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May 13, 2002
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I think glen johnson win this fight in a ud
Bute by Dec.
Tough fight though.
Johnson looked like he slowed down a bit against froch. Bute should do alright if johnson fades as the rounds go on but if he doesn't then he could have an Adrade flashback (where he got KO'd in the 12th but somehow won the fight).
 
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marquez looks fucken ready.i think marquez going to weigh in at 140 so he could have some speed and be lighter on his feet and i think manny is going be under 144 on weigh in for the same reason.... this fight going to be good cant wait both fighters going to weight about the same fight night.....i think manny the lighter he gets to 140 the better he is. i think 145 against mosley was to much for manny thats why had cramps and didnt look that sharp and i think they did that to absorb a mosley punch better....against floyd that wont be a problem manny going to be jumping side side cuz he knows floyd wont drop him he going to be a uzi
 
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^^I agree on them both coming in light. Marquez shouldn't give away any speed for weight. He's never going to KO pacquiao anyway, his game needs to be sharp and accurate with those counters to win rounds.

I also think manny is better at the lighter weights. When he's closer to 147 he's just not as fast/poweful. 140-142 is perfect for him imo.
 
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This isn't gonna look good for Johnson. Johnson's conditioning can't keep up with his style of fighting these days and Bute makes his money to the ribs. I really wouldn't be surprised to see Johnson get stopped in this one, even though people don't see to think much of Bute.
 
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Donaire-Narvarez: Top Rank Working Hard To Finalize

By Ronnie Nathanielsz

Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum advised BoxingScene.com/Inquirer that his people were working hard to finalize a fight between WBC/WBO bantamweight champion Nonito Donaire and Omar Narvaez, the WBO's super flyweight champ, at the Home Depot in Carson City, California on October 22. Narvaez, a 36 year old Argentine southpaw, has a record of 35-0-2 with 19 knockouts.

Narvaez won the vacant WBO super flyweight title with a twelve round unanimous decision over Nicaragua’s Everth Briceno on May 15, 2010 and successfully defended the title against William Urina of Colombia with a unanimous twelve round decision last June 11.

Narvaez previously held the WBO flyweight title which he won also via a twelve round unanimous decision over Adonis Rivas on July 13, 2002 and made 17 successful defenses before moving up in weight.

Among those he beat were Filipino Rexon Flores on August 5, 2006 and Panama’s Carlos Tamara on January 25, 2008 both by twelve round unanimous decisions. He recently beat the very respected Puerto Rican prospect Cesar Seda Jr.
 
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Jhonny Gonzalez To Defend WBC Featherweight Title Vs. Rogers Mtagwa - Sept.14th In El

By James Slater: A potentially exciting title clash will take place in El Paso, Texas on September the 14th, as Mexican warrior Jhonny Gonzalez will defend his World Boxing Coincil (WBC) 126-pound title against Tanzanian tough guy Rogers Mtagwa. The fight will be promoted by Goossen Tutor.

29-year-old Gonzalez (who saw his first name misspelt on a fight poster early on in his career and decided to keep it as it was ever since), will be making the second defence of his crown. A former WBO super-bantamweight champ as well as a former WBC 122-pound title challenger, Gonzalez seems to have been around forever. A pro since 1999 (he lost his first two pro outings), Jhonny has picked up a ton of experience.

Over the years, Gonzalez has given us some great action fights - against the likes of Israel Vazquez (L TKO10), Fernando Montiel (WS12) and Gerry Penalosa (L TKO7). After a fairly quick TKO loss to Japan’s excellent Toshiaka Nishioka in a failed WBC super-bantam challenge (TKO by3), Gonzalez moved up to featherweight and he has not lost since. Enjoying a new lease of life, the man from Mexico City captured the WBC belt with a 4th-round TKO win over another Japanese fighter, in Hozumi Hasegawa, in Japan, back in April.

Since then Gonzalez has retained once (a 4th-round stoppage of Tomas Villa) and now he is no doubt looking forward to a rumble with Mtagwa - the fighter who gave then WBO super-bantam champ Juanma Lopez such a fierce war in October of 2009.

Since that surprisingly competitive fight (one that Mtagwa came close to winning), the 32-year-old with the ordinary-looking, but deceiving 27-14-2(19) record has been blown away by Yuriorkis Gamboa inside a couple of rounds (in a WBA featherweight title challenge) and he has won a tune-up type affair against the 26-12 Pedro Navarrete - an 8th-round TKO win earlier this month. How much does Mtagwa have left to offer today?

The Gamboa blow-out aside, Mtagwa has shown a pretty good chin. Orlando Salido stopped him in the 5th back in 2006 and before that Rogers was halted by Valdemir Pereira (8th-round TKO back in 2004). Aside from those three losses, Mtagwa has picked up some close, debatable points defeats, a number of them coming in his early days.

If he has another great fight left in him similar to the kind he gave Lopez, Gonzalez could be in for a rough night. But that Gamboa loss did make Mtagwa look like a faded, perhaps even finished fighter. How will his punch resistance hold up against the 49-7(43) Gonzalez? Will Mtagwa be able to cope with the champion’s vicious body work?

Mtagwa can punch some himself of course, and in the Lopez fight (really his finest hour, despite losing) he kept coming and coming. But that incredible effort took a lot out of him; the question is did it take everything out of him?

Mtagwa knows this is his last big chance and he will try and make the most of it. Gonzalez is in no mood to give up his belt as he seeks greater paydays. We may well get a good idea of how this one will go as soon as Gonzalez tags his challenger with a good shot. If Mtagwa’s chin holds up, the war will be on!

I go for Gonzalez to win an exciting fire-fight via a middle-rounds stoppage.
 
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Sturm lowballs Macklin offer to return to scene of the crime - Demands 40% of Macklin

Sturm lowballs Macklin offer to return to scene of the crime - Demands 40% of Macklin’s Future Earnings if Macklin Wins

Matthew Macklin emerged on the wrong side of a highly controversial split decision when he challenged for Felix Sturm's WBA world middleweight title in Cologne on June 25. Former undisputed heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis, who was covering the fight for EPIX, a U.S. television channel, said that the decision was a "highway robbery" and one of the worst decisions he had ever seen while a viewers poll on the website of German TV network SAT.1 spoke volumes with 76% of Germans polled believing that Macklin had won the fight as opposed to just 24% for Sturm..

Since the fight, Sturm has repeatedly claimed that a contract for the rematch has been sent to Macklin and he has accused his Irish rival of ducking out of a possible return bout. Sturm's own promotional company even went so far as to design a poster for a proposed rematch in Cologne in November. However, Macklin has yet to see any contract for the rematch and believes that the whole exercise is a publicity stunt designed to make it look like Sturm is pursuing the rematch when in reality the German wants no part of it.

"After the fight I felt it was important to stay dignified and not whine or moan about the decision. It was a blatant robbery and everyone saw that so I let other people have their say on the decision and some of the world’s most respected boxing people all registered their disgust. The decision spoke for itself so I didn’t really need to say anything.

"I don't believe in negotiating in public either, I think it's unprofessional but obviously Felix has made certain statements that I feel have to be corrected. For example, time and time again he has claimed in the media that we were sent a contract for the rematch within a couple of days of the fight. It's now been over seven weeks since the fight and we have yet to see any contract for a rematch. My manager Brian Peters has had talks with them and there has been some emails back and forth but no sign of any contract.

"The terms they spoke about were a joke, they were only willing to pay me a marginally bigger purse then for the first fight but the options they wanted on my future fights were ridiculous. When I beat Felix in the rematch they wanted 40% of my earnings over the next two years. It was crazy stuff and to me it just looked like Felix only wanted the rematch if he could use it as a "cash out" fight to see him into retirement and then use me as his pension fund for the next couple of years."

Macklin recently signed a lucrative promotional contract with New York-based promoter Lou DiBella, of DiBella Entertainment, who also promotes Sergio Martinez, the man universally recognized as the best middleweight in the world and a clash with the Argentinean is now very much on his radar.

"For Sturm to name call and diminish a fighter who kicked his ass on home soil is disgraceful," said DiBella. "He lost and he knows that he as champion needs the rematch for his legacy. A real champion would fight the fight on neutral ground under fair terms. Felix has spent many years conducting himself as a true champion; act like it now."

"As it stands the plan is to pursue a fight with Martinez for St. Patrick's weekend in Madison Square Garden next year, but if Sturm's people were to actually come back with a realistic offer then I would definitely want the Sturm rematch," said Macklin. "Why wouldn't I? It would mean me getting my hands on the WBA title before the end of the year and make a clash with Martinez next year even bigger because it would be a unification fight.

"The Sturm rematch would be massive in Germany. I've been told from sources close to Felix that the first fight generated just under five million euros in revenue. That's serious money and the rematch would be even bigger. I'm not even looking for a 50/50 split to go back to his hometown and face the same obstacles all over again in terms of getting a fair decision, but the terms they are talking about are comical and insulting.

"I know what I'm going to be up against going out there again, I saw the scorecards afterwards and one judge gave Felix five of the first six rounds! I don't think even the most biased Sturm fan could have given him more than a single round in the first half of the fight.

"If he really wants the fight then why doesn't he put in a serious offer in a contract instead of spending his time moaning in the media, calling me a dirty fighter and a coward. The bottom line is Felix promotes himself so if he genuinely wants to make the fight as badly as he says he does then he can make it very, very easily.

"Alternatively, now that I'm promoted by Lou, if Sturm is really serious about setting the record straight why doesn't he leave the scene of the crime and fight me in New York with neutral officials and prove that he is a true champion
 
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Hell yeah! This is going to be an insanely underrated fight. I think it will be nonstop action. If Pascal wins, likely he would get a rematch with Chad Dawson (if he wins or loses against bhop). If Cloud wins he could get a crack at the Dawson-Hopkins winner.


Jean Pascal vs Tavoris Cloud is almost done



http://www.rds.ca/boxe/chroniques/324773.html



Yvon Michel, Pascal's promoter, is currently in negociations with Don King, and things are going very well says Michel.

Cloud is interested in coming to Quebec to stage the fight.

Et je ne peux malheureusement pas en dire autant de Cloud. À part Glen Johnson, il n’a battu personne. Il est champion de l’IBF, mais il n’a pas la notoriété et surtout la popularité de Jean. »

Michel : "Aside of Johnson, Cloud hasn't beaten anybody. He is the IBF champion, but he is not as notorous and popular as Pascal."


 
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I have never heard of anyone claiming royalties for a win. That should really be a conflict of interest in the fight itself, preventing Sturm from even wanting to win. I don't see it as any different than betting on yourself to lose.

I don't know if commissions or boards get involved in contract negotiations but that doesn't seem legit at all.
 
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Joe Louis is the first name that pops into my head when he got a heavyweight shot he had to pay royalties for years.

Don King and other promoters, all though I don't hear about it as much lately, do sometimes get royalties on other fights for an X amount of time if certain contracts are made. Shit like that shouldn't be legal but I guess it is. Example, if someone wants to fight a don king fighter really bad, King could say sure, but I have options on your next two fights (meaning he'll get a small cut). Shady shit, but it happens.

Sturm though, lol for the next 2 years? really?
 
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I understand the promoter himself getting an earn-out if their fighter loses because they are the ones investing in it. The promoter would be crazy to risk the exposure of having his fighter throw a fight for an earn-out. The fighter itself though, that just doesn't seem right to me.

Whatever though. What a lack luster fight, knowing the fighter wins even if he loses.
 
Aug 31, 2003
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Joe Louis was an entirely different situation than this. Louis and his manager agreed to that stipulation from Braddock's people because they already struggled badly to get a title shot and no one was giving them a look. Braddock knew what he was and didn't wanna be there anymore and that was his way out without fighting.

This is just ridiculous..
 
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Mayweather takes shot at Pacquiao and Khan

By Chris Williams: Unbeaten Floyd Mayweather Jr. got in a shot at his pursuers Amir Khan and Manny Pacquiao at the same time, saying this about his September 17th opponent WBC welterweight champion Victor Ortiz “He’s the best out there,” according to ESPN.

How true. I rate Ortiz as a better fighter than both Khan and Pacquiao, and the reason I do is because he’s bigger, more rugged, nearly as fast and with better power.

Mayweather has chosen wisely in taking on the young 24-year-old Ortiz, because it’s an easier fight to put together, Mayweather can get a bigger purse split and there’s none of the hassle about the Olympic style blood testing.

Khan will likely be on board with the tests by the USADA, but Pacquiao’s promoter Bob Arum is saying that he wants the WADA to test Pacquiao while he’s training in the Philippines. That obviously isn’t going to work for putting a fight together with Mayweather.

But the most important thing is that Mayeather is choosing the best guy out there in selecting Ortiz. He may not be as popular as Pacquiao, but that doesn’t matter because I do agree with Mayweather that he’s better than anyone else he could pick.

If you match Ortiz up with any of Pacquiao’s previous opponents in the last three years, I see Ortiz beating them all. The same goes for Khan. Ortiz may have lost to Marcos Maidana by a stoppage defeat in 2009, but that was when Ortiz was only 22, and fighting at 140, which was too low for him. He’s bigger, stronger, older and wiser now.

I think he licks Maidana now if the fight were made. I’d like to see Ortiz face Maidana, Miguel Cotto, and Antonio Margarito in the future. I don’t think he’ll ever get a shot at Cotto and Margarito, though, because they fight for Top Rank, and it’s doubtful that their promoter Bob Arum would want Ortiz destroying his fighters.
 
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Breaking News: Robert Guerrero Out Of Marcos Maidana Fight With Shoulder Injury

By James Slater: In disappointing news, it has been reported on Ringtv.com that the upcoming Robert Guerrero-Marcos Maidana fight, set for August 27th, will have to be postponed due to the fact that Guerrero has suffered an apparent shoulder injury.

The newsflash on Ring Magazine’s official web site said: the extent and severity of Guerrero’s injured shoulder is not known, but the fighter was “on his way to get it medically checked.”

It is not yet known if the remainder of the card in San Jose, California (which was to have gone out on HBO) will also fail to go ahead as planned now that this unfortunate injury has occurred. The main support bout was to have been a heavyweight match-up between Seth Mitchell and Mike Mollo.

This bad news will come as a real disappointment to Guerrero fans. “The Ghost” looked so sensational last time out, when he battled Michael Katsidis; winning a wide, entertaining 12-round decision. The Maidana fight would have seen the talented 28-year-old make the move up to the talent-rich light-welterweight division. A former champ at featherweight, super-featherweight and, with the win over Katsidis (interim) lightweight, Guerrero, 29-1-1(18) may well have beaten Maidana and added the “regular” version of the WBA 140-pound title to his growing collection.

Hopefully the fight will be rearranged as soon as possible. In the meantime, will there be in any way enough time for HBO to find a late replacement for Maidana, so as to salvage the card?


damn I was looking forward to this fight
 
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“El Perro” Barks Again on Saturday Night

By German Villasenor

After the well-publicized signing of former WBO “interim” super welterweight champion, Alfredo “El Perro” Angulo, 19-1 (16), by Golden Boy Promotions and with little to no information regarding the announced Angulo fight scheduled for this Saturday night against one Joseph Gomez, 17-4-1 (8), many fans were wondering if the card is actually on. Wonder no longer, fans. It is.

Angulo, whose contract was bought from Angulo's previous promoter, Gary Shaw, by Golden Boy Promotions, will indeed see action this Saturday night in his homecoming return at the Nido Sport Center in Mexicali, Baja California.

It will be very interesting to see how much the forced 13-month layoff will affect the fighter, one who has always kept a busy schedule, previously averaging four fights a year.

The busy, hard-charging Angulo, who was on the cusp of stardom, will take on Bloomfield, New Mexico's Gomez in a scheduled 12-round middleweight bout.

The fight card was confirmed to be a go, as it only makes sense for Golden Boy to let the show continue. It gets their signee some much-needed rounds before they officially put him on one of their shows.

Getting hold of the show's promoter was an ordeal if anything but Tony Torres would inform Maxboxing.com that there were no problems on his end. The card was ready to go and he released the ticket price information along with the rest of the card's lineup, a total of nine fights including the main event.

Angulo, whose last fight was a blowout win over former 154-pound world champion Joachim Alcine in July 2010, will hopefully get some rounds in against Gomez, a fighter whose main opposition has included the likes of Elco Garcia, Jose Luis Cruz and Rudy Lovato.

Gomez been stopped three times in his last four fights and has been a middleweight for some time now. Gomez should be well-rested, as his last fight took place this past February.

Television availability is fuzzy at best thus far, with no clear word as to who will actually provide coverage. In Mexico, it is said that Televisa will telecast the show and other reports have ESPN Deportes and ESPN3.com providing the US broadcast.

Tickets range from 200 to 1500 pesos (about $20-$150, US).

Undercard Bouts

Francisco “Franky” Leal vs. Leopoldo “Feroz” Gonzalez, ten rounds, super bantamweights

Armando “Chato” Robles vs. Manuel “Pirry” Leyva, ten rounds, super lightweights

Cesar “Saba” Vazquez vs. Sergio “Micky” Lopez, eight rounds, super featherweights

Juan “Veneno” Romo vs. Vicente “Bufalo” Sandez, six rounds, heavyweights

Rafael “Rafa” Ortiz vs. Alex Alonso, six rounds, super welterweights

Victor Betancourt vs. Andres Ledesma, four rounds, featherweights

Francisco Pina vs. Enrique Flores, four rounds, featherweights

Jose Luis Alvarado vs. Liroy Zavala, four rounds, flyweights

Get there early, as the promoters expect a sell-out.