Boxing News Thread

heyzel · Jun 24, 2012

What On Earth Next For Victor Ortiz!?

By James Slater - Well, Victor Ortiz did it again last night at The Staples Centre in L.A: he quit in a fight he was winning. Okay, far be it from me, or anyone else, to call a fighter a quitter or a coward for pulling out of a bout with as painful an injury as a broken jaw,(the injury Ortiz is suspected to have suffered last night against huge underdog Josesito Lopez) but the future sure looks bleak for "Vicious" Victor right now.

In light of the former WBC welterweight champ's previous behaviour (quitting against Marcos Maidana, deliberately butting Floyd Mayweather), its going to be tough for many fans to ever trust or believe in the southpaw again. We'll never know whether or not Ortiz, spitting blood, could have carried on for the last three rounds last night, but in past history, the great ones have battled through such an injury (think Ali against Norton for a famous example). Ortiz, even if he can come again, will never be called a great..

Smiling after losing the fight - as well as saying bye bye to a massive payday of a fight with Canelo Alvarez - Ortiz, as was the case after throwing it all away vs. Maidana and Mayweather, simply didn't appear to care. And that's the problem: if Ortiz doesn't care, why would/should the money-paying fans?

Anyway, enough about last night's loser; winner Lopez deserves a ton of credit. As tough and as game as they come, the Riverside warrior made the absolute most of the opportunity that came his way due to Andre Berto failing a drugs test. Lopez can enjoy his victory and, after his own facial injuries have healed, he can look forward to bigger fights and maybe also bigger paydays.

Meanwhile, the search begins anew for Canelo's September 15th dance partner.

heyzel · Jun 24, 2012

Schaefer says there’s a “wildcard opponent” that could be facing Saul Alvarez next
June 24th, 2012

By Dan Ambrose: Now that Victor Ortiz has ruined his chance at a fight against Saul Alvarez by quitting on his stool last night in Los Angeles in his loss to Josesito Lopez, Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer is trying his best to salvage a September 15th pay-per-view bout headlined by one of his newest starts WBC junior middleweight champion Saul Alvarez.

Schaefer told RingTV that he still wants the fight to a PPV bout, but that they’re going to need to find a big enough name for the bout to be worthy of being a fight that boxing fans will pay for. If they can’t find a big name, Schaefer will move the Alvarez fight to a non-PPV bout on Showtime.

The names mentioned as possible opponents for Alvarez are less than PPV worthy, however. The names are as follows: Cornelius Bundrage, Josesito Lopez, Carlos Quintana, Austin Trout and Vanes Martirosyan. None of them would interest casual boxing fans in big numbers to watch Alvarez fight despite both Trout and Martirosyan having unbeaten records, albeit against no name opposition.

Schaefer says he does have one “Wildcard” opponent that he’s trying to sign on for the Alvarez fight, and if he can get this fighter then he’ll go ahead and put the fight on PPV. Obviously it isn’t any of the aforementioned names because boxing fans won’t buy a bout between Alvarez and any of those guys. They’d be lucky to get 50,000 PPV buys if Alvarez faces ay of them.

The only fighter I can think of is Miguel Cotto, because there aren’t any big names in the junior middleweight division besides him, and Golden Boy isn’t going to let Alvarez face a middleweight. There isn’t anyone at welterweight that can fight Alvarez that boxing fans would be eager to see. Floyd Mayweather Jr. won’t be available and Amir Khan would never moved up two divisions and face a puncher like Alvarez.

CZAR · Jun 24, 2012

HERESY said:

2-0-Sixx said:

I would figure it would be Chavez Jr. also especially because of his father. Canelo will probably pass him again though after Martinez beats his ass though lol. Got Em!!

heyzel said:

Yes Showtime easily has the best announcers and good mix to. Bernstein has great knowledge and calls fight unbiasedly and Gus is the exciting announcer and when Tarver is there he has the balance of both knowledge and excitement. HBO needs to learn from them. Lampley is pathetic when it comes to announcing fights and shows his biasness way to easy. Got Em!!

2-0-Sixx said:

U think Kirkland is big enough to still have the fight on PPV? Got Em!!

JLMACN said:

It was the better PPV draw even before last night in my eyes. Got Em!!

heyzel said:

It should be Cotto. I dont know why he wouldnt be available? If not Lopez if he doesnt mind the weight should get the opportunity but of course it wouldnt be a PPV fight but should still draw nice ratings on Showtime based off his performance against Ortiz. Got Em!!

2-0-Sixx · Jun 24, 2012

I don't know how successful the ppv would be, but a lot of people know who kirkland is and they know he comes to fight.

its too bad tarver was commentating last night I'm sure he would have brought up the fact that he broke his jaw in a fight and finished.

HERESY · Jun 24, 2012

Find the numbers for their last couple of fights and compare what they did in tv ratings in Mexico.

2-0-Sixx · Jun 24, 2012

Canelo has had bigger numbers in Mexico, chavez has had bigger numbers on hbo.

heyzel · Jun 24, 2012

Exclusive Interview With "Fast" Eddie Chambers - "I Want To Get Right Back In There"

Eddie ChambersBy James Slater - Philly's Eddie Chambers had to fight tough Pole Tomasz Adamek without the use of his left arm in last Saturday's important heavyweight clash, Chambers injuring his jab hand in the early going of the 12-rounder he ultimately lost by wide UD (a number of fans and experts had the fight much closer than the three judges).

Eddie, now 39-3(18) is currently and understandably downbeat right now, yet he was still kind enough to speak with ESB yesterday evening. Encouragingly, the slick contender says he plans to "get right back in there" once his arm has healed up.

Here is what Chambers had to say:

j.s. thanks for talking to ESB, Eddie. First of all, how is your arm?

E.c. well, its ok, not as great as I was hoping - I'm still waiting for the MRI actually. I've seen my family doctor, and he says the arm has a significant tear. We'll see in time how the healing process goes..

J.s. Have you watched a tape of the fight, and do you think you won?

E.c. Yeah. Initially, I was sure it was a close fight and whenever you leave it in the hands of the judges, you never know what weird scores they might turn in. Now that I've watched it, I'm certain it was a horrible decision. I controlled the action, and when a guy (Adamek) throws like a hundred punches but only lands one, and the other guy (Chambers) throws ten and lands all ten, who should win the round?

j.s. You feel you were the victim of a bad decision? And there have been some bad ones just lately.

E.c. It was ridiculous really, yes. Even with my (arm) handicapp, I dictated the action. One card in particular really bothered me, that 119-109 card. I mean, I won just one round! That was ridiculous. I landed the cleaner, harder more showy punches.

J.s. What are you hoping to do in the near future, Eddie?

E.c. I'll see where my stock has gone. TV are still interested in showing my fights, definitely. I just want to get right back in there, and be as active as I can. But I need fights that mean something, with something at stake. At age 30, 31 next year - even though I feel like I'm in my early twenties - I can't waste time on less than big, important fights. I'm still excited, there's a lot to look forward to, even after this painful loss and a bad decision.

J.s. You came in at a low 202-pounds for the Adamek fight. I know people have asked you this before, but would a move down to cruiserweight interest you?

E.c. It's not totally out of the picture, and there are some great fights down there. (laughs) I'd probably make more money down there. Maybe I could drop down, get some big wins and improve my ranking, and then come back up.

j.s. How highly do you rate Adamek and his chances of winning a belt at heavyweight?

E.c. Like I said to people who listen, he's not a boxer - he's a tough, tough guy. But whenever he faces a real boxer such as myself, and Chad Dawson or Jonathan Banks, his deficiencies show really badly. His speed is not what I thought it was, but I still do think he's a good fighter. He makes up for things with his ton of determination and his sheer aggression. He throws a major number of shots. But like I say, skills win fights 90-percent of the time. It's just that the judges didn't see it that way this time.

j.s. You'd love a rematch with him?

E.c. I would love it, but it's not gonna happen. Any bad decision makes you wonder, but I fought Adamek in New Jersey, which is like a little Poland! There is a huge Polish population there. And he's a moneymaker. He's a huge draw, even when he fights against lesser names. He's too valuable to lose. Me? Why would I be given a decision over him? I knew my only chance was to KO him. I hoped it wouldn't be that way, but with one arm - I had to lose! That's just the way it is. But I hope this bad decision loss raises my stock, and makes the fans want to see more of me.

j.s. I certainly do, Eddie. You're still one of the best heavyweights in the world, the fastest, cleverest boxer at heavyweight.

E.c. Thank you. And thanks for having me on. I like to put my side of the story across.

heyzel · Jun 24, 2012

Mikey Garcia questions Ortiz’s jaw injury, thinks he found a way out of his fight against Lopez
June 24th, 2012

By Allan Fox: Unbeaten featherweight contender Mikey Garcia, the younger brother of Victor Ortiz’s trainer Danny Garcia, thinks that Ortiz found an excuse to get out of his fight against Josesito Lopez last Saturday night at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, California. Garcia questions whether Ortiz actually broke his jaw.

Ortiz lost the fight against Lopez after quitting following the end of the 9th round, complaining of a jaw injury.

Mikey Garcia said to examiner.com writer Chris Robinson “I’ve seen fighters with broken jaws; Malignaggi, Arthur Abraham, and local fighters from the areas. I think he [Ortiz] was just coming up with an excuse to stop the fight. Maybe he thought ‘That’s it, I’m not made for this sport.’ That was his way out.”

It was kind of weird the way that Ortiz’s jaw didn’t swell up like many people who suffer broken jaws. If you look at Muhammad Ali and Arthur Abraham for example; their jaws were badly swollen after they suffered broken jaws. You can’t say the same about Ortiz. It just looked like he couldn’t close his mouth.

Ortiz didn’t want to continue fighting due to the pain at the end of the 9th round. You could see Ortiz’s trainer Danny Garcia speaking to him, and it’s unclear whether he was trying to persuade Ortiz to continue fighting or what. The next you know it, Ortiz stood up and removed the towels that had been draped around his shoulders, and told the referee that he didn’t want to continue fighting.

The sad part about all of this was that Ortiz had a sizable lead, and would have likely won the fight without any problems if he had just stayed on his feet for the final three rounds. Ortiz wouldn’t have had to do much to get the win, and he could have moved forward to a September 15th fight with WBC junior middleweight champion Saul Alvarez that would have guaranteed Ortiz a huge payday, perhaps as much as $1 million dollars.

If Ortiz does have a broken jaw, it’s going to take him a considerable amount of time for the injury to heal. Once it does heal, he needs to consider fighting Lopez again so that he can prove that the loss was a fluke thing related only to his jaw injury.

2-0-Sixx · Jun 24, 2012

Lara: Show Me You Have Cojones
Canelo, Fight Me!

By Osman Rodriguez
Junior middleweight Erislandy Lara (16-1-1,
11KOs) wants the opportunity to fight WBC
champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (40-0-1,
29KOs) on September 15th at the MGM Grand
in Las Vegas.

Alvarez was scheduled to fight Victor Ortiz, who
suffered an upset loss and a broken jaw to
Josesito Lopez on Saturday night. Ortiz joins a
list, which includes Paul Williams and James
Kirkland, of fighters who were scheduled to fight
Canelo and due to unforseen circumstances
they were withdrawn from the slot.

Lara confirmed he is not one of the boxers
being considered to replace Ortiz. Some of the
boxers in the running to face Canelo include
former champion Carlos Quintana and
undefeated WBA "regular" 154-pound
champion Austin Trout.

"Chavez Jr. is man enough to fight Martinez,
now show the world you're a man. They say
Mexicans are macho so let's lock and load,
unless Chavez has more cojones than you," Lara
said. "We both have the same promoter there is
no excuse now. Golden Boy is about putting on
the best possible fights and that's Me vs. Canelo
- not these blown up
recycled welterweights."

Lara returns on June 30th to fight Freddy
Hernandez (30-2, 20KOs) at Fantasy Springs
Casino in Indio, California.

heyzel · Jun 25, 2012

Amir Khan: "I would love to fight Lamont Peterson again if he is off steroids, but if he is still on them he is a threat to my career and my life"

by Jenna J- On the Ropes Boxing Radio featured an exclusive interview with former WBA/IBF Light Welterweight champion Amir Khan (26-2, 18KOs) who is set to face Danny Garcia (23-0, 14KOs) on July 14th. Amir spoke on a variety of topics including his upcoming title fight, Lamont Peterson's positive drug test, if he would have any interest in a rematch with Peterson, rumors of a possible fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr and whether of not this is his last fight at 140lbs. Here is what Amir has to say.

Thoughts on his upcoming fight with Danny Garcia:

"We expect another tough fight, I've had some great wins in Las Vegas, beaten Maidana, beaten Zab Judah for ibf, so make this the third one against Danny Garcia. Danny Garcia brings a lot to the table really, he unbeaten, he has the WBC title, and I think when a fighters unbeaten he has a lot of confidence, and I'm sure he does not want to taste to defeat, so at the end of the day we are going to train hard, cause I have tasted defeat before and I don't want to taste defeat again"

Regarding Lamont Peterson's positive test and whether he believes he should be given back the belts he lost in December :

"Well basically Lamont Peterson is a cheat! We knew from day one that there was something there that I have never seen before, in the fight against me he was coming forward, and have never seen him come forward so much and be so aggressive and take so many shots and come back from them being put down twice in first round and him using his head and everything, it was a tough fight! "I knew there was something wrong in that fight and I'm glad that the Nevada commission, anti doping caught him and is cleaning up the sport of boxing. About the titles, I'll leave to the commission, the boxing board if they want to restate me or put it in the next fight, but I think they should restate me as champion."

If he would still be interested in having a rematch with Lamont Peterson:

"Ya! I would like to cause at the end of the day is was a great fight, a great fight for the fans. I would love to fight Lamont Peterson again if he is off steroids, but if he is still on them he is a threat to my career and my life. Other then that if it's going to be fair and he's not going to take anything, it was be an easy win for us. I think that's what kept him in the fight so long, cause if he was not on anything I think I would of stopped him in a couple of rounds, cause it shows that it helps an opponent when you take banned substances.

His view on why a rematch with Presis Prescott never happened

"HBO would not buy the fight, also sky TV in the UK did not want it and TV pays the big money, so It does not makes sense for me to fight him, because there is no money in the fight, don't get me wrong I'd love to take the fight on, because I'd like to settle the score, but at the end of the day boxing is a business, if you're not going to pay me then I don't think I should go in there really"

On Rumors of a possible fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr:

"Ya, In the world of boxing there are very few names that can sell tickets and can get big TV viewing figures now, and I'm sure Mayweather is already talking about fighting me, so ya, definitely, it's about timing in this game and Mayweather has shown in his last fight that he's getting caught more, his feet have slowed down a lot , his defense is not like it use to be, his upper body, lateral movement is not the same anymore, but you can't take anything away from his cause he's a great fighter.

Cotto was maybe on his A game for that fight, Cotto boxed really well, so you can't say that mayweather did not box well, Cotto boxing amazingly that's why he caught he caught Mayweather with some great shots. " I would love to take that fight against Mayweather one day, its an ambition of mine to fight the best out there, just like every fighter's ambition to fight the best, my ambition is to fight Mayweather!."

On If this will be his last fight at 140lb and his prediction for upcoming bout with Danny Garcia

"Ya, this will be the last fight at 140lbs, then we will move on to bigger and better things. Prediction, I never go into a fight wanting to knock someone out, or believing I'm going to knock someone out in this round, but I really believe I'm going to knockout Danny Garcia"

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heyzel · Jun 25, 2012

Garcia says Ortiz may have suffered the broken jaw in the 5th or 6th round
June 25th, 2012

(Photo: Naoki Fakuda) By Allan Fox: Contrary to what some boxing fans have been saying about Victor Ortiz having suffered a broken jaw in the 9th round last Saturday night in Ortiz’s 9th round TKO loss to Josesito Lopez, trainer Danny Garcia says that Ortiz told him that he broke it in either the 5th or 6th round, and not the 9th.

Garcia said to RingTV “In the 5th or 6th round, he [Ortiz] got a good shot to the chin. He told me that ‘I think I got a good shot in the chin, and he hurt me pretty good.’ He said that he thought his jaw was broken.”

Well there goes the idea that Ortiz suffered the injury in the 9th. It looks a lot better that Ortiz fought on with the injury for three rounds rather than suddenly suffering the injury in the 9th and immediately calling it quits after the round had ended.

Garcia says he convinced Ortiz to fight on for another three rounds to see if the condition would improve. It obviously worsened to the point where Ortiz could no longer take the pain of the jaw injury and decided to quit in the 9th.

Richard Schaefer, Ortiz’s promoter from Golden Boy Promotions, told RingTV that he wished that Ortiz’s corner had stopped it earlier in order not to risk Ortiz getting injured even more. Garcia said he saw his fighter in control of the fight and he instructed him to use his jab to box. That worked for a while until Lopez began to land a significant amount of shots in the 7th, 8th and 9th rounds that worsened Ortiz’s condition.

heyzel · Jun 25, 2012

Ortiz hospitalized, awaiting surgery on injured jaw
June 25th, 2012

By Eric Thomas: Former WBC welterweight champion Victor Ortiz is reportedly hospitalized tonight at the Cedars Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, awaiting surgery for a broken jaw received in his 9th round TKO loss to Josesito Lopez last Saturday night/

Ortiz’s manager Rolando Arellano said this to RingTV about Ortiz’s jaw injury: “It’s a broken jaw and he has bleeding internally inside of his mouth, so they have go in there and repair the breaks. Victor is in good spirits, other than his mouth. He’s on medication.”

Ortiz’s broken just must be a fairly bad one, because only the serious injuries of this kind require surgery. What they typically do is go and realign the fractures pieces of a fighter’s jaw by using wire and/or screws and metal plates to keep it together. In this case, it appears that bone fragments from Ortiz’s broken jaw may have torn a hole or a series of holes in Ortiz’s skin, causing bleeding inside of his mouth.

It’s going to take at a minimum eight weeks for Ortiz’s jaw to heal from the surgery and it’ll likely be a lot longer than that before Ortiz will be ready to get back in the ring again. He’s going to need a considerable amount of time off so that he doesn’t risk re-injuring his broken jaw.

In the future, Ortiz will have to learn to cover up better and keep his mouth closed while fighting. I noticed in watching Ortiz’s fight last Saturday that he had a habit of opening his mouth when fighting. As a fighter, you can’t do this a lot without risking suffering a jaw injury like the one Ortiz reportedly suffered.

JLMACN · Jun 25, 2012

heyzel said:

Garcia says Ortiz may have suffered the broken jaw in the 5th or 6th round
June 25th, 2012

(Photo: Naoki Fakuda) By Allan Fox: Contrary to what some boxing fans have been saying about Victor Ortiz having suffered a broken jaw in the 9th round last Saturday night in Ortiz’s 9th round TKO loss to Josesito Lopez, trainer Danny Garcia says that Ortiz told him that he broke it in either the 5th or 6th round, and not the 9th.

Garcia said to RingTV “In the 5th or 6th round, he [Ortiz] got a good shot to the chin. He told me that ‘I think I got a good shot in the chin, and he hurt me pretty good.’ He said that he thought his jaw was broken.”

Well there goes the idea that Ortiz suffered the injury in the 9th. It looks a lot better that Ortiz fought on with the injury for three rounds rather than suddenly suffering the injury in the 9th and immediately calling it quits after the round had ended.

Garcia says he convinced Ortiz to fight on for another three rounds to see if the condition would improve. It obviously worsened to the point where Ortiz could no longer take the pain of the jaw injury and decided to quit in the 9th.

Richard Schaefer, Ortiz’s promoter from Golden Boy Promotions, told RingTV that he wished that Ortiz’s corner had stopped it earlier in order not to risk Ortiz getting injured even more. Garcia said he saw his fighter in control of the fight and he instructed him to use his jab to box. That worked for a while until Lopez began to land a significant amount of shots in the 7th, 8th and 9th rounds that worsened Ortiz’s condition.

well if that is true than he has a little more heart than initially thought.....

Does this give him credit for having a strong chin??

:ermm:

JLMACN · Jun 25, 2012

This cat Victor Ortiz is on KC radio right now........

sounds like he is talking through his teeth.....

Sounds like 50cent.......LOL

IronLungs420 · Jun 25, 2012

2-0-Sixx said:

Lara: Show Me You Have Cojones
Canelo, Fight Me!

By Osman Rodriguez
Junior middleweight Erislandy Lara (16-1-1,
11KOs) wants the opportunity to fight WBC
champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (40-0-1,
29KOs) on September 15th at the MGM Grand
in Las Vegas.

Alvarez was scheduled to fight Victor Ortiz, who
suffered an upset loss and a broken jaw to
Josesito Lopez on Saturday night. Ortiz joins a
list, which includes Paul Williams and James
Kirkland, of fighters who were scheduled to fight
Canelo and due to unforseen circumstances
they were withdrawn from the slot.

Lara confirmed he is not one of the boxers
being considered to replace Ortiz. Some of the
boxers in the running to face Canelo include
former champion Carlos Quintana and
undefeated WBA "regular" 154-pound
champion Austin Trout.

"Chavez Jr. is man enough to fight Martinez,
now show the world you're a man. They say
Mexicans are macho so let's lock and load,
unless Chavez has more cojones than you," Lara
said. "We both have the same promoter there is
no excuse now. Golden Boy is about putting on
the best possible fights and that's Me vs. Canelo
- not these blown up
recycled welterweights."

Lara returns on June 30th to fight Freddy
Hernandez (30-2, 20KOs) at Fantasy Springs
Casino in Indio, California.

LOL @ this cuban faggot

Tony · Jun 25, 2012

I had Lopez winning the Ortiz fight. I had it scored 5-3-1 after 9 rounds.

Ortiz's jaw was broken. He was drooling blood and couldn't even close his mouth.

Give Lopez a shot against Canelo.

CZAR · Jun 25, 2012

Tony said:

U are the only one who had Lopez winning. No way was he winning that fight! Also Lopez is way to small to fight Canelo. He would get destroyed. Got Em!!

WYNO707X4 · Jun 25, 2012

Just make cotto vs canelo

T-Rip · Jun 25, 2012

^^^ I think De La Hoya to scared to make that fight

Lamberto Quintero · Jun 25, 2012

Pretty much...I dont want to see canelo fight anyone not named cotto, martinez or chavez. Cotto is the one whose free to fight in sept...

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