fight. With all that wasted time sparring with the likes of Michael Sprott and Steve Cunningham, Fury would out of his class if he walked into the ring with a huge knockout artist like Deontay facing him instead of the smaller, cruiserweight sized 6’2” Haye.
Even if Fury has some big heavyweights to spar with to get him ready for Deontay, he wouldn’t be ready, because there’s no one in the heavyweight division that can mimic Deontay’s speed and power. Of course there are some big heavyweights with power like the Klitschko brothers, but those guys don’t have Deontay’s right hand power or speed, and neither of them would ever agree to help Fury with sparring for Deontay.
I’m wondering if Hennessey even bothered to ask Deontay and his promoters at Golden Boy Promotions if they would be interested in fighting Fury on short notice, because I could see both of them saying yes in a heartbeat to this fight. They know what they have in Fury, and it would be an easy fight for Deontay.
I couldn’t see Fury making it out of the 1st round against him because he hits way too hard, and Fury has already shown that he has problems taking head shots in the past. It would likely be a terrible mismatch with Fury left face down on the canvas after getting nailed by one of Deontay’s sledgehammer right hand bombs.
I seriously doubt that Wilder was asked by Fury’s promoter if he would agree to step in and face him, because if he did Deontay would have been talking about it already.
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tyson fury deontay wilder david haye By Scott Gilfoid: According to Hennessey Sports’ website, they looked at possibility of having American talent Deontay Wilder (29-0, 29 KO’s) step in and replace the injured David Haye against Hennessy-promoted heavyweight Tyson Fury (21-0, 15 KO’s) on September 28th. Unfortunately, they gave up on the idea for some reason.
Here’s the statement from Hennessey Sports’ website: “He [Fury] has done everything in his power to keep this date alive for his fans, even agreeing to fight Deontay Wilder on the 28th [if Team Wilder agreed], but this fight at short notice was obviously not considered to be box office.”
Are they kidding? Deontay vs. Fury would be a huge fight in the UK, and I could see this bout ending up generating as much interest as Haye vs. Fury. The problem though is Fury wouldn’t have time to get ready for the 6’7” Deontay with less than 1 week to go before the fight. With all that wasted time sparring with the likes of Michael Sprott and Steve Cunningham, Fury would out of his class if he walked into the ring with a huge knockout artist like Deontay facing him instead of the smaller, cruiserweight sized 6’2” Haye.
Even if Fury has some big heavyweights to spar with to get him ready for Deontay, he wouldn’t be ready, because there’s no one in the heavyweight division that can mimic Deontay’s speed and power. Of course there are some big heavyweights with power like the Klitschko brothers, but those guys don’t have Deontay’s right hand power or speed, and neither of them would ever agree to help Fury with sparring for Deontay.
I’m wondering if Hennessey even bothered to ask Deontay and his promoters at Golden Boy Promotions if they would be interested in fighting Fury on short notice, because I could see both of them saying yes in a heartbeat to this fight. They know what they have in Fury, and it would be an easy fight for Deontay.
I couldn’t see Fury making it out of the 1st round against him because he hits way too hard, and Fury has already shown that he has problems taking head shots in the past. It would likely be a terrible mismatch with Fury left face down on the canvas after getting nailed by one of Deontay’s sledgehammer right hand bombs.
I seriously doubt that Wilder was asked by Fury’s promoter if he would agree to step in and face him, because if he did Deontay would have been talking about it already.
If I'm not mistaken, Marquez has actually done very well on PPV and better than his Mexican peers. The exception would be Canelo at this point I guess if you count all the cards he's been on but Marquez did very solid numbers. Granted, a majority was against Pac and Floyd for those #'s, but I think overall he's had the highest PPV #'s of any Mexican if all of those are included. Other ppv's that he's headlined weren't very good cards, the like the 1st round ko before Marquez/Pac 4 and his fight against Casamayor. His fight against Barrera did decent #'s. Barrera and Morales didn't do very good numbers throughout their careers compared to the huge #'s we are used to now, but for their weights (they basically made lower weight fighters superstars), Marquez did well at 135 and below.
Vera’s trainer wants a rehydration limit for Chavez Jr.
September 25th, 2013 | Post Comment - 50 Comments
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Chavez Jr. vs. Vera Brian Vera julio cesar chavez jr By Dan Ambrose: With the weigh-in limit being a mystery for Friday’s weigh-in for Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and Brian Vera, Ronnie Shields, the trainer for Vera, wants some kind of re-hydration limit to keep Chavez Jr. from ballooning up in weight for Saturday’s fight on HBO between Chavez Jr. and Vera, according to Steve Kim at Maxboxing.com.
Ronnie does not want Vera to get hurt by facing someone that could end up having a tremendous weight advantage over him in this fight.
As it is the weight for the weight is still an unknown at this point. It’s going to be at whatever weight that Chavez Jr. comes in at. That kind of shows you the power imbalance in this fight, because in a lot of cases a fight would fall through if a fighter failed to make weight, but not in this case.
This was a fight that originally was scheduled for 162, and then it was moved up to 163, 168 and then 173. Now it’s pretty much whatever Chavez Jr. comes in at.
As I was saying, Shields want a rehydration limit to keep Chavez Jr. from really ballooning up in weight after he rehydrates. It’s going to be interesting to see if Vera’s promoter Artie Pelullo will be able to get Chavez Jr’s promoter Bob Arum of Top Rank to agree to that. I doubt that’s going to happen.
Shields said to Steve Kim at Maxboxing.com “I care about Brian Vera the fighter, the person. They don’t give a f*** about Brian Vera, but I do. And this is about Brian’s health. Now, they don’t care because it’s all about money for them, but Brian is going to have to live to fight another day.”
I agree with Shields. It’s not worth it if Vera is going to have to take a beating from someone that could potentially outweigh him by as much as 15-25 pounds.
Vera takes a beating in this fight it could shorten his career. Having a cruiserweight-sized Chavez Jr. hitting Vera with shots is hardly fair.
Vera’s promoter needs to push hard to get some kind of re-hydration limit in effect to keep Chavez Jr. ballooning up to 200 lbs. after he rehydrates for this fight. With their not even being a weight limit for this fight, Chavez Jr. can pretty much come in at whatever he wants to.
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Chavez Jr. vs. Vera Brian Vera julio cesar chavez jr By Dan Ambrose: With the weigh-in limit being a mystery for Friday’s weigh-in for Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and Brian Vera, Ronnie Shields, the trainer for Vera, wants some kind of re-hydration limit to keep Chavez Jr. from ballooning up in weight for Saturday’s fight on HBO between Chavez Jr. and Vera, according to Steve Kim at Maxboxing.com.
Ronnie does not want Vera to get hurt by facing someone that could end up having a tremendous weight advantage over him in this fight.
As it is the weight for the weight is still an unknown at this point. It’s going to be at whatever weight that Chavez Jr. comes in at. That kind of shows you the power imbalance in this fight, because in a lot of cases a fight would fall through if a fighter failed to make weight, but not in this case.
This was a fight that originally was scheduled for 162, and then it was moved up to 163, 168 and then 173. Now it’s pretty much whatever Chavez Jr. comes in at.
As I was saying, Shields want a rehydration limit to keep Chavez Jr. from really ballooning up in weight after he rehydrates. It’s going to be interesting to see if Vera’s promoter Artie Pelullo will be able to get Chavez Jr’s promoter Bob Arum of Top Rank to agree to that. I doubt that’s going to happen.
Shields said to Steve Kim at Maxboxing.com “I care about Brian Vera the fighter, the person. They don’t give a f*** about Brian Vera, but I do. And this is about Brian’s health. Now, they don’t care because it’s all about money for them, but Brian is going to have to live to fight another day.”
I agree with Shields. It’s not worth it if Vera is going to have to take a beating from someone that could potentially outweigh him by as much as 15-25 pounds.
Vera takes a beating in this fight it could shorten his career. Having a cruiserweight-sized Chavez Jr. hitting Vera with shots is hardly fair.
Vera’s promoter needs to push hard to get some kind of re-hydration limit in effect to keep Chavez Jr. ballooning up to 200 lbs. after he rehydrates for this fight. With their not even being a weight limit for this fight, Chavez Jr. can pretty much come in at whatever he wants to.
Read more at Vera