Yea Russell is to small for dude and they probably wouldnt fight for a couple years at the least. I still dont think Russell can fade him though. Yea pretty much until u hit 140 at the very least, thats when u really get noticed and even the flamboyant Broner wont become that megastar until he reaches 140 I believe. Small fighters just dont excite the casual fans so thats why its so hard to get a PPV even from those classes. I can see Broner fighting at 140 by the end of next year. Got Em!!
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Arum talks Mayweather vs. Pacquiao in 2013
July 20th, 2012
By Babatis Banda: Promoter Bob Arum is talking about possibly putting up two fights in 2013 involving Floyd Mayweather Jr and Manny Pacquiao. In an interview with a named boxing organization, Arum says there is a possibility that the fight happens in 2013. Arum is talking as if he has everything on his finger-tips to make this fight a reality.
Does it mean that camp Pacquiao or Arum are going to bend to the wishes of Floyd Mayweather Jnr, or Arum is hoping for the 40/40/10 split as recently suggested? Does this really mean that Arum is confident Mayweather will be satisfied with his side’s demands? Does this really suggest that Arum has control over the situation and is able to make this fight?
There are a hundred and one questions that seem to have no answers. What seems to be real is that Arum is working up to reality. Arum is in sure realization that this fight has to be now or never. Arum can make good last money on Pacquiao now or forget about a Mayweather fight and the big money. Pacquiao is definitely on his way out, he will either be retired from the sport soon, or he will choose to walk out of the sport. Whichever way it happens, if Pacquiao has to be retired from the sport, it better be Mayweather. This ensures that the last hurray for Arum will be fat.
Look for Arum to make frantic efforts to put in Pacquiao in there with Floyd. I am sure he has realized that the arm twisting, the manipulation and the smearing will not work with Floyd. The only problem is that Floyd is in his strongest position ever, and team Pacquiao should be prepared to swallow hard.
July 20th, 2012
By Babatis Banda: Promoter Bob Arum is talking about possibly putting up two fights in 2013 involving Floyd Mayweather Jr and Manny Pacquiao. In an interview with a named boxing organization, Arum says there is a possibility that the fight happens in 2013. Arum is talking as if he has everything on his finger-tips to make this fight a reality.
Does it mean that camp Pacquiao or Arum are going to bend to the wishes of Floyd Mayweather Jnr, or Arum is hoping for the 40/40/10 split as recently suggested? Does this really mean that Arum is confident Mayweather will be satisfied with his side’s demands? Does this really suggest that Arum has control over the situation and is able to make this fight?
There are a hundred and one questions that seem to have no answers. What seems to be real is that Arum is working up to reality. Arum is in sure realization that this fight has to be now or never. Arum can make good last money on Pacquiao now or forget about a Mayweather fight and the big money. Pacquiao is definitely on his way out, he will either be retired from the sport soon, or he will choose to walk out of the sport. Whichever way it happens, if Pacquiao has to be retired from the sport, it better be Mayweather. This ensures that the last hurray for Arum will be fat.
Look for Arum to make frantic efforts to put in Pacquiao in there with Floyd. I am sure he has realized that the arm twisting, the manipulation and the smearing will not work with Floyd. The only problem is that Floyd is in his strongest position ever, and team Pacquiao should be prepared to swallow hard.
Shouldn’t Canelo Alvarez be facing a top 10 ranked 154 pound contender rather than Lopez?
July 20th, 2012
(Photo: Golden Boy Promotions, Ramiro Gonzalez, German Villasenor) By Dan Ambrose: It’s more than a little off putting to see how WBC junior middleweight champion Saul “Canelo” Alvarez (40-0-1, 29 KO’s) is being allowed by the World Boxing Council to face a fighter that’s not even ranked in the top 15 in the 154 pound division in Josesito Lopez (30-4, 18 KO’s) on September 15th rather than an actual contender that’s worked hard to try and get a title shot.
The WBC is really doing a disservice to all the top 15 ranked contenders that they have ranked in their top 15 by allowing Lopez, a light welterweight, to skip two divisions and take a title fight against the 22-year-old Alvarez. Lopez can probably hang tough enough to take a beating and get knocked out in the same way that many of the top 15 junior middleweight contenders would be if they were to fight Alvarez, but the difference here is that Lopez isn’t ranked by the WBC in the junior middleweight division and he shouldn’t be able to skip over more well deserving contenders to get that shot.
The sanctioning bodies like the WBC are supposed to be there to guard against this kind of stuff, because it makes boxing like some kind of professional wrestling in my view. If you’re one of the top 15 contenders in the junior middleweight division and you’ve been working hard and waiting to get a shot at the WBC title, it’s got to really hurt to see 140 pound contender being allowed to skip over you for a title shot.
The thing with Alvarez is that his whole title reign has been done in a way that seems like he’s been given an easy ride by his promoters at Golden Boy Promotions and the WBC said anything about. Alvarez won the WBC 154 pound title against a welterweight when he defeated Matthew Hatton last year for the vacant WBC belt. Why the World Boxing Council allowed a welterweight to fight for the vacant belt is beyond me. They might as have given the WBC title to Alvarez, because by matching him against a welterweight without any power in Hatton, it came out to be the same thing.
That shouldn’t have been allowed to happen, and now Alvarez is being allowed to go one step further by facing a light welterweight instead of junior middleweight. Can you imagine heavyweight Wladimir Klitschko being allowed to fight a light heavyweight instead of a heavyweight? Combing the light welterweight division for opponents to face Alvarez is just wrong. If Alvarez can’t fight the top junior middleweights like Erislandy Lara then he needs to give back the belt to the WBC and continue fighting welterweights like Hatton and light welterweights like Josesito Lopez, and no one complain about it.
July 20th, 2012
(Photo: Golden Boy Promotions, Ramiro Gonzalez, German Villasenor) By Dan Ambrose: It’s more than a little off putting to see how WBC junior middleweight champion Saul “Canelo” Alvarez (40-0-1, 29 KO’s) is being allowed by the World Boxing Council to face a fighter that’s not even ranked in the top 15 in the 154 pound division in Josesito Lopez (30-4, 18 KO’s) on September 15th rather than an actual contender that’s worked hard to try and get a title shot.
The WBC is really doing a disservice to all the top 15 ranked contenders that they have ranked in their top 15 by allowing Lopez, a light welterweight, to skip two divisions and take a title fight against the 22-year-old Alvarez. Lopez can probably hang tough enough to take a beating and get knocked out in the same way that many of the top 15 junior middleweight contenders would be if they were to fight Alvarez, but the difference here is that Lopez isn’t ranked by the WBC in the junior middleweight division and he shouldn’t be able to skip over more well deserving contenders to get that shot.
The sanctioning bodies like the WBC are supposed to be there to guard against this kind of stuff, because it makes boxing like some kind of professional wrestling in my view. If you’re one of the top 15 contenders in the junior middleweight division and you’ve been working hard and waiting to get a shot at the WBC title, it’s got to really hurt to see 140 pound contender being allowed to skip over you for a title shot.
The thing with Alvarez is that his whole title reign has been done in a way that seems like he’s been given an easy ride by his promoters at Golden Boy Promotions and the WBC said anything about. Alvarez won the WBC 154 pound title against a welterweight when he defeated Matthew Hatton last year for the vacant WBC belt. Why the World Boxing Council allowed a welterweight to fight for the vacant belt is beyond me. They might as have given the WBC title to Alvarez, because by matching him against a welterweight without any power in Hatton, it came out to be the same thing.
That shouldn’t have been allowed to happen, and now Alvarez is being allowed to go one step further by facing a light welterweight instead of junior middleweight. Can you imagine heavyweight Wladimir Klitschko being allowed to fight a light heavyweight instead of a heavyweight? Combing the light welterweight division for opponents to face Alvarez is just wrong. If Alvarez can’t fight the top junior middleweights like Erislandy Lara then he needs to give back the belt to the WBC and continue fighting welterweights like Hatton and light welterweights like Josesito Lopez, and no one complain about it.
Martinez: It’s time for the chickens to come out of the hen house
By Mariano A. Agmi
Sergio “Maravilla” Martinez finally gets his wish on Saturday, September 15th, when he faces WBC middleweight champion Julio Cesar Chavez, Jr. on HBO Pay-Per-View at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas. “We were calm because we knew that at some point things would work themselves out,” states Martinez (49-2-2, 28 KOs) of his state of mind as he waited over a year for the chance to regain his WBC title and land a marquee fight. “It was a matter of patience.”
We should all be familiar with this storyline by now: Martinez won the middleweight championship against Kelly Pavlik in April 2010 and was only able to defend it once before being stripped of the WBC title for not defending it against mandatory challenger Sebastian Zbik, a fighter whom HBO refused to approve as an opponent for Martinez. The WBC subsequently vacated the title, paving the way for Chavez Jr. to fight for it on HBO against the same Sebastian Zbik. In order to appease the frustrated Martinez, the WBC created a Diamond middleweight title that the Argentine won via 8th round TKO against formerly undefeated junior middleweight champion Serhiy Dzinziruk, another relatively unknown fighter that HBO somehow approved. The WBC promised Martinez that the Chavez Jr.-Zbik winner would have to immediately defend the title against the Martinez-Dzinziruk winner.
Immediate was not soon enough, as the WBC strung Martinez along for over a year with numerous promises of a mandatory title shot. Instead of high profile fights he felt he deserved after back-to-back spectacular wins over Pavlik and Paul Williams, Martinez settled for fighting lesser known but dangerous foes Darren Barker (KO 11) and Matthew Macklin (RTD 11) as he bided his time.
Tired of the empty promises of the WBC and upset that the young champion was practically handed the title that Martinez worked for 13 years to win, Martinez has been uncharacteristically outspoken about his lack of respect for Chavez Jr. before and in the lead up to this fight.
“Some ask me why I antagonize Chavez Jr.,” explains Martinez, “but I’m not being aggressive. I’m just telling the truth. I think it’s unjust for [the WBC] to lie to me and for Chavez to remain the champion even after having to fight me a while ago, and for things to be the way they are just to protect this boxer. [Team Chavez] gave their word that they would fight me. That gets me angry, but that’s all it is, and that’s why I say what I say. I’m speaking my mind, which is different from Chavez, who only says what his father wants him to say like some teenager.”
But a funny thing happened as Chavez Jr. was allowed to defend his championship against lesser opposition. The ‘Son of a Legend’ began to take the sport more seriously, hiring hall of fame trainer Freddie Roach and developing his family trademarks: a focused body attack and patiently stalking his opponents.
While Martinez toiled against the likes of Barker and Macklin, Chavez Jr. (46-0-1, 32 KOs) was learning on the job and improving against Peter Manfredo Jr. (TKO 5), Marco Antonio Rubio (W12) and Andy Lee (TKO 7). After 3 defenses against steadily better opposition, the young champion actually earned the right to fight for the Middleweight Championship.
“Thanks to all of his work in training with Freddie Roach, he’s clearly become a better fighter over the past year,” admits Martinez. “He used to be static fighter who would only come forward with a few speeds. Now he knows how to keep his distance in the ring and attempts to use his intelligence. That is important for him because he used to take a lot of punishment before and now he gets hit a little less.”
Rather than facing an undedicated and unpolished fighter who no one gave much of a chance of lasting a few rounds against him, Martinez will face a physically imposing 26-year-old fighter who is levels above what he showed before winning the title.
“I think that’s evidence of Freddie Roach’s work,” agrees Martinez. “Without that evolution as a fighter, he would not have been competitive against me before. At least now, he can enter the ring against me. It doesn’t guarantee him victory, but it does mean that he can give a good account of himself.”
Despite Chavez’s improvement as a fighter, Martinez is confident that the physical advantages he enjoys over Junior will make the difference in the fight.
“There is nothing that really worries me about him,” says Maravilla. “I know that he’s a fighter that is improving and is getting better every day, but nothing in particular about him worries me. On the contrary, there are many things that should worry him about me: the physical speed, the mental speed, experience, and the hunger to win that I have.”
Martinez is thought to have a decisive edge in hand and foot speed over Chavez Jr., which he counts among his keys to victory. Across the ring, Martinez expects to be facing a fighter who will likely come in 15 pounds above the middleweight limit on fight night.
“I’ll have to deal with his physical mass, but Paul Williams was taller than me and Kelly Pavlik was much bigger than me. In boxing, size doesn’t matter. He can weigh what he wants, but my advantage will still be speed. The bigger he is, the more of a target I’ll have to hit. He’ll have to move 180 pounds around for many rounds, and that will cost him.”
Martinez imagines a fight that will last several rounds as he pressures Chavez Jr., begins to pick him apart and builds up to a decisive ending.
“I don’t want to end this fight quickly,” states Martinez. “I want him to know what it’s like to be on this level and what it’s like to be against the real champion, and what it’s like to be with a person who will make you exert yourself to the max. I think that will help him to later decide whether he wants to continue fighting or not.”
What Martinez is cognizant of is that he’ll have to use lateral movement to ensure that he does not get caught the way his stable mate did last month.
“I’ll have to move more than Andy Lee, because he didn’t move much,” explains Martinez. “I’ll have to move, because you have to move if you don’t want to get hit. Movement and strategy will allow me to take little punishment while hitting him often.”
Martinez believes that his experience will allow him to make any necessary adjustments during the middle rounds of the fight to take it over, as he has in many of his fights.
“We don’t have a game plan yet. We need a few weeks of work, but if you pay attention to my bouts, you’ll see that I’m always the same and my opponents change. I may take a while to take over the fight and define it, like I did against Darren Barker, Matthew Macklin or Sergei Dzinziruk, but my work is the same.”
What Martinez wants to make sure of is that he ends the bout in spectacular fashion and does not give the judges a chance to take the fight away from him.
“Above all else, I always want to give a spectacular performance. I always look for the knockout, not in one round, but to work and construct the knockout. That’s what I try to do. I’ll knock him out between the 8th and 10th round. The judges can be present, but I won’t give them too much work to do.”
Confident as ever, the 37-year-old insists that Team Chavez’s quips about his age and their equating his movement in the ring to running are just things they say to get themselves up for the task.
“On September 15th, he’ll see that there is nothing old about me. He says things to try to psych himself up. When he says ‘I believe that Martinez is this or that,’ I don’t think he believes what he says he believes. I wouldn’t say the things he says. He’ll say ‘I think Martinez is the best middleweight, but I’ll give a good account of myself.’ That’s because he doesn’t trust his own ability. He’s attempting to convince himself that he can fight me, but he knows that he can’t.”
Martinez believes that Chavez Jr. was boxed into taking this fight because he would never get the respect that he craves as a fighter if he continued to duck the real middleweight champion.
“I think it was too much: if he didn’t take this fight against me, the little credibility that he was getting would be gone. It’s a question of dignity and credibility,” explains Martinez. “A little over a year ago they were hiding in the hen house. Now he’s improving and it’s time for the chickens to come out.”
Only two months to go before we find out whether Chavez Jr. is really up for the task.
By Mariano A. Agmi
Sergio “Maravilla” Martinez finally gets his wish on Saturday, September 15th, when he faces WBC middleweight champion Julio Cesar Chavez, Jr. on HBO Pay-Per-View at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas. “We were calm because we knew that at some point things would work themselves out,” states Martinez (49-2-2, 28 KOs) of his state of mind as he waited over a year for the chance to regain his WBC title and land a marquee fight. “It was a matter of patience.”
We should all be familiar with this storyline by now: Martinez won the middleweight championship against Kelly Pavlik in April 2010 and was only able to defend it once before being stripped of the WBC title for not defending it against mandatory challenger Sebastian Zbik, a fighter whom HBO refused to approve as an opponent for Martinez. The WBC subsequently vacated the title, paving the way for Chavez Jr. to fight for it on HBO against the same Sebastian Zbik. In order to appease the frustrated Martinez, the WBC created a Diamond middleweight title that the Argentine won via 8th round TKO against formerly undefeated junior middleweight champion Serhiy Dzinziruk, another relatively unknown fighter that HBO somehow approved. The WBC promised Martinez that the Chavez Jr.-Zbik winner would have to immediately defend the title against the Martinez-Dzinziruk winner.
Immediate was not soon enough, as the WBC strung Martinez along for over a year with numerous promises of a mandatory title shot. Instead of high profile fights he felt he deserved after back-to-back spectacular wins over Pavlik and Paul Williams, Martinez settled for fighting lesser known but dangerous foes Darren Barker (KO 11) and Matthew Macklin (RTD 11) as he bided his time.
Tired of the empty promises of the WBC and upset that the young champion was practically handed the title that Martinez worked for 13 years to win, Martinez has been uncharacteristically outspoken about his lack of respect for Chavez Jr. before and in the lead up to this fight.
“Some ask me why I antagonize Chavez Jr.,” explains Martinez, “but I’m not being aggressive. I’m just telling the truth. I think it’s unjust for [the WBC] to lie to me and for Chavez to remain the champion even after having to fight me a while ago, and for things to be the way they are just to protect this boxer. [Team Chavez] gave their word that they would fight me. That gets me angry, but that’s all it is, and that’s why I say what I say. I’m speaking my mind, which is different from Chavez, who only says what his father wants him to say like some teenager.”
But a funny thing happened as Chavez Jr. was allowed to defend his championship against lesser opposition. The ‘Son of a Legend’ began to take the sport more seriously, hiring hall of fame trainer Freddie Roach and developing his family trademarks: a focused body attack and patiently stalking his opponents.
While Martinez toiled against the likes of Barker and Macklin, Chavez Jr. (46-0-1, 32 KOs) was learning on the job and improving against Peter Manfredo Jr. (TKO 5), Marco Antonio Rubio (W12) and Andy Lee (TKO 7). After 3 defenses against steadily better opposition, the young champion actually earned the right to fight for the Middleweight Championship.
“Thanks to all of his work in training with Freddie Roach, he’s clearly become a better fighter over the past year,” admits Martinez. “He used to be static fighter who would only come forward with a few speeds. Now he knows how to keep his distance in the ring and attempts to use his intelligence. That is important for him because he used to take a lot of punishment before and now he gets hit a little less.”
Rather than facing an undedicated and unpolished fighter who no one gave much of a chance of lasting a few rounds against him, Martinez will face a physically imposing 26-year-old fighter who is levels above what he showed before winning the title.
“I think that’s evidence of Freddie Roach’s work,” agrees Martinez. “Without that evolution as a fighter, he would not have been competitive against me before. At least now, he can enter the ring against me. It doesn’t guarantee him victory, but it does mean that he can give a good account of himself.”
Despite Chavez’s improvement as a fighter, Martinez is confident that the physical advantages he enjoys over Junior will make the difference in the fight.
“There is nothing that really worries me about him,” says Maravilla. “I know that he’s a fighter that is improving and is getting better every day, but nothing in particular about him worries me. On the contrary, there are many things that should worry him about me: the physical speed, the mental speed, experience, and the hunger to win that I have.”
Martinez is thought to have a decisive edge in hand and foot speed over Chavez Jr., which he counts among his keys to victory. Across the ring, Martinez expects to be facing a fighter who will likely come in 15 pounds above the middleweight limit on fight night.
“I’ll have to deal with his physical mass, but Paul Williams was taller than me and Kelly Pavlik was much bigger than me. In boxing, size doesn’t matter. He can weigh what he wants, but my advantage will still be speed. The bigger he is, the more of a target I’ll have to hit. He’ll have to move 180 pounds around for many rounds, and that will cost him.”
Martinez imagines a fight that will last several rounds as he pressures Chavez Jr., begins to pick him apart and builds up to a decisive ending.
“I don’t want to end this fight quickly,” states Martinez. “I want him to know what it’s like to be on this level and what it’s like to be against the real champion, and what it’s like to be with a person who will make you exert yourself to the max. I think that will help him to later decide whether he wants to continue fighting or not.”
What Martinez is cognizant of is that he’ll have to use lateral movement to ensure that he does not get caught the way his stable mate did last month.
“I’ll have to move more than Andy Lee, because he didn’t move much,” explains Martinez. “I’ll have to move, because you have to move if you don’t want to get hit. Movement and strategy will allow me to take little punishment while hitting him often.”
Martinez believes that his experience will allow him to make any necessary adjustments during the middle rounds of the fight to take it over, as he has in many of his fights.
“We don’t have a game plan yet. We need a few weeks of work, but if you pay attention to my bouts, you’ll see that I’m always the same and my opponents change. I may take a while to take over the fight and define it, like I did against Darren Barker, Matthew Macklin or Sergei Dzinziruk, but my work is the same.”
What Martinez wants to make sure of is that he ends the bout in spectacular fashion and does not give the judges a chance to take the fight away from him.
“Above all else, I always want to give a spectacular performance. I always look for the knockout, not in one round, but to work and construct the knockout. That’s what I try to do. I’ll knock him out between the 8th and 10th round. The judges can be present, but I won’t give them too much work to do.”
Confident as ever, the 37-year-old insists that Team Chavez’s quips about his age and their equating his movement in the ring to running are just things they say to get themselves up for the task.
“On September 15th, he’ll see that there is nothing old about me. He says things to try to psych himself up. When he says ‘I believe that Martinez is this or that,’ I don’t think he believes what he says he believes. I wouldn’t say the things he says. He’ll say ‘I think Martinez is the best middleweight, but I’ll give a good account of myself.’ That’s because he doesn’t trust his own ability. He’s attempting to convince himself that he can fight me, but he knows that he can’t.”
Martinez believes that Chavez Jr. was boxed into taking this fight because he would never get the respect that he craves as a fighter if he continued to duck the real middleweight champion.
“I think it was too much: if he didn’t take this fight against me, the little credibility that he was getting would be gone. It’s a question of dignity and credibility,” explains Martinez. “A little over a year ago they were hiding in the hen house. Now he’s improving and it’s time for the chickens to come out.”
Only two months to go before we find out whether Chavez Jr. is really up for the task.
Naazim Richardson: I Don't Think Khan Can Make 140lbs Anymore
According to world-class trainer Naazim Richardson, the biggest decision that former jr welterweight champion Amir Khan has to make is whether or not it's time to leave the 140-pound division behind. After seeing Khan suffer his second loss in a row, the latest being a 4th round stoppage at the hands of Danny Garcia, Richardson believes that Khan's performances are partly due to the fact that it's been time for him to move up to the welterweight division. "Khan is a good fighter, but I tell you, I don't think Khan can make 140 pounds anymore," Richardson.
"He is one of those guys I remember when he approached me, I was looking at his shoulders and he is a big dude. Zab probably should have been his last fight at that weight. Lamont dug in him a little bit and now Danny stopped him, so he needs to get out of that division I don't think it's an easy weight for him to make anymore," Richardson explained, also noting that Khan has been talking about the idea of moving up in weight for quite some time now. While it's doubtful that making weight had anything to do with the left hook that Garcia landed near the neck and ear of Khan, many people have noted that he never seemed to have his legs under him after that punch, which is exactly the opposite of what they were saying after Khan somehow whether the storm after taking a number of big punches from Marcos Maidana in their bout.
Did Khan's decision to change Strength & Conditioning coaches play a role in his ability to absorb Garcia's punch? Time will tell, but either way, perhaps Richardson is right and maybe it is time for Khan to put the 140-pound division behind him.
According to world-class trainer Naazim Richardson, the biggest decision that former jr welterweight champion Amir Khan has to make is whether or not it's time to leave the 140-pound division behind. After seeing Khan suffer his second loss in a row, the latest being a 4th round stoppage at the hands of Danny Garcia, Richardson believes that Khan's performances are partly due to the fact that it's been time for him to move up to the welterweight division. "Khan is a good fighter, but I tell you, I don't think Khan can make 140 pounds anymore," Richardson.
"He is one of those guys I remember when he approached me, I was looking at his shoulders and he is a big dude. Zab probably should have been his last fight at that weight. Lamont dug in him a little bit and now Danny stopped him, so he needs to get out of that division I don't think it's an easy weight for him to make anymore," Richardson explained, also noting that Khan has been talking about the idea of moving up in weight for quite some time now. While it's doubtful that making weight had anything to do with the left hook that Garcia landed near the neck and ear of Khan, many people have noted that he never seemed to have his legs under him after that punch, which is exactly the opposite of what they were saying after Khan somehow whether the storm after taking a number of big punches from Marcos Maidana in their bout.
Did Khan's decision to change Strength & Conditioning coaches play a role in his ability to absorb Garcia's punch? Time will tell, but either way, perhaps Richardson is right and maybe it is time for Khan to put the 140-pound division behind him.
Vanes vs. Lara: Top Rank Outbids Golden Boy in Purse Bid
By Osman Rodriguez
According to Carl Morretti, Vice President of Top Rank, his company outbid Golden Boy Promotions to secure the rights to the WBC's final junior middleweight eliminator between Vanes Martirosyan (32-0, 20KOs) and Erislandy Lara (17-1-1, 11KOs). The mandatory purse bid was held this morning in Mexico. Top Rank, who promote Vanes, placed a bid of $405,000, and Golden Boy bid $326,000.
The winner will become the mandatory challenger to the upcoming fight between champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez and challenger Josesito Lopez, which takes place on September 15th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
This is a fight I want to see two guys that get a lot of hype, this fight will answer a lot of questions for both guys.
By Osman Rodriguez
According to Carl Morretti, Vice President of Top Rank, his company outbid Golden Boy Promotions to secure the rights to the WBC's final junior middleweight eliminator between Vanes Martirosyan (32-0, 20KOs) and Erislandy Lara (17-1-1, 11KOs). The mandatory purse bid was held this morning in Mexico. Top Rank, who promote Vanes, placed a bid of $405,000, and Golden Boy bid $326,000.
The winner will become the mandatory challenger to the upcoming fight between champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez and challenger Josesito Lopez, which takes place on September 15th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
This is a fight I want to see two guys that get a lot of hype, this fight will answer a lot of questions for both guys.
From what I hear Khan is going to work with Ariza, Nazim Richardson and Roach. He will train with Roach most of the time, but for all the times Roach is busy with Pacquiao or Chavez or whatever, he will be with Nazim 24/7. He'll also have Ariza back as his strength coach and from what I hear he'll be fighting at 147. Good "dream team" if you ask me. Working with Naz will do wonders for the young lad.
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Joan Guzman makes weight, 140 on the dot.
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Anthony Mundine's last fight against Bronco McKart....sold less that 300 tickets in Las Vegas. lmao
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Samual Peter makes his return on the Pascal-Cloud undercard in August
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Joan Guzman makes weight, 140 on the dot.
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Anthony Mundine's last fight against Bronco McKart....sold less that 300 tickets in Las Vegas. lmao
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Samual Peter makes his return on the Pascal-Cloud undercard in August
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I'm going to be brutally honest - Vanes fucking sucks. The guy is a bum beater, nothing more. If he actually fights Lara, I'll be shocked.
Besides, my money is on Vanes/Golden Boy pulling him out. They don't want him getting slaughtered on a Top Rank card. Not too mention TR wants this fight on the Chavez-Martinez undercard on Sept 15th. No way Golden Boy lets Vanes fight on that date when Canelo is having his big fight on the same night. This fight aint happening folks, not any time soon at least.
Besides, my money is on Vanes/Golden Boy pulling him out. They don't want him getting slaughtered on a Top Rank card. Not too mention TR wants this fight on the Chavez-Martinez undercard on Sept 15th. No way Golden Boy lets Vanes fight on that date when Canelo is having his big fight on the same night. This fight aint happening folks, not any time soon at least.
Boxing: Vitali open to Haye bout
Vitali Klitschko's promoter has hinted that his fighter remains open to the prospect of a clash with David Haye.
Bernd Boente, regarded as the man behind the Klitschko brothers' success, has admitted he was impressed by the Englishman's victory over Dereck Chisora last weekend; his first outing since a comprehensive points defeat to Wladimir Klitschko last July.
Haye has stated he would like to face Vitali next after a proposed clash with the WBC Champion on September 8 fell through, but the Ukranian is now set to face Manuel Charr on that date and may then hang up his gloves to pursue a career in politics.
However, Boente told Ringside he would not rule out the possibility of a clash at some stage.
"I can't foresee the future," he said. "We have to wait and see for September 8 and then the elections, but down the road let's see.
"It could be Vitali, it could be Wladimir some time next year. At this moment, promotion-wise, I think that fight makes no sense after one year, but let's see. David is definitely a flashy person, a personality and he is always in the media, so why not?
"We are all in an entertainment business and I'm sure that the Vitali versus David fight would be a thrilling fight, an interesting fight and would definitely be the fight the boxing world wants to see."
Vitali has stated he would like to finish the job his brother started by knocking out Haye, who once famously wore a T-shirt depicting himself carrying the severed heads of the Ukrainians.
And Boente feels that another Haye-Klitschko showdown would be prove to be one of the biggest tickets in boxing.
"Without any doubt," he added. "I would not even rule out a rematch between Wladimir and David down the road, but at this moment it makes no sense because Wladimir's win was clear.
"There were no question marks at all, but Vitali's fight against David would be by far one of the biggest fights in boxing, not only in the heavyweight division."
Vitali Klitschko's promoter has hinted that his fighter remains open to the prospect of a clash with David Haye.
Bernd Boente, regarded as the man behind the Klitschko brothers' success, has admitted he was impressed by the Englishman's victory over Dereck Chisora last weekend; his first outing since a comprehensive points defeat to Wladimir Klitschko last July.
Haye has stated he would like to face Vitali next after a proposed clash with the WBC Champion on September 8 fell through, but the Ukranian is now set to face Manuel Charr on that date and may then hang up his gloves to pursue a career in politics.
However, Boente told Ringside he would not rule out the possibility of a clash at some stage.
"I can't foresee the future," he said. "We have to wait and see for September 8 and then the elections, but down the road let's see.
"It could be Vitali, it could be Wladimir some time next year. At this moment, promotion-wise, I think that fight makes no sense after one year, but let's see. David is definitely a flashy person, a personality and he is always in the media, so why not?
"We are all in an entertainment business and I'm sure that the Vitali versus David fight would be a thrilling fight, an interesting fight and would definitely be the fight the boxing world wants to see."
Vitali has stated he would like to finish the job his brother started by knocking out Haye, who once famously wore a T-shirt depicting himself carrying the severed heads of the Ukrainians.
And Boente feels that another Haye-Klitschko showdown would be prove to be one of the biggest tickets in boxing.
"Without any doubt," he added. "I would not even rule out a rematch between Wladimir and David down the road, but at this moment it makes no sense because Wladimir's win was clear.
"There were no question marks at all, but Vitali's fight against David would be by far one of the biggest fights in boxing, not only in the heavyweight division."
Broner comes in over the limit at weigh-in, will lose WBO strap on the scales
July 20th, 2012
(Photo: Hoganphotos) By Scott Gilfoid: WBO super featherweight champion Adrien Broner (23-0, 19 KO’s) came in 3.5 pounds over the 130 pound super featherweight limit on Friday’s weigh-in with challenger Vincente Escobedo, according to Dan Rafael. As such, the 22-year-old Broner will lose his World Boxing Organization title on the scales. The title will still be up for grabs for the 30-year-old Escobedo, though, but Broner won’t have the opportunity to fight for it.
Rafael says “They’re negotiating a max weight for the Saturday weigh-in and money penalty.” I had a feeling that Broner was going to miss the weight, because he already said this was going to be his last fight at super featherweight and he looked painfully thin in the past week, like he was struggling badly to make the weight for the fight.
This doesn’t make much difference to the outcome of the fight. Escobedo is still going to be in WAY over his head against the talented Broner, and will still be lucky if he can make it to the 6th round. Hopefully for Broner’s sake the cash penalty isn’t too severe. That’s the only real issue here, because Broner wasn’t planning on keeping the WBO strap even after he destroyed Escobedo. It was just a trinket that he was going to toss away and then move on to the some bigger and better straps at lightweight.
Escobedo is really up against here. He’s been beaten soundly by Robert Guerrero and Michael Katsidis in the recent past, and now he’s facing a guy that’s arguably better than them in Broner. It’s going to go badly for Escobedo. If he runs he might last until the 8th, but that’s about all I can see from him. Escobedo will not win the fight, that’s not even an option here. It’s only how badly he’ll get beaten.
July 20th, 2012
(Photo: Hoganphotos) By Scott Gilfoid: WBO super featherweight champion Adrien Broner (23-0, 19 KO’s) came in 3.5 pounds over the 130 pound super featherweight limit on Friday’s weigh-in with challenger Vincente Escobedo, according to Dan Rafael. As such, the 22-year-old Broner will lose his World Boxing Organization title on the scales. The title will still be up for grabs for the 30-year-old Escobedo, though, but Broner won’t have the opportunity to fight for it.
Rafael says “They’re negotiating a max weight for the Saturday weigh-in and money penalty.” I had a feeling that Broner was going to miss the weight, because he already said this was going to be his last fight at super featherweight and he looked painfully thin in the past week, like he was struggling badly to make the weight for the fight.
This doesn’t make much difference to the outcome of the fight. Escobedo is still going to be in WAY over his head against the talented Broner, and will still be lucky if he can make it to the 6th round. Hopefully for Broner’s sake the cash penalty isn’t too severe. That’s the only real issue here, because Broner wasn’t planning on keeping the WBO strap even after he destroyed Escobedo. It was just a trinket that he was going to toss away and then move on to the some bigger and better straps at lightweight.
Escobedo is really up against here. He’s been beaten soundly by Robert Guerrero and Michael Katsidis in the recent past, and now he’s facing a guy that’s arguably better than them in Broner. It’s going to go badly for Escobedo. If he runs he might last until the 8th, but that’s about all I can see from him. Escobedo will not win the fight, that’s not even an option here. It’s only how badly he’ll get beaten.
teddy atlas is cool for talking about corruption in boxing and all that, but at the same time he can be full of shit. He's made up things before (anyone who's read his book knows there is incredible amount of BS in it) and he simply hates Mike Tyson. If he hears a rumor or whatever about a guy that he dislikes, he takes it as fact and runs with it. The other thing is a lot of the stuff he talks about Mike Tyson, you have to realize Tyson himself was just a kid - 14, 15 years old or so. And Atlas acts like Tyson was a grown man.