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Joe Calzaghe was kinda lame to watch when he was active but I grew to appreciate his style a little more after he retired. I never liked the guy but he wasn't a bad fighter. For all the complaining about his style or the decisions he should've lost, no one ever flat out beat him. Any decision people are talking about are questionable at best and he obviously won those decisions officially. He landed more punches against Hopkins than anyone ever has, and that at least holds some weight.
Can't expect Hopkins to have the same stamina at 40+ as he did before it. I don't know if it was age or that he was tired of racking up defenses but from what I remember, it started near the DLH fight. He was losing the beginning of that fight before knocking him out. He seemed to settle into that style more and more as time went on and it obviously hurt him against Taylor (another potentially questionable decision) and even more so in the rematch.
Can't expect Hopkins to have the same stamina at 40+ as he did before it. I don't know if it was age or that he was tired of racking up defenses but from what I remember, it started near the DLH fight. He was losing the beginning of that fight before knocking him out. He seemed to settle into that style more and more as time went on and it obviously hurt him against Taylor (another potentially questionable decision) and even more so in the rematch.
I didn't watch the whole video. I think it's a b.s. video when it only shows the stoppage. Half the time they cut to the very very end of the stoppage, it's like hearing a sentence out of context. You could do that with a million stoppages in boxing. Half you'll agree with if you saw the whole fight, the other half you won't. Unless you watched the entire fight of all of those fights, the few seconds of each it showed are somewhat meaningless.
it shouldn't hold any weight because compubox is literally two guys with a clicker sitting ringside counting punches in real time. They can be terribly inaccurate and this was an example of that.
Ive spent more time than I should have and watched the entire fight on YouTube counting landed punches per round in slow motion. The madness of it! The conclusion was Hopkins actually out landed Calzaghe in nearly every single round. Compubox gave credit to joe clearly for fluries of punches that were missed or block. Now I certainly don't expect anyone to through this kind of torture but if you did and you were bored out of your mind, I guarantee you would agree Calzaghe didn't even come close to landing Compubox s number of 200. In face Id bet you'd be hard pressed to count 30 total clean punches in the entire 12 rounds.
Ive spent more time than I should have and watched the entire fight on YouTube counting landed punches per round in slow motion. The madness of it! The conclusion was Hopkins actually out landed Calzaghe in nearly every single round. Compubox gave credit to joe clearly for fluries of punches that were missed or block. Now I certainly don't expect anyone to through this kind of torture but if you did and you were bored out of your mind, I guarantee you would agree Calzaghe didn't even come close to landing Compubox s number of 200. In face Id bet you'd be hard pressed to count 30 total clean punches in the entire 12 rounds.
He was a good fighter. But part of the reason he never lost was because the lack of quality opponents over 10+ years of holding onto that WBO belt. Like I said before, out of those 21 title defenses, he fought only 8 guys that were ranked in the top 10. 8 out of 21. That's sad.
His excuse to not going to the states and fighitng Roy Jones, Hopkins, Taylor, etc. was that he had a fear of flying. Although he flew on holiday's and he flew to Germany to fight Veit. Of course once Hopkins was 43 years old, and Roy Jones was 40, he suddenly got over that fear of flying!
One proven american fighter that wanted to fight Calzaghe in Wales was Glen Johnson. Especially after Johnson beat Tarver & Roy Jones. He was set to fight Calzaghe three times and each of those three times Calzaghe pulled out.
So yeah, good fighter, no one beat him but he would been beat undoubatedly if he took some risks.
My favorite quote from Joe's Biography, when Joe writes about his son before the Roy Jones fight:
lmao
That sums up Calzaghe's career, IMO. Good fighter, never wanted to take any risks. It's a fact he had some really bad confidence issues. He's admitted this in his biography and his old promoter talked about it. For example, when Jeff Lacy came to Wales, which was the first test of Joe's career despite having 40 something fights, Joe was shaking and wanted to pull out of the fight on the day of the fight, but was talked out of it. To his credit, he got his shit together and beat the shit out of Lacy.
He gets credit for beating Kessler though, a solid B fighter. That was his best win. Lacy was a fantastic win at the time, but looking back now it's obvious Lacy was one dimensional and overhyped like mad. Watch his few fights prior to Calzaghe (against Robin Ried, etc.).
His excuse to not going to the states and fighitng Roy Jones, Hopkins, Taylor, etc. was that he had a fear of flying. Although he flew on holiday's and he flew to Germany to fight Veit. Of course once Hopkins was 43 years old, and Roy Jones was 40, he suddenly got over that fear of flying!
One proven american fighter that wanted to fight Calzaghe in Wales was Glen Johnson. Especially after Johnson beat Tarver & Roy Jones. He was set to fight Calzaghe three times and each of those three times Calzaghe pulled out.
So yeah, good fighter, no one beat him but he would been beat undoubatedly if he took some risks.
My favorite quote from Joe's Biography, when Joe writes about his son before the Roy Jones fight:
"He had also spent the Jones build-up watching footage of Jones' glory years, when he was at his peak, on You Tube.
"Connor was sobbing 'dad, he is amazing' and I tried to reassure him 'don't worry son, Jones isn't that good anymore.'
"Connor was sobbing 'dad, he is amazing' and I tried to reassure him 'don't worry son, Jones isn't that good anymore.'
lmao
That sums up Calzaghe's career, IMO. Good fighter, never wanted to take any risks. It's a fact he had some really bad confidence issues. He's admitted this in his biography and his old promoter talked about it. For example, when Jeff Lacy came to Wales, which was the first test of Joe's career despite having 40 something fights, Joe was shaking and wanted to pull out of the fight on the day of the fight, but was talked out of it. To his credit, he got his shit together and beat the shit out of Lacy.
He gets credit for beating Kessler though, a solid B fighter. That was his best win. Lacy was a fantastic win at the time, but looking back now it's obvious Lacy was one dimensional and overhyped like mad. Watch his few fights prior to Calzaghe (against Robin Ried, etc.).
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John "Iceman" Scully talks Chad Dawson, training the son of George Foreman, fighting, regrets, and "The Greatest"
By John J. Raspanti, Doghouse Boxing (Jan 28, 2013)
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John "Iceman" Scully
There are times when a boxing trainer, like the coach or manager of a professional team, is only as good as his last big event. If his undefeated fighter loses, suddenly the trainer might be overrated.
Sometimes a little criticism is warranted, but in most cases, it's convenient and easy. Five-time "Trainer of the Year" Freddie Roach was fired by Amir Khan and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. after both fighters lost bouts in 2012.
Trainer and former professional fighter John "Iceman" Scully heard through the grapevine last month that his fighter, light heavyweight champion Chad Dawson, had replaced him in favor of Eddie Mustfa Muhammad. Scully wasn't shocked. Eight months ago, while training Dawson for his fight with super middleweight champion Andre Ward, the "Iceman" could feel his influence slipping. Dawson was stopped in the 10th round against Ward, and soon some were pointing fingers at Scully.
In a wide-ranging interview conducted with this writer last week, Scully, 45, reflects on Dawson’s departure, training a famous son, his own regrets, and why Muhammad Ali still inspires him.
John J. Raspanti: How do you feel about Chad Dawson returning to Eddie Mustafa Muhammad?
John "Iceman" Scully:I think at this point Chad is kind of marching to the beat of his own drum, you know what I mean? I like Eddie a lot, we've always been cool over the years, and he knows Chad as well as anyone I suppose so that aspect of it all can't hurt.
JJR: Do you feel a little betrayed?
ICE: Normally I would, I suppose. I've known him since he was a pre-teenager, we go way back, and he basically didn't think as highly of our relationship as I did because I have literally not spoken to him since the night of the Ward fight. I heard about him going back to Eddie when someone posted it on my facebook page. That wasn't too cool but in this case there are two things that come to mind for me. One is that I learned a lot time ago when I first started out in boxing that trainers shouldn't fall in love with their fighters. There was a trainer from Hartford named Johnny Duke who always used to say, "Fighters come and go by the dozens, but trainers will always be here." So I learned not to sweat it. It's why I have never in my life had a contract with a fighter. I let it be known from the beginning. It's like a marriage or a relationship with a woman. If they want out then let them out. No piece of paper is going to make a relationship between two people work. I prefer clean breaks, no court case, no prolonging it all. The other thing, of course, is that Chad's relationship with past trainers is pretty well documented. I mean, I didn't need a road map or a crystal ball to tell me that as soon as he lost the first time with me in the corner that I was out of there.
JJR: When you were training Dawson for his fight with Andre Ward, did you get a sense that this could be your last (for the time being) fight together as trainer and fighter?
ICE: Well, to be honest, I actually got the sense of it from my end more than from his. Even if we were to win the fight with Ward there were several things that came about during the last camp that gave me the idea that I wasn't going to stay on for another camp. Some of the reasons are personal and I prefer not to go into them here but I can tell you that when I trained him in 2004 and 2005 and then when I trained him for the two Hopkins fights recently everything was great. We clicked very well. But something changed heading into camp for the Ward fight. It was just different. He was different. "Uncomfortable" is probably the best way to describe it all. I could give very specific examples but, let's just say it was different and it certainly wasn't fun anymore and leave it at that.
JJR: You've been training George Foreman's son Monk. How is that going? Does Monk fight like his famous father?
ICE: Monk is a good guy, a work in progress. He didn't have any amateur experience so, like Chavez Jr., he's kind of learning on the job. He actually resembles his dad, yeah, with some of his movements and in the ring mannerisms. It's very clear watching him box that he spent a lot of time around and picked up a lot of things from his dad, definitely.
JJR: Are there any other fighters you're working with that have the potential to go places?
ICE: Ihave a group of different levels of amateurs I'm working with every day at the The Lions Den Training Center in Middletown, Connecticut and also a few pros, too. I'm working with a very solid up and coming welterweight prospect originally from Puerto Rico named Javier "Chino" Flores who is 8-0 with seven knockouts. At this moment he is scheduled to box on a show on January 25th at the Chumash Casino in California. Gary Shaw signed him before his last fight so he's aligned with a high profile promoter who apparently has plans to keep him very busy. I also just started training a 4-0 junior welter named Jonathon Perez from Puerto Rico who looks pretty solid, too. Hoping to have him in his first fight under me within a couple months and get the ball rolling with him. I'm also supposed to begin working with a 7-2 middleweight from my area named Lee Ortega who, at age 35, is looking to make one last run at a professional career and he asked me to help him out so that's what I plan to do.
JJR: Who do you think is the best pound for pound fighter right now?
ICE: I can't see anyone other than Floyd Mayweather in that top spot right now. Andre Ward is making a really strong case but at this moment I can't move Floyd out of my top spot just yet. Andre keeps it up, though, and he'll be hard to deny.
By John J. Raspanti, Doghouse Boxing (Jan 28, 2013)
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John "Iceman" Scully
There are times when a boxing trainer, like the coach or manager of a professional team, is only as good as his last big event. If his undefeated fighter loses, suddenly the trainer might be overrated.
Sometimes a little criticism is warranted, but in most cases, it's convenient and easy. Five-time "Trainer of the Year" Freddie Roach was fired by Amir Khan and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. after both fighters lost bouts in 2012.
Trainer and former professional fighter John "Iceman" Scully heard through the grapevine last month that his fighter, light heavyweight champion Chad Dawson, had replaced him in favor of Eddie Mustfa Muhammad. Scully wasn't shocked. Eight months ago, while training Dawson for his fight with super middleweight champion Andre Ward, the "Iceman" could feel his influence slipping. Dawson was stopped in the 10th round against Ward, and soon some were pointing fingers at Scully.
In a wide-ranging interview conducted with this writer last week, Scully, 45, reflects on Dawson’s departure, training a famous son, his own regrets, and why Muhammad Ali still inspires him.
John J. Raspanti: How do you feel about Chad Dawson returning to Eddie Mustafa Muhammad?
John "Iceman" Scully:I think at this point Chad is kind of marching to the beat of his own drum, you know what I mean? I like Eddie a lot, we've always been cool over the years, and he knows Chad as well as anyone I suppose so that aspect of it all can't hurt.
JJR: Do you feel a little betrayed?
ICE: Normally I would, I suppose. I've known him since he was a pre-teenager, we go way back, and he basically didn't think as highly of our relationship as I did because I have literally not spoken to him since the night of the Ward fight. I heard about him going back to Eddie when someone posted it on my facebook page. That wasn't too cool but in this case there are two things that come to mind for me. One is that I learned a lot time ago when I first started out in boxing that trainers shouldn't fall in love with their fighters. There was a trainer from Hartford named Johnny Duke who always used to say, "Fighters come and go by the dozens, but trainers will always be here." So I learned not to sweat it. It's why I have never in my life had a contract with a fighter. I let it be known from the beginning. It's like a marriage or a relationship with a woman. If they want out then let them out. No piece of paper is going to make a relationship between two people work. I prefer clean breaks, no court case, no prolonging it all. The other thing, of course, is that Chad's relationship with past trainers is pretty well documented. I mean, I didn't need a road map or a crystal ball to tell me that as soon as he lost the first time with me in the corner that I was out of there.
JJR: When you were training Dawson for his fight with Andre Ward, did you get a sense that this could be your last (for the time being) fight together as trainer and fighter?
ICE: Well, to be honest, I actually got the sense of it from my end more than from his. Even if we were to win the fight with Ward there were several things that came about during the last camp that gave me the idea that I wasn't going to stay on for another camp. Some of the reasons are personal and I prefer not to go into them here but I can tell you that when I trained him in 2004 and 2005 and then when I trained him for the two Hopkins fights recently everything was great. We clicked very well. But something changed heading into camp for the Ward fight. It was just different. He was different. "Uncomfortable" is probably the best way to describe it all. I could give very specific examples but, let's just say it was different and it certainly wasn't fun anymore and leave it at that.
JJR: You've been training George Foreman's son Monk. How is that going? Does Monk fight like his famous father?
ICE: Monk is a good guy, a work in progress. He didn't have any amateur experience so, like Chavez Jr., he's kind of learning on the job. He actually resembles his dad, yeah, with some of his movements and in the ring mannerisms. It's very clear watching him box that he spent a lot of time around and picked up a lot of things from his dad, definitely.
JJR: Are there any other fighters you're working with that have the potential to go places?
ICE: Ihave a group of different levels of amateurs I'm working with every day at the The Lions Den Training Center in Middletown, Connecticut and also a few pros, too. I'm working with a very solid up and coming welterweight prospect originally from Puerto Rico named Javier "Chino" Flores who is 8-0 with seven knockouts. At this moment he is scheduled to box on a show on January 25th at the Chumash Casino in California. Gary Shaw signed him before his last fight so he's aligned with a high profile promoter who apparently has plans to keep him very busy. I also just started training a 4-0 junior welter named Jonathon Perez from Puerto Rico who looks pretty solid, too. Hoping to have him in his first fight under me within a couple months and get the ball rolling with him. I'm also supposed to begin working with a 7-2 middleweight from my area named Lee Ortega who, at age 35, is looking to make one last run at a professional career and he asked me to help him out so that's what I plan to do.
JJR: Who do you think is the best pound for pound fighter right now?
ICE: I can't see anyone other than Floyd Mayweather in that top spot right now. Andre Ward is making a really strong case but at this moment I can't move Floyd out of my top spot just yet. Andre keeps it up, though, and he'll be hard to deny.
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Malignaggi vs. Maidana possible for Judah-Garcia undercard on April 27th
January 28th, 2013 | Post Comment
Malignaggi Maidana Malignaggi vs. Maidana Judah Garcia Judah vs. Garcia zab judah paulie malignaggi marcos rene maidana danny garcia By Dan Ambrose: A fight between WBA World welterweight champion Paulie Malignaggi (32-4, 7 KO’s) and former WBA light welterweight champion Marcos Maidana (33-3, 30 KO’s) has been tentatively penciled in for the undercard of the Zab Judah vs. Danny Garcia fight card on April 27th at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York.
The Malignaggi-Maidana hasn’t been confirmed as of yet because there’s still a chance that Malignaggi might decide to defend his title against the World Boxing Association ordered #1 WBA challenger Diego Chavez or Malignaggi could still opt for a title-milking fight against the past his best 41-year-old Shane Mosley. Malignaggi sounded unsure when asked if he was still planning on fighting Mosley when asked last Saturday night by Showtime.
Maidana-Malignaggi is easily the best fight Malignaggi could make in terms of entertainment value for casual and hardcore boxing fans. Maidana has the power and the engine to force Malignaggi to fight for survival for 12 rounds. Maidana isn’t someone who can’t pull the trigger anymore or who will freeze up after the 2nd around and just move around the ring without throwing punches.
However, Maidana doesn’t have Mosley’s name recognition with the casual boxing crowd, so that could potentially get in the way of the Malignaggi-Maidana fight being made. Malignaggi’s promoters at Golden Boy might choose to go with the more established fighter in Mosley if the money is right for the fight.
Maidana is an exciting fighter with excellent power. However, he’s someone that you have to match carefully because there are guys that he’s just not going to do well against, such as Devon Alexander.
Malignaggi is clearly a step below Alexander in hand speed and power, so Maidana should do really well against him if this fight gets made. Hopefully, Golden Boy does the right thing by looking to make the more entertaining fight between Maidana and Malignaggi rather than the Mosley-Malignaggi, which promises to be a stinker of a fight.
January 28th, 2013 | Post Comment
Malignaggi Maidana Malignaggi vs. Maidana Judah Garcia Judah vs. Garcia zab judah paulie malignaggi marcos rene maidana danny garcia By Dan Ambrose: A fight between WBA World welterweight champion Paulie Malignaggi (32-4, 7 KO’s) and former WBA light welterweight champion Marcos Maidana (33-3, 30 KO’s) has been tentatively penciled in for the undercard of the Zab Judah vs. Danny Garcia fight card on April 27th at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York.
The Malignaggi-Maidana hasn’t been confirmed as of yet because there’s still a chance that Malignaggi might decide to defend his title against the World Boxing Association ordered #1 WBA challenger Diego Chavez or Malignaggi could still opt for a title-milking fight against the past his best 41-year-old Shane Mosley. Malignaggi sounded unsure when asked if he was still planning on fighting Mosley when asked last Saturday night by Showtime.
Maidana-Malignaggi is easily the best fight Malignaggi could make in terms of entertainment value for casual and hardcore boxing fans. Maidana has the power and the engine to force Malignaggi to fight for survival for 12 rounds. Maidana isn’t someone who can’t pull the trigger anymore or who will freeze up after the 2nd around and just move around the ring without throwing punches.
However, Maidana doesn’t have Mosley’s name recognition with the casual boxing crowd, so that could potentially get in the way of the Malignaggi-Maidana fight being made. Malignaggi’s promoters at Golden Boy might choose to go with the more established fighter in Mosley if the money is right for the fight.
Maidana is an exciting fighter with excellent power. However, he’s someone that you have to match carefully because there are guys that he’s just not going to do well against, such as Devon Alexander.
Malignaggi is clearly a step below Alexander in hand speed and power, so Maidana should do really well against him if this fight gets made. Hopefully, Golden Boy does the right thing by looking to make the more entertaining fight between Maidana and Malignaggi rather than the Mosley-Malignaggi, which promises to be a stinker of a fight.
De La Hoya: The $3 mil offer to Donaire/Top Rank is legit for Mares fight
January 27th, 2013 | Post Comment
Donaire Mares Donaire vs. Mares oscar de la hoya nonito donaire abner mares By Chris Williams: Oscar De La Hoya says that Golden Boy Promotions’ offer of $3 million to WBO super bantamweight champion Nonito Donaire and his promoters at Top Rank for a unification bout against WBC super bantamweight champion Abner Mares is totally legit.
The $3 million is for Donaire and Bob Arum of Top Rank to split among themselves depending on what percentage of a cut Top Rank takes out of Donaire’s purses when he fights.
De La Hoya said to thaboxingvoice.com “They [Donaire & Arum] can split it up the way they want to. I don’t know what type of deal they have with Bob Arum and Nonito. Maybe it’s a 60/40 deal, maybe it’s a 50/50 deal.
I don’t care, but the $3 million is on the table. It’s $3 million for Bob Arum’s side. Even if it’s a 50/50 split [between Donaire and Arum], it’s still a career high payday [for Donaire].”
De La Hoya went on to say that the reason why he can get such huge paydays for both Donaire and Mares is because of the high number of big sponsors that Golden Boy Promotions has working with them.
De La Hoya seems to be willing to do anything to make the Donaire-Mares fight happen, and this huge offer seems to be a clear example of how far he’s willing to go to make it happen.
De La Hoya said he doubts Arum will come back with a counter of more or even equal money to what Golden Boy offered because he doesn’t think Arum has the sponsors to generate that kind of revenue to make an offer like that.
De La Hoya says he’s okay with it if Arum does come up with a better option because he just wants to make the fight, and he’s not concerned anything else but that.
It Arum says no to this deal, which De La Hoya says is without any strings attached, then you have to wonder what it would take for Arum to let his fighter Donaire fight Mares. I personally think Donaire will beat Mares, so it’s hard to see Arum saying no to this deal.
The fighter that I see beating Donaire is WBA super bantamweight champion Guillermo Rigondeaux, but I don’t think Donaire will ever take the fight despite the fact that Arum seems eager to make it. The only way I see Rigondeaux getting the fight with Donaire is when Rigondeaux gets too old and starts to show signs of being over the hill. At that point, I see him getting the fight or at least having it offered to him.
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January 27th, 2013 | Post Comment
Donaire Mares Donaire vs. Mares oscar de la hoya nonito donaire abner mares By Chris Williams: Oscar De La Hoya says that Golden Boy Promotions’ offer of $3 million to WBO super bantamweight champion Nonito Donaire and his promoters at Top Rank for a unification bout against WBC super bantamweight champion Abner Mares is totally legit.
The $3 million is for Donaire and Bob Arum of Top Rank to split among themselves depending on what percentage of a cut Top Rank takes out of Donaire’s purses when he fights.
De La Hoya said to thaboxingvoice.com “They [Donaire & Arum] can split it up the way they want to. I don’t know what type of deal they have with Bob Arum and Nonito. Maybe it’s a 60/40 deal, maybe it’s a 50/50 deal.
I don’t care, but the $3 million is on the table. It’s $3 million for Bob Arum’s side. Even if it’s a 50/50 split [between Donaire and Arum], it’s still a career high payday [for Donaire].”
De La Hoya went on to say that the reason why he can get such huge paydays for both Donaire and Mares is because of the high number of big sponsors that Golden Boy Promotions has working with them.
De La Hoya seems to be willing to do anything to make the Donaire-Mares fight happen, and this huge offer seems to be a clear example of how far he’s willing to go to make it happen.
De La Hoya said he doubts Arum will come back with a counter of more or even equal money to what Golden Boy offered because he doesn’t think Arum has the sponsors to generate that kind of revenue to make an offer like that.
De La Hoya says he’s okay with it if Arum does come up with a better option because he just wants to make the fight, and he’s not concerned anything else but that.
It Arum says no to this deal, which De La Hoya says is without any strings attached, then you have to wonder what it would take for Arum to let his fighter Donaire fight Mares. I personally think Donaire will beat Mares, so it’s hard to see Arum saying no to this deal.
The fighter that I see beating Donaire is WBA super bantamweight champion Guillermo Rigondeaux, but I don’t think Donaire will ever take the fight despite the fact that Arum seems eager to make it. The only way I see Rigondeaux getting the fight with Donaire is when Rigondeaux gets too old and starts to show signs of being over the hill. At that point, I see him getting the fight or at least having it offered to him.
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De La Hoya: Bradley vs. Mayweather Jr. will never happen
January 27th, 2013 | Post Comment
timothy bradley oscar de la hoya floyd mayweather jr By Chris Williams: Oscar De La Hoya of Golden Boy Promotions ruled out Top Rank fighter WBO welterweight champion Tim Bradley as one of the candidates for Floyd Mayweather Jr’s next fight on May 4th, and he also doesn’t see them ever fighting.
De La Hoya said to the thaboxingvoice.com when asked if Bradley would fight Mayweather next, “No, never, that’s not even a possibility. If you look at their [Top Rank] roster of who they have, who is Tim Bradley going to fight? What do they have to keep telling him, a bunch of lies? It’s not fair to the fighter.”
I never really expected Bradley to be seriously considered as one of the candidates for Mayweather’s May 4th date, but De La Hoya is ruling Bradley out as a future opponent for Mayweather altogether by saying “Never.” De La Hoya probably knows Mayweather more than a lot of people about who he’d be willing or not willing to fight.
Mayweather might be interested in fighting Bradley if he wasn’t one of Arum’s Top Rank stable fighters. That right there might be enough for Mayweather to permanently ignore Bradley unless he leaves Top Rank and goes with a different promoter.
De La Hoya doesn’t see many options for Bradley at Top Rank. De La Hoya doesn’t see much in Arum’s stable for Bradley to fight. However, Bradley already got a big money fight against Manny Pacquiao, so he at least has that going for him. If Arum lets Bradley get a second shot at Manny, then Bradley won’t need to fight any of the other top welterweights because he’ll make enough money on that fight to live very comfortably for the rest of his life.
I would normally say that a chance of Bradley getting another crack at Pacquiao isn’t very good, but with Arum’s stable being pretty thin around the 140 to 147 pound area, it’s likely that Arum will put Bradley back in with Pacquiao if for no other reason because he doesn’t have many other options for his in house fights. There’s Brandon Rios and Bradley, and both of them are likely to get a shot at Pacquiao in 2014 unless Arum keeps matching Pacquiao against Juan Manuel Marquez over and over again until the boxing public get sick of it or one of them gets seriously hurt.
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January 27th, 2013 | Post Comment
timothy bradley oscar de la hoya floyd mayweather jr By Chris Williams: Oscar De La Hoya of Golden Boy Promotions ruled out Top Rank fighter WBO welterweight champion Tim Bradley as one of the candidates for Floyd Mayweather Jr’s next fight on May 4th, and he also doesn’t see them ever fighting.
De La Hoya said to the thaboxingvoice.com when asked if Bradley would fight Mayweather next, “No, never, that’s not even a possibility. If you look at their [Top Rank] roster of who they have, who is Tim Bradley going to fight? What do they have to keep telling him, a bunch of lies? It’s not fair to the fighter.”
I never really expected Bradley to be seriously considered as one of the candidates for Mayweather’s May 4th date, but De La Hoya is ruling Bradley out as a future opponent for Mayweather altogether by saying “Never.” De La Hoya probably knows Mayweather more than a lot of people about who he’d be willing or not willing to fight.
Mayweather might be interested in fighting Bradley if he wasn’t one of Arum’s Top Rank stable fighters. That right there might be enough for Mayweather to permanently ignore Bradley unless he leaves Top Rank and goes with a different promoter.
De La Hoya doesn’t see many options for Bradley at Top Rank. De La Hoya doesn’t see much in Arum’s stable for Bradley to fight. However, Bradley already got a big money fight against Manny Pacquiao, so he at least has that going for him. If Arum lets Bradley get a second shot at Manny, then Bradley won’t need to fight any of the other top welterweights because he’ll make enough money on that fight to live very comfortably for the rest of his life.
I would normally say that a chance of Bradley getting another crack at Pacquiao isn’t very good, but with Arum’s stable being pretty thin around the 140 to 147 pound area, it’s likely that Arum will put Bradley back in with Pacquiao if for no other reason because he doesn’t have many other options for his in house fights. There’s Brandon Rios and Bradley, and both of them are likely to get a shot at Pacquiao in 2014 unless Arum keeps matching Pacquiao against Juan Manuel Marquez over and over again until the boxing public get sick of it or one of them gets seriously hurt.
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Chris Williams articles always suck. He fails to mention bob arum offered the same deal to Golden Boy and Golden Boy wasn't having it. The problem, as usual, is Golden Boy and Top Rank won't co-promote with eachother. So this $3 million offer from Golden Boy was for them to promote the event by themselves, which was the exact same thing Top Rank offered Golden Boy. Only way this fight happens is if Mares is declared Donaires mandatory. At that point the promoters must negotiate. If an agreement is not made then it goes to a purse bid and the highest bidder gets to promote the fight. This is what happened with Lara vs Vanes.
Anyways, donaire vs Rigondeaux is the better fight imo.
Anyways, donaire vs Rigondeaux is the better fight imo.
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Golden Boy just signed Lamont Pederson. $10 they make a Matthysse fight.
Lamont Peterson Signs with Golden Boy Promotions - Boxing News
Lamont Peterson Signs with Golden Boy Promotions - Boxing News
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