Tony who? How did he duck Mosley when he fought Mosley and whooped him? Please dont say Mosley was old and washed up because Mosley had just come off 2 very impressive wins over Mayorga & Margarito. People were saying this was the best Mosley had looked in a while and then he loses to Mayweather and now he is old! Hahahaha. Stop it. Now Pac however did duck Mosley and waited until Floyd fought him and then he was ready to fight him also. Stop it! Got Em!!
Boxing News Thread
- Thread starter heyzel
- Start date
[video=youtube;el_1X-Jo7YE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=el_1X-Jo7YE[/video]
Mayweather ducks everyone, then when he fights and beat them easily it's on to someone new he ducking. Margarito, Mosley, Cotto, Manny, and now Martinez. Next Mayweather will be ducking Froch and Ward. Listen to the HBO crew talking about fighters they want Mayweather to fight, then after he beats them he gets no credit.
Mayweather ducks everyone, then when he fights and beat them easily it's on to someone new he ducking. Margarito, Mosley, Cotto, Manny, and now Martinez. Next Mayweather will be ducking Froch and Ward. Listen to the HBO crew talking about fighters they want Mayweather to fight, then after he beats them he gets no credit.
Mayweather beat tony? I must have missed that fight. Because I remember "money" fighting baldomir for less money instead. And he ducked mosely and finally beat him later in his career, and I don't say he was shot. He did retire at a time where his division was at it's best and waited for everyone to beat eachother up. But I can't hate on him, he's the best and he's proven it these days. Just remember there WAS a time where mayweather did what canelo is doing, and that is waiting for the bigger fights and not taking high risk/low reward fights. He's already a huge draw, the name of the game is make money, or is it only cool when mayweather has that attitude?
Mayweather turns down $8 million to fight Margarito
By Dan Rafael | ESPN.com
• Print
Pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. rejected promoter Bob Arum's $8 million offer to fight welterweight titlist Antonio Margarito, and he instead exercised a provision in his contract to buy Arum out and become a promotional free agent, Arum told ESPN.com on Monday.According to Arum, Mayweather turned down the career-best purse to meet Margarito on Aug. 12 on HBO Pay-Per-View, instead opting for free agency by buying Arum out of their deal for $750,000.
"I did hear from him," Arum said of Mayweather. "He decided not to fight this summer. I made him a tremendous offer. I think Margarito is the riskiest fight for him of anyone out there."
Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com that Mayweather passed on the fight not because he is ducking Margarito, but because he couldn't be ready to fight by Aug. 12. Mayweather injured his right hand during a dominating April 8 victory against Zab Judah.
"Floyd is not 100 percent healthy," Ellerbe said. "He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It's bruised, but it's a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it.
"We are not turning down Margarito. I want to make that crystal clear. When and if he is the best available option for Floyd's next fight, that's the direction he will move in."
With Aug. 12 no longer set aside for a Mayweather fight, Arum said he will use the date to feature one of his other stars, heavyweight titlist Hasim Rahman, in a mandatory title defense against Oleg Maskaev on HBO PPV.
That bout, a rematch of Maskaev's 1999 knockout victory, took on greater significance last weekend in the wake of Wladimir Klitschko's title-winning knockout of Chris Byrd in Germany.
The reason: Among the four recognized heavyweight title holders, Klitschko became the third from a former Soviet republic to beat an American to win a belt, leaving Rahman as the lone American heavyweight champion and Maskaev poised to give Eastern Europe a sweep of the titles in boxing's marquee division.
Arum said Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.
"We're not sitting waiting on De La Hoya," Ellerbe said. "He's in a tough, tough fight with Mayorga."
Many in the sport believe a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight is the biggest fight on the horizon and the only one capable of generating 1 million-plus buys on pay-per-view.
The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.
Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.
Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.
"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."
Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."
The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.
Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.
"I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.
Instead, Arum is turning his attention to the Rahman-Maskaev fight.
Arum said that he and Maskaev representative Dennis Rappaport are about $300,000 apart on making a deal. If they don't finalize terms, the WBC will hold a purse bid May 1 in Mexico City.
But Arum is confident they will make the deal.
"We're very close," he said. "It will take another day to work it out."
Arum said he is already making arrangements to announce the fight at a news conference in New York on May 10. He added that the fight would take place at either Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, N.J., or at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas.
Arum said Margarito could wind up on the Rahman-Maskaev card in the co-feature.
"But it's tentative," Arum said. "If Mayweather decides to fight in September or October, and Margarito could still be a candidate, I want him to be flexible."
Quintero you good peoples but Margarito has never been a great fighter. Paul Williams exposed him, Mosley took his chin, and Manny put the nail in the coffin on his career. The only big fight Tony won in his career was against Cotto. Mayweather brought out of his contract to fight ODLH for $20 million and rest is history.
By Dan Rafael | ESPN.com
• Print
Pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. rejected promoter Bob Arum's $8 million offer to fight welterweight titlist Antonio Margarito, and he instead exercised a provision in his contract to buy Arum out and become a promotional free agent, Arum told ESPN.com on Monday.According to Arum, Mayweather turned down the career-best purse to meet Margarito on Aug. 12 on HBO Pay-Per-View, instead opting for free agency by buying Arum out of their deal for $750,000.
"I did hear from him," Arum said of Mayweather. "He decided not to fight this summer. I made him a tremendous offer. I think Margarito is the riskiest fight for him of anyone out there."
Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com that Mayweather passed on the fight not because he is ducking Margarito, but because he couldn't be ready to fight by Aug. 12. Mayweather injured his right hand during a dominating April 8 victory against Zab Judah.
"Floyd is not 100 percent healthy," Ellerbe said. "He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It's bruised, but it's a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it.
"We are not turning down Margarito. I want to make that crystal clear. When and if he is the best available option for Floyd's next fight, that's the direction he will move in."
With Aug. 12 no longer set aside for a Mayweather fight, Arum said he will use the date to feature one of his other stars, heavyweight titlist Hasim Rahman, in a mandatory title defense against Oleg Maskaev on HBO PPV.
That bout, a rematch of Maskaev's 1999 knockout victory, took on greater significance last weekend in the wake of Wladimir Klitschko's title-winning knockout of Chris Byrd in Germany.
The reason: Among the four recognized heavyweight title holders, Klitschko became the third from a former Soviet republic to beat an American to win a belt, leaving Rahman as the lone American heavyweight champion and Maskaev poised to give Eastern Europe a sweep of the titles in boxing's marquee division.
Arum said Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.
"We're not sitting waiting on De La Hoya," Ellerbe said. "He's in a tough, tough fight with Mayorga."
Many in the sport believe a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight is the biggest fight on the horizon and the only one capable of generating 1 million-plus buys on pay-per-view.
The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.
Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.
Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.
"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."
Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."
The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.
Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.
"I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.
Instead, Arum is turning his attention to the Rahman-Maskaev fight.
Arum said that he and Maskaev representative Dennis Rappaport are about $300,000 apart on making a deal. If they don't finalize terms, the WBC will hold a purse bid May 1 in Mexico City.
But Arum is confident they will make the deal.
"We're very close," he said. "It will take another day to work it out."
Arum said he is already making arrangements to announce the fight at a news conference in New York on May 10. He added that the fight would take place at either Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, N.J., or at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas.
Arum said Margarito could wind up on the Rahman-Maskaev card in the co-feature.
"But it's tentative," Arum said. "If Mayweather decides to fight in September or October, and Margarito could still be a candidate, I want him to be flexible."
Quintero you good peoples but Margarito has never been a great fighter. Paul Williams exposed him, Mosley took his chin, and Manny put the nail in the coffin on his career. The only big fight Tony won in his career was against Cotto. Mayweather brought out of his contract to fight ODLH for $20 million and rest is history.
mayweather earned his spot at DLH, floyd was pound 4 pound #1 fighter in the sport. plus DLH was a champion at 154 pounds when floyd fought him. how is that comparable to canelo?
again, Canelo hasn't really earned anything, floyd did. floyd fought many top fighters over many years to get to the top before he got the big payday. canelo hasn't. it really isn't comparable at all.
the only p3rson you bring up is margarito but it seems that fight didn't happen because floyd just split with top rank and margarito was with top rank. the other person u bring up was mosley but I seem to recall mosley having a tooth ache and turned down the fight.
the only thing I've criticized floyd for was retiring for two years but that's obviously a totally different thing altogether.
again, Canelo hasn't really earned anything, floyd did. floyd fought many top fighters over many years to get to the top before he got the big payday. canelo hasn't. it really isn't comparable at all.
the only p3rson you bring up is margarito but it seems that fight didn't happen because floyd just split with top rank and margarito was with top rank. the other person u bring up was mosley but I seem to recall mosley having a tooth ache and turned down the fight.
the only thing I've criticized floyd for was retiring for two years but that's obviously a totally different thing altogether.
Haha nice vid face! I know Mayweather has never ducked anyone in my opinion. Got Em!!
Bigface lacin fools haha. Got Em!!
Good stuff from 206. I like your unbiased opinion because I know u arent a Mayweather fan. People who think he ducked people are just silly. Also comparing Canelo to Mayweather is just plain dumb! Got Em!!
He never ducked Mosley. He fought Mosley when people still considered him the best or one of the top couple welterweights in the world. Got Em!!
Bigface lacin fools haha. Got Em!!
Good stuff from 206. I like your unbiased opinion because I know u arent a Mayweather fan. People who think he ducked people are just silly. Also comparing Canelo to Mayweather is just plain dumb! Got Em!!
He never ducked Mosley. He fought Mosley when people still considered him the best or one of the top couple welterweights in the world. Got Em!!
I didn't say he ducked Mosley I said people say he ducked Mosley. When the two men fought, Mosley was one of the top in the world but he wasn't the best. Again, the allegations of ducking started BEFORE the Floyd and ODH fight and the two (Mosley and Mayweather) have had some sort of "rivalry" since the 90's. You ever watch the face off with Floyd and Mosley? Do so as it sheds a bit of light on the history between the two guys.
Canelo and mayweather can't be compared in terms of skill and accomplishments yet, but both are huge draws in boxing and "feed" other boxers when they give them a chance. That's my point, and they both make a shitload of money in the sport. You may not agree, but people must earn a fight against canelo these days since he is such a huge draw, and there is no need to take high risk/low reward fights for him. If you criticize him for that, same goes for manny, Floyd and most other fighters these days. Seems like the fact that he's Mexican brings more hate and criticism.
People always want to fight the best but u have to wait your turn. That division has been loaded for years and Mosley got his chance once it was meant to be and he got destroyed! Got Em!!
U are still comparing Canelo to Floyd. Floyd is a much bigger draw than Canelo, which is the reason Canelo wants a fight with Mayweather. Canelo know that is the big money fight for himself. Canelo hasnt earned the right to do what Floyd does or call the shots on who gets a chance and who doesnt. He still needs to rpove how good he is actually because he really hasnt beaten anyone. I think Canelo is a very good fighter but facts are facts and he is nowhere near the level of Mayweather in any aspect of the sport! Got Em!!
U are still comparing Canelo to Floyd. Floyd is a much bigger draw than Canelo, which is the reason Canelo wants a fight with Mayweather. Canelo know that is the big money fight for himself. Canelo hasnt earned the right to do what Floyd does or call the shots on who gets a chance and who doesnt. He still needs to rpove how good he is actually because he really hasnt beaten anyone. I think Canelo is a very good fighter but facts are facts and he is nowhere near the level of Mayweather in any aspect of the sport! Got Em!!
^^^
Doesn't change the fact that floyd wants a big pay, and canelo happens to be the big pot of gold waiting for him on the other side of the rainbow. Also not to mention it is a very favorable match up for Mayweather, something he always considers when facing an opponent. Manny isn't happening, Cotto already said no, I highly doubt he fights Martinez, but if he does I will have even more respect for Floyd. So really who the hell is left for Floyd that would provide a bigger pay day then Canelo??
thank you team Canelo!! apparently they are saying its not mayorga and sources are saying its james kirkland! I take back the previous remarks lol
Team Canelo: Opponent To Be
Revealed Tomorrow
Click Here To Email Printable version Search BoxingScene Database
By Victor Gonzalez, notifight.com
According to trainer/manager Chepo Reynoso,
the next opponent for WBC 154-pound
champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (40-0-1,
29KOs) will be revealed on Monday by Golden
Boy Promotions President Oscar De La Hoya.
Chepo says De La Hoya will reveal the name of
Canelo's opponent on his offical Twitter page.
Canelo returns on a Showtime televised card on
September 15th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
"This past Friday, we spoke to Eric Gomez,
matchmaker for Golden Boy. We believe that
Oscar de la Hoya will use his Twitter to
make [the opponent] known. We will start the
promotional tour on Tuesday, the 24th of this
month in Los Angeles. We'll then go to New
York, Miami and Texas," Chepo said to
BoxingScene.com/NotiFight.com.
Chepo says that on Wednesday he will travel to
Los Angeles to begin the formal training with
Alvarez.
"The people of Golden Boy got a particular gym
in Santa Monica, which is really close to where
we will be living. For the opponent, we will ask
for about six sparring partners, and change them
as we work."
Despite the comments of Richardo Mayorga,
who claims to be traveling to the United States
on Tuesday to sign a contract to face Canelo,
sources close to the Mexican champion are
denying Mayorga's claims.
Strong rumors are circulating that James
Kirkland was possibly provided with a higher
offer to accept the fight with Canelo, but the
information has not been confirmed, or
denied, by the parties involved. Kirkland
previously agreed to face Canelo, but withdrew
less than 24 hours later. He initially claimed to
be suffering from a shoulder injury. Soon after,
Kirkland's adviser made a demand for a much
higher purse.
Team Canelo: Opponent To Be
Revealed Tomorrow
Click Here To Email Printable version Search BoxingScene Database
By Victor Gonzalez, notifight.com
According to trainer/manager Chepo Reynoso,
the next opponent for WBC 154-pound
champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (40-0-1,
29KOs) will be revealed on Monday by Golden
Boy Promotions President Oscar De La Hoya.
Chepo says De La Hoya will reveal the name of
Canelo's opponent on his offical Twitter page.
Canelo returns on a Showtime televised card on
September 15th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
"This past Friday, we spoke to Eric Gomez,
matchmaker for Golden Boy. We believe that
Oscar de la Hoya will use his Twitter to
make [the opponent] known. We will start the
promotional tour on Tuesday, the 24th of this
month in Los Angeles. We'll then go to New
York, Miami and Texas," Chepo said to
BoxingScene.com/NotiFight.com.
Chepo says that on Wednesday he will travel to
Los Angeles to begin the formal training with
Alvarez.
"The people of Golden Boy got a particular gym
in Santa Monica, which is really close to where
we will be living. For the opponent, we will ask
for about six sparring partners, and change them
as we work."
Despite the comments of Richardo Mayorga,
who claims to be traveling to the United States
on Tuesday to sign a contract to face Canelo,
sources close to the Mexican champion are
denying Mayorga's claims.
Strong rumors are circulating that James
Kirkland was possibly provided with a higher
offer to accept the fight with Canelo, but the
information has not been confirmed, or
denied, by the parties involved. Kirkland
previously agreed to face Canelo, but withdrew
less than 24 hours later. He initially claimed to
be suffering from a shoulder injury. Soon after,
Kirkland's adviser made a demand for a much
higher purse.
Dude Mayweather is getting a big payday no matter who he fights! Its Canelo that needs a big name to get that real pay day! Mayweather does not need Canelo its the other way around. I dont even know why we are discussing this? Its silly to keep acting like Canelo is in the same boat as Mayweather when he's clearly not. U might as well say Chavez Jr. is in the same boat also because he is a nice draw also and I think he is about as big a draw as Canelo or pretty close. Leave Mayweather out of this as this dude gets paid probably 10 times what those cats make or more. Got Em!!
Lam, you're fam and all but 206 already proved you wrong. Listen, you went on and on about mannyt his and floyd that, yet the same things you accused them of Canelo has done MORE. Let Canelo go fight Lara or one of the other champions, top ten ranked fighters and people coming off wins. He doesn't need any more "tune up" fights, bro.
And the fact that he is mexican has NOTHING to do with why he is being questioned.
And the fact that he is mexican has NOTHING to do with why he is being questioned.